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« Reply #260 on: January 06, 2010, 03:09:52 PM »

Lookee See ....what I found in her my space pics. This is one of her spas. Who knew enema's paid this much!
  And look at the name, Dolce. I think this bs is used for weight loss, I've been to several gastro doctors over the years, and not one of them suggested this.

lol Dolce jumped out  at me also....I know the hollywood crowd gets colon douches because I remember Carman Electria talking about it a few years ago on her reality show..she was getting one before her wedding day...sadly that marriage ended in divorce.
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« Reply #261 on: January 06, 2010, 03:09:56 PM »

First of all I've never heard of a Nationally Board Certified Colon Hydrotherapy Instructor, fancy way of saying enema. She must have a lucrative business since she has several shops. Does her husband do this also? Well, she does go to Mexico, whether it is on vacations, or for her business 

Jack is listed on the business and his image is on the business Myspace profile.  He used to play slide guitar for a band.  I have to go back to find it on Facebook. 

Jack used to play steel guitar with Country music legend Bill Anderson.  Sorry took me a while to find it.

I do have to admit after I had a colonoscopy...I felt good for a few  days more energy than I had in years guess being  full of crap boggs  one down Monkey Devil! Monkey Devil!.
I can't say I did after four colonoscopys  But for them to have all these shops and expensive home, a lot of people must really like getting this done.
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« Reply #262 on: January 06, 2010, 03:10:22 PM »

If paperwork is needed.  Someone could check any and all children for the past month that left the States for Mexico on that bus line.  I am sure they would use a different fake name.  Any child in that age group should be checked into.
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« Reply #263 on: January 06, 2010, 03:12:16 PM »

Is there a way to check on passports issued within a certain period of time?  Or any other documentation that the Bus Company would need to take people into Mexico?  With Gab being so young, I am sure someone would have to accompanied him on the bus?  Just brainstorming about the specualtion of what is needed to get into mexico.   If there is a way to check paperwork, perhaps more clues can then be persued.

Those are all great questions.  I am going to try to have google translate the Bus site and see if it says anything that makes sense.
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« Reply #264 on: January 06, 2010, 03:13:32 PM »

At 1:05pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Hi Jennifer, We are looking for a traditional Surrogacy. Are you up for that? We live in Arizona and have a 3 1/2 year old daughter. We adopted her at 4 months old. We want another child desperately and she realy wants a sibling. You can call us at (XXX-XXX-XXXX) or email me at info@healingwatersaz.com Thank you and God Bless, Tammi

At 11:58pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Would you like to send me your phone number so I can call you, or you can call me at (xxx-xxx-xxxx). And how does your boyfriend feel about this? Also, have you ever had any children before? Thanks so much, can't wait to talk over the phone!

At 12:59am on November 19, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Are you realy interested??? You can reach me at (xxx-xxx-xxxx). Or email me your phone #.....

At 10:25am on November 19, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Thanks Jennifer for getting back with me. We have a few surrogate's in mind, but I would like to talk to you as well, so as soon as you get a phone, please call me. Also, If you are willing to travel that would be awesome! You could live with us most of the pregnacy!

http://www.surrogatemother.com/profile/Jennifer91
  Tammi really wants a child desperately. Seems like she is fishing all over for a surrogate.
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« Reply #265 on: January 06, 2010, 03:15:42 PM »

If paperwork is needed.  Someone could check any and all children for the past month that left the States for Mexico on that bus line.  I am sure they would use a different fake name.  Any child in that age group should be checked into.
I think paperwork is needed, at least I think so, don't you have to have a passport to get into Mexico now? Problem is that is probably not checked like it should. If this is what happened, someone must remember a little blue eyed, blonde little boy.
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« Reply #266 on: January 06, 2010, 03:20:49 PM »

Northern I think Monkey with Class, posted a translated version a page back.
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« Reply #267 on: January 06, 2010, 03:22:03 PM »

CBS has posted an image gallery.  Most of the images of Gabriel are the same ones that Tammi has of him on her FB.  Tammi also called CBS yesterday to be there when they talked to Elizabeth from Jail.  Then the Smiths show up on GMA. Anyone else get the feeling that the Smith's have been paid handsomely for their photo rights?

Images 7,8,9 if you read the side caption are from the photos Logan submitted into court when Elizabeth trashed Gabriel's room.

http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2010/01/06/crimesider/photoessay6063007.shtml?tag=page
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« Reply #268 on: January 06, 2010, 03:22:54 PM »

At 1:05pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Hi Jennifer, We are looking for a traditional Surrogacy. Are you up for that? We live in Arizona and have a 3 1/2 year old daughter. We adopted her at 4 months old. We want another child desperately and she realy wants a sibling. You can call us at (XXX-XXX-XXXX) or email me at info@healingwatersaz.com Thank you and God Bless, Tammi

At 11:58pm on November 15, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Would you like to send me your phone number so I can call you, or you can call me at (xxx-xxx-xxxx). And how does your boyfriend feel about this? Also, have you ever had any children before? Thanks so much, can't wait to talk over the phone!

