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« Reply #1600 on: January 14, 2010, 01:24:58 AM »

Tracygirl...you and I were typing the same thought at the same time. I think someone is trying to muddy the waters.

Yes and that someone has a WI connection.  It just really bothers me that this reporter is so "chummy" with Tammi when it's clear that Tammi and her husband are persons of interest and have no legal right to Gabriel.

Yep exactly what I thought too! Looks like we are all on the same page. Something is smelling a little rotten.

I am trying to find birth announcements in newspapers in WI. If these people are as excited as most are when adopting a baby they are blasting the information all around their local newspapers. There are only about 30 or so in WI.  If anyone has a few minutes can you check out what you can find? I am using newslink.org
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« Reply #1601 on: January 14, 2010, 01:29:14 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/
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« Reply #1602 on: January 14, 2010, 01:31:31 AM »

Tracygirl...you and I were typing the same thought at the same time. I think someone is trying to muddy the waters.

Yes and that someone has a WI connection.  It just really bothers me that this reporter is so "chummy" with Tammi when it's clear that Tammi and her husband are persons of interest and have no legal right to Gabriel.


Tammi and jack are acting like they are the parents.
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« Reply #1603 on: January 14, 2010, 01:35:26 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/

I can't make sense of this. Does it say she is still missing or she had been found?
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« Reply #1604 on: January 14, 2010, 01:38:06 AM »

Globan popularity for the name Gabriel.

•#3 in Brazil
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•#11 in Republic of Georgia
•#22 in Chile
•#24 in Belgium
•#24 in United States
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•#41 in Spain
•#42 in Sweden
•#43 in Austria
•#52 in Norway
•#84 in Australia (New South Wales)
•#91 in Australia (Victoria)
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•#147 in Scotland

Information from this site: http://www.babynamewizard.com/namipedia/boy/gabriel
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« Reply #1605 on: January 14, 2010, 01:41:04 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/

The area she used to live w/ex hubby is Chalmette, LA which was a devastated area of the state after Katrina. But I would thiink anyone knowing her would know she wasn't living in the state anymore. I dont know why anyone would inquire about her since she was either in Nashville or Arizona at that time. (good find!!)


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TAMMI FAY PETERS SMITH Mother's Name: JANIS S. COUVILLION Father's Name: ROBIN A. PETERS Sex: F Date of Birth: 3.12.1972 Place of Birth: PHOENIX,AZ.
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« Reply #1606 on: January 14, 2010, 01:41:49 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/

I can't make sense of this. Does it say she is still missing or she had been found?

tracygirl.. me either.  It seems to be listings of people missing.... but is not clear.
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« Reply #1607 on: January 14, 2010, 01:43:15 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/

I can't make sense of this. Does it say she is still missing or she had been found?
It would have been a missing post.
It was a site set up to find family after Katrina but it often was not updated (the status of the person)
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« Reply #1608 on: January 14, 2010, 01:43:34 AM »

Forgive me if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before.

Why would Tammi be listed on a Missing Person web site for Katrina. It is on the Katrina Aid page and was originally posted by.  wecaretexas.com

http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/

I can't make sense of this. Does it say she is still missing or she had been found?

I'm not sure what it means either. I'm wondering if she was trying to con some money from the Katrina aid fund.
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« Reply #1609 on: January 14, 2010, 01:44:20 AM »

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/missing_baby_011310

Friend Says Elizabeth Johnson Wants Baby Back
$5,000 reward for info on missing baby

Updated: Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 10:14 PM MST
Published : Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 12:28 PM MST

PHOENIX - More than three weeks after an Arizona baby disappeared in Texas, Crime Stoppers of San Antonio is offering a $5,000 reward for his safe return. Meanwhile, the mother is saying she wants her baby back.

The baby's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, is in a Phoenix jail. She's changing her tune -- once silent, she now says she wants baby Gabriel back.

In the latest twist, Johnson claims there is video to prove that Gabriel was handed off to a couple in Texas. Tammi Smith told FOX 10 that she visited Johnson in jail Wednesday, saying the FBI has the surveillance video. The FBI has not confirmed that.

"After two days of getting to know them, on the third day they came to her hotel. They stayed inside the hotel for a while, she held the baby while they talked and they finalized things. She felt very pressured and scared, scared that she might go to jail or those types of things and pressured because she knew they really wanted a baby," Tammi Smith told us. "She wants out of jail and she wants that baby back so she can get out of jail."

Another interesting twist in the story:  Before fleeing Arizona, Johnson filed a petition seeking paternity tests.  Both for 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson's father, Logan McQueary and another man, Craig Cherry.

There is an unusual connection between Cherry and the Scottsdale couple, Jack and Tammi Smith, who wanted to adopt Gabriel.

"Craig Cherry did not know Elizabeth, he is not the father of the child according to Craig.  And as a matter of fact Craig revealed to us that he is a blood relative of Tammy Smith," said Kim Hale of the Tempe Police Department.

Tempe police believe the Smiths have not told them everything they know about the missing boy.

Anyone with any information can call Crime Stoppers at 210-224-STOP (210-224-7867). Tips can also be submitted online.

Gabriel was last seen Dec. 26 in San Antonio.

Investigators say Elizabeth Johnson, drove there from her home in Tempe, stayed about a week, then took a bus to Florida without Gabriel. She was arrested Dec. 30 in Miami Beach and returned to Arizona to face kidnapping and child abuse charges.

On The Net: www.sacrimestoppers.com
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« Reply #1610 on: January 14, 2010, 01:47:00 AM »

Oh, I am sorry I just realized the page that this is posted on is "TAMMI'S KATRINA AID PAGE" (she's just helping everyone huh?)  with a cut and paste from the actual site that people used to find missing relatives. So she post her own info and she wasnt even missing?  Confused
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« Reply #1611 on: January 14, 2010, 01:49:24 AM »

Yea I don't think she will be getting the baby back, call me crazy but.....
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« Reply #1612 on: January 14, 2010, 01:49:52 AM »

Klaas, will you check your emails?
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« Reply #1613 on: January 14, 2010, 01:52:20 AM »

Oh, I am sorry I just realized the page that this is posted on is "TAMMI'S KATRINA AID PAGE" (she's just helping everyone huh?)  with a cut and paste from the actual site that people used to find missing relatives. So she post her own info and she wasnt even missing?  Confused

Ok you lost me on that one, what is the page?
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« Reply #1614 on: January 14, 2010, 01:54:12 AM »

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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/missing_baby_011310

Friend Says Elizabeth Johnson Wants Baby Back
$5,000 reward for info on missing baby

Updated: Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 10:14 PM MST
Published : Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 12:28 PM MST

PHOENIX - More than three weeks after an Arizona baby disappeared in Texas, Crime Stoppers of San Antonio is offering a $5,000 reward for his safe return. Meanwhile, the mother is saying she wants her baby back.

The baby's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, is in a Phoenix jail. She's changing her tune -- once silent, she now says she wants baby Gabriel back.

In the latest twist, Johnson claims there is video to prove that Gabriel was handed off to a couple in Texas. Tammi Smith told FOX 10 that she visited Johnson in jail Wednesday, saying the FBI has the surveillance video. The FBI has not confirmed that.

"After two days of getting to know them, on the third day they came to her hotel. They stayed inside the hotel for a while, she held the baby while they talked and they finalized things. She felt very pressured and scared, scared that she might go to jail or those types of things and pressured because she knew they really wanted a baby," Tammi Smith told us. "She wants out of jail and she wants that baby back so she can get out of jail




If she really wanted to adopt him out..why did she feel pressured. She said they were a very nice couple and she spent 3 days at their house. yep just another lie How do you finalize an adoption in a couple of hours?
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« Reply #1615 on: January 14, 2010, 01:54:50 AM »



http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2576139/missing_baby_gabriel_mom_extradited_pg2.html
 
On the same day, Tammi Smith friend Yami Virgin of KABB from Fox 29 told Tammi that the Garmin navigation system in Ms. Johnson's Oldsmobile had shown a signal in Victoria, Texas, which is 96 miles (156km) south of San Antonio. Surveillance video later showed Ms. Johnson in San Antonio— without baby Gabriel— boarding a bus bound for Daytona Florida, a distance of 1046 miles (1684km). Some authorities conclude that the baby boy is in Victoria. But was the Garmin found with the Oldsmobile or is it missing?
There are some inconsistant things in that article like "boarding a bus bound for Daytona Florida".
Of course there are alot of bad reporting in this case, IMO.
 Anyone know when or if it was stated when she was "seen" at Six Flags? They change the park hours in the fall and are now shut down till March according to the Six Flags San antonio website. I

I do not believe she was ever seen at Six Flags.  She was seen at a park by Six Flags which turned out to be Raymond Russell Park.

I know I never included any of this in that timeline I did. Just saved it as I was going to check out the reporter.