At 12:59am on November 19, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Are you realy interested??? You can reach me at (xxx-xxx-xxxx). Or email me your phone #.....

At 10:25am on November 19, 2008, Tammi Smith said… Thanks Jennifer for getting back with me. We have a few surrogate's in mind, but I would like to talk to you as well, so as soon as you get a phone, please call me. Also, If you are willing to travel that would be awesome! You could live with us most of the pregnacy!

http://www.surrogatemother.com/profile/Jennifer91
  Tammi really wto peoants a child desperately. Seems like she is fishing all over for a surrogate.


Maybe she sells babies ::MonkeyEek::could it be she gets babies and sells them to folks kinda like a blackmarket could answer for where the money comes from
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« Reply #269 on: January 06, 2010, 03:23:17 PM »

Just a thought here.  Do they really own the shops?  Or are they renting a space for services within the shop?  I know of a place that offers hair cuts, facials, massages and etc., that's quite upscale.  But each person that works there contracts.  Same with the lady that owns the beauty salon where I get my hair cut.  She owns the shop, but she leases chairs to other hairdressers, who pay her a monthly rent.  The hairdressers work for themselves.  Just thinking...
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« Reply #270 on: January 06, 2010, 03:25:03 PM »

Northern I think Monkey with Class, posted a translated version a page back.

Ohh I missed that.  Thank you and sorry.
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« Reply #271 on: January 06, 2010, 03:29:48 PM »

Car of missing Tempe baby's mother found in Texas (with video)

FBI officials are combing through a 1995 Oldsmobile in search of clues that could reveal the whereabouts of 8-month-old Gabriel Johnson, whose mother remains jailed in Florida for hiding the boy from his father.

The child was last seen in San Antonio with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, 23, of Tempe. Authorities say Johnson spent Dec. 22 to 27 at two motels in the city.

Johnson has refused to reveal where she left the boy and remains jailed. She was arrested last week in Miami Beach, Fla., on suspicion of custodial interference after she failed to show up for a custodial hearing in Phoenix.

On Tuesday, the FBI and San Antonio police located Johnson's car, a white 1995 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with Arizona license plate AGZ4214, FBI Special Agent Erik Vasys said.

"We are in the process of inventorying the vehicle and searching it," Vasys said.

He declined to say what was found inside the car, which was parked at a Motel 6 at 7950 Interstate 35 South, near Interstate 35 and State Road 422.

However, Vasys told the Associated Press a baby seat and other items were found inside, but there were no apparent signs of violence.

Vasys also declined to say whether Johnson had stayed at the motel.

Tempe police spokesman Steve Carbajal said that locating the vehicle was key to the investigation as there was a "possibility" the child may have still been in the car.

"We had information that she may have been looking to rid herself of the child, but at the same time, or around the same time, she made threats that she killed the baby," Carbajal said. "So which one was correct? That's what we were trying to figure out."

Johnson was arrested Dec. 30 without her son, who was last seen Dec. 26 by witnesses in San Antonio. The next day, she sent the baby's father, Logan McQueary, 25, a text message telling him she'd killed the baby. That's when he went to the police.

At a pre-scheduled hearing in Maricopa County Superior Court on Dec. 28, a judge awarded McQueary the custody of the child when Johnson didn't show up. A warrant for custodial interference was then issued for Johnson.

Since her arrest, she's invoked her right to remain silent and has refused to say what happened to the child. For the last seven months, a Phoenix couple has been trying to adopt the child, though McQueary has repeatedly refused to sign over his rights.

In a phone interview with a Phoenix TV station, Johnson said she gave her son to another couple she met at a San Antonio park.

"They approached me and came up to me as I was out alone with the baby at the park," Johnson told the TV station. "I trusted them. I believe in my heart they are good people."

In the interview, Johnson said she told McQueary she killed the child because "he had ruined my life and he hurt me and I wanted to hurt him. That was the only thing I could say that would hurt him."

Johnson said she told police about the San Antonio couple she reportedly gave Gabriel to. However, Tempe police have been unable to confirm her story, Carbajal said.

When asked if Johnson was concerned whether Gabriel was dead or alive, she simply replied "no, I'm not."

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/01/06/20100106misssingarizonababy06-ON.html
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« Reply #272 on: January 06, 2010, 03:29:48 PM »

CBS has posted an image gallery.  Most of the images of Gabriel are the same ones that Tammi has of him on her FB.  Tammi also called CBS yesterday to be there when they talked to Elizabeth from Jail.  Then the Smiths show up on GMA. Anyone else get the feeling that the Smith's have been paid handsomely for their photo rights?