I only posted this for the name of the reporter friend that Tammi is suppose to have.  It is associatedcontent, someone wrote this from thier own opinion, there are many errors in the piece, it is used as filler for websites. But mostly it's wrong. Please stop analyzing the article. I posted it just for the name.

Eliza-Beth think someone gave some misinformation, just mean people everywhere.

Thanks Lillyfin for explaining what you meant in posting the article.  an angelic monkey
(I am easily confused.. )
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« Reply #1616 on: January 14, 2010, 01:57:28 AM »

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http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/missing_baby_011310

Friend Says Elizabeth Johnson Wants Baby Back
$5,000 reward for info on missing baby

Updated: Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 10:14 PM MST
Published : Wednesday, 13 Jan 2010, 12:28 PM MST

PHOENIX - More than three weeks after an Arizona baby disappeared in Texas, Crime Stoppers of San Antonio is offering a $5,000 reward for his safe return. Meanwhile, the mother is saying she wants her baby back.

The baby's mother, Elizabeth Johnson, is in a Phoenix jail. She's changing her tune -- once silent, she now says she wants baby Gabriel back.

In the latest twist, Johnson claims there is video to prove that Gabriel was handed off to a couple in Texas. Tammi Smith told FOX 10 that she visited Johnson in jail Wednesday, saying the FBI has the surveillance video. The FBI has not confirmed that.

"After two days of getting to know them, on the third day they came to her hotel. They stayed inside the hotel for a while, she held the baby while they talked and they finalized things. She felt very pressured and scared, scared that she might go to jail or those types of things and pressured because she knew they really wanted a baby," Tammi Smith told us. "She wants out of jail and she wants that baby back so she can get out of jail




If she really wanted to adopt him out..why did she feel pressured. She said they were a very nice couple and she spent 3 days at their house. yep just another lie How do you finalize an adoption in a couple of hours?

And why was she so happy over the phone with gramps? also why did she post the kiss my
@!ss suckaas on ther myspace?
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« Reply #1617 on: January 14, 2010, 02:02:38 AM »

Oh, I am sorry I just realized the page that this is posted on is "TAMMI'S KATRINA AID PAGE" (she's just helping everyone huh?)  with a cut and paste from the actual site that people used to find missing relatives. So she post her own info and she wasnt even missing?  Confused

Ok you lost me on that one, what is the page?

It is a webpage that Tammi set up (Tammis Katrina Aid)(http://tammi-smith.katrina.aidpage.com/tammi-smith/
 
and then she cut and pasted the post of her missing, from the Wecaretexas.com site.
 

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« Reply #1618 on: January 14, 2010, 02:11:11 AM »

Why on earth would she do that? How strange. From reading it you would think that the person is missing from Katrina. What was that Cherry guy arrested for? Now you don't think??? naw never mind I think I might need sleep.

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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2576139/missing_baby_gabriel_mom_extradited_pg2.html
 
On the same day, Tammi Smith friend Yami Virgin of KABB from Fox 29 told Tammi that the Garmin navigation system in Ms. Johnson's Oldsmobile had shown a signal in Victoria, Texas, which is 96 miles (156km) south of San Antonio. Surveillance video later showed Ms. Johnson in San Antonio— without baby Gabriel— boarding a bus bound for Daytona Florida, a distance of 1046 miles (1684km). Some authorities conclude that the baby boy is in Victoria. But was the Garmin found with the Oldsmobile or is it missing?
There are some inconsistant things in that article like "boarding a bus bound for Daytona Florida".
Of course there are alot of bad reporting in this case, IMO.
 Anyone know when or if it was stated when she was "seen" at Six Flags? They change the park hours in the fall and are now shut down till March according to the Six Flags San antonio website.

I do not believe she was ever seen at Six Flags.  She was seen at a park by Six Flags which turned out to be Raymond Russell Park.

I know I never included any of this in that timeline I did. Just saved it as I was going to check out the reporter.
I only posted this for the name of the reporter friend that Tammi is suppose to have.  It is associatedcontent, someone wrote this from thier own opinion, there are many errors in the piece, it is used as filler for websites. But mostly it's wrong. Please stop analyzing the article. I posted it just for the name.
Eliza-Beth think someone gave some misinformation, just mean people everywhere.

Thanks Lillyfin for explaining what you meant in posting the article.  an angelic monkey
(I am easily confused.. )

BBM
yes that was confusing, esp for those of us playing catch up on this case since it wasn't made clear that it was an article of misinformation and only posted for the name.

Northern Rose was only doing what monkeys do best, analyzing & sorting out wrong information & I appreciate that. 

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