Images 7,8,9 if you read the side caption are from the photos Logan submitted into court when Elizabeth trashed Gabriel's room.

http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2010/01/06/crimesider/photoessay6063007.shtml?tag=page
Thanks, I'm sure they have been paid quite well. The picture of that knife
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« Reply #273 on: January 06, 2010, 03:35:22 PM »

CBS has posted an image gallery.  Most of the images of Gabriel are the same ones that Tammi has of him on her FB.  Tammi also called CBS yesterday to be there when they talked to Elizabeth from Jail.  Then the Smiths show up on GMA. Anyone else get the feeling that the Smith's have been paid handsomely for their photo rights?

Images 7,8,9 if you read the side caption are from the photos Logan submitted into court when Elizabeth trashed Gabriel's room.

http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2010/01/06/crimesider/photoessay6063007.shtml?tag=page
Thanks, I'm sure they have been paid quite well. The picture of that knife

In a few of these pic of Gabriel  as a older baby he has a very sad look in his eyes.
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« Reply #274 on: January 06, 2010, 03:41:04 PM »

Just a thought here.  Do they really own the shops?  Or are they renting a space for services within the shop?  I know of a place that offers hair cuts, facials, massages and etc., that's quite upscale.  But each person that works there contracts.  Same with the lady that owns the beauty salon where I get my hair cut.  She owns the shop, but she leases chairs to other hairdressers, who pay her a monthly rent.  The hairdressers work for themselves.  Just thinking...


This is what I found on the Arizona Corporation Commission
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« Reply #275 on: January 06, 2010, 03:54:17 PM »

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« Reply #276 on: January 06, 2010, 03:57:37 PM »

Mom's car is found in missing baby case

An FBI agent in San Antonio on Tuesday found the car belonging to a Valley mother who claimed to have killed her 8-month-old son.

Watch Tribune reporter Mike Sakal discuss the case on Tuesday's "Nancy Grace" on CNN Headline News.  http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/149171#video

Tempe police and the FBI have been looking for the 1995 Oldsmobile since the arrest of Elizabeth Johnson, 23, in Miami Beach, Fla. on Dec. 30, who is being held in the Dade County Jail without bail pending extradition to Arizona.

Gabriel Johnson was not with his mother when police arrested her and they have not been seen together since Dec. 26 in San Antonio. She is also not cooperating with police in the search for the boy.

According to court documents, Johnson left messages with the boy’s father saying she had killed him and left him in a dumpster in a baby bag.

Police are also investigating whether Johnson gave the baby away.

The car was parked at a Motel 6 across from a bus station off Interstate 35.

“It has given us new info to follow-up on,” said Sgt. Steve Carbajal, Tempe police spokesman.

Johnson did not check into the Motel 6, but could be seen on surveillance video driving into the parking lot of the motel about 11:45 a.m. on Dec. 27, according to Hitu Eatel, manager of the motel.

“She was alone,” Eatel said. “She could be seen walking out of the parking lot about noon.”

Johnson walked toward a bus station across the street, Eatel said.


Johnson lost custody of the boy to his father, Logan Scott McQueary, 25, when she failed to show for a court hearing Dec. 27. She has been charged with custodial interference, a low-level felony, in Maricopa County Superior Court.

McQueary said Wednesday that he hasn’t heard of any developments in the case, but remains hopeful that Gabriel will be safely returned.

“I’m just watching the news like everyone else,” McQueary said.


http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/149171
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« Reply #277 on: January 06, 2010, 04:11:18 PM »

According to the last article Gabriel was not with Elizabeth when she ditched her car off behind Motel 6 at 11:45 Am Dec 27.  She then walked across to the Bus Station around Noon. She went to Tornado bus and from their site they go to Fort Meyers and Plant City Florida.  They do not give schedules on line.  I wish they had a schedule on line so we could see when the Florida bound buses left the San Antonio depot on Dec 27 and when they got to Florida.  Interested how much a ticket cost as well.

She had to go from
A) San Antonio
B) Fort Myers

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C) Plant City

But that still does not explain how she got to

D) Miami Beach
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« Reply #278 on: January 06, 2010, 04:27:54 PM »

She must have taken another bus to the youth hostel. Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that she ended up in a youth hostel? And who gave the tip that she was there, who would have known she was there? Unless some other person in the hostel did.
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« Reply #279 on: January 06, 2010, 04:31:50 PM »

She must have taken another bus to the youth hostel. Is it just me, or does anyone else find it odd that she ended up in a youth hostel? And who gave the tip that she was there, who would have known she was there? Unless some other person in the hostel did.

I would imagine  cell phone pings clued them (LE) that she was there.
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