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« Reply #1500 on: January 21, 2010, 04:49:55 PM »

Muffy, thank you for saying about the snipping -- it's one of my peeves that folks assume we can't read.  I have noticed before some will snip a comment from another thread to try and prove their point or that they have "support".  Just plain silly.
 

What just happened... I didn't post a snipping or anything did I?  I surely didn't mean to.

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« Reply #1501 on: January 21, 2010, 04:49:57 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?
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« Reply #1502 on: January 21, 2010, 04:55:45 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?

For some reason I recall her middle initial as being "A" but I could be wrong.
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« Reply #1503 on: January 21, 2010, 05:03:17 PM »

I can't find any property, house or mobile home in Elizabeth's name.
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« Reply #1504 on: January 21, 2010, 05:03:55 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?

Pretty sure her twin brothers name is Robert
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« Reply #1505 on: January 21, 2010, 05:10:34 PM »

Somewhere did I read it belonged to her father?
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« Reply #1506 on: January 21, 2010, 05:13:08 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?

Her address is 4605 S Priest Dr Lot 153
Tempe 85282
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« Reply #1507 on: January 21, 2010, 05:17:05 PM »

When I  searched for the trailer on the assessor site I did not find it.  Probably because she bought the trailer but rented the land it sat on?

Here is the assessor site

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/GIS/Map.html
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« Reply #1508 on: January 21, 2010, 05:17:59 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?

Pretty sure her twin brothers name is Robert

Yes it is.  Gramps is Robert as well
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« Reply #1509 on: January 21, 2010, 05:19:52 PM »

I will say, I sure wish grandpa would have called the police that his car had been stolen, this may have never happened. Elizabeth was only taking the car for an appointment, so grandpa must have been concerned that his car and Elizabeth and Gabriel didn't come back. At least I would think so.

NoRose, on this I agree, but even so, he can't be "blamed" for what Elizabeth has done with Gabriel and in my opinion via the Smiths.
No I'm not blaming him, I just can't figure out what he must have been thinking about where his car and they were at. Maybe he tried to get a hold of her by phone.

I bet he was just so used to her drama? Something was said by I think Logan but it could have been the grandfather and the brother that has stumped me. someone said they knew she had left town but it was ok and they didn't really think too much of it. There was a fear she wouldn't come back by the court date but they figured she would. Logan was supposed to get custody of the baby on the 20th? that is a Sunday and he was to have the baby from Sunday to Wednesday.  Is there any statement about this? Is this how he found out about her being out of town? I just think no one imagined she would ever go through with something like this. To threaten is one thing but to actually do it is another. 

Tracygirl ... in my opinion ... Elizabeth's past rages alledged by Logan in court documents should have been reason for serious concern regarding Gabriel's disappearance from the getgo.

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Tempe PD: Mother in custody, baby still missing after 9 days
January 5, 2010


Tempe police Sgt. Steve Carbajal said Johnson left Arizona with her 8-month-old son Gabriel on December 18.

"Everybody knew where she was and that was OK," Carbajal said. "She just wanted to
get away for a while and then these series of events happened where it was a concern for the father that she would not show up for a hearing.  His fears were confirmed."


Lost baby born into troubled home life
Jan. 17, 2010 12:00 AM


On Dec. 21, in a petition to enforce child-custody determination, he wrote, "When Elizabeth gets mad, she can and will hurt the baby."

By then, she had been away from her home in a Tempe trailer park for three days.

More:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/2010/01/17/20100117missingbaby0117
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« Reply #1510 on: January 21, 2010, 05:20:24 PM »

When I  searched for the trailer on the assessor site I did not find it.  Probably because she bought the trailer but rented the land it sat on?

Here is the assessor site

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/GIS/Map.html

Not sure if it's the same in Arizona as it is in California but trailers are treated more like vehicles than property.  So you have an annual registration through the DMV instead of paying property taxes.  You could have a mortgage on the trailer just like you could have a mortgage or loan on a home or car.  You won't find property records in california on a trailer/mobile home.  Sometimes you can own the property it sits on and that would have a records but often the land is leased/rented.
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« Reply #1511 on: January 21, 2010, 05:20:36 PM »

Trailer Park Owners
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« Reply #1512 on: January 21, 2010, 05:22:22 PM »

STeve, there is no address listed on the ads. Just that it is across the road from Arizona Mills Mall.

I am looking through the accessor's property site and have found an Elizabeth and mark Johnson,

Anybody remember her brother's name off the top of your head? And Elizabeth's middle name?

For some reason I recall her middle initial as being "A" but I could be wrong.

Middle name is Joanne
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« Reply #1513 on: January 21, 2010, 05:22:45 PM »

When I  searched for the trailer on the assessor site I did not find it.  Probably because she bought the trailer but rented the land it sat on?

Here is the assessor site

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/GIS/Map.html
You would be right Northern Rose - I believe that Mobile homes are not taxed only the land that they are sitting on.   We would have to know who owns the property.
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« Reply #1514 on: January 21, 2010, 05:24:02 PM »

Thanks Klaas I didnt' know that about moble homes.
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« Reply #1515 on: January 21, 2010, 05:25:53 PM »

When I  searched for the trailer on the assessor site I did not find it.  Probably because she bought the trailer but rented the land it sat on?

Here is the assessor site

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/GIS/Map.html
You would be right Northern Rose - I believe that Mobile homes are not taxed only the land that they are sitting on.   We would have to know who owns the property.

Rancho Tempe Mobile Home Park LLC
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« Reply #1516 on: January 21, 2010, 05:32:11 PM »

When I  searched for the trailer on the assessor site I did not find it.  Probably because she bought the trailer but rented the land it sat on?

Here is the assessor site

http://www.maricopa.gov/Assessor/GIS/Map.html
You would be right Northern Rose - I believe that Mobile homes are not taxed only the land that they are sitting on.   We would have to know who owns the property.

Rancho Tempe Mobile Home Park LLC

Here are the docs
http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recdocdata/GetRecDataDetail.aspx?rec=19980896407&suf=
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« Reply #1517 on: January 21, 2010, 05:36:04 PM »

So it is an LLC out of California, which means they own the land in the park and the mobile home owners rent their space
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« Reply #1518 on: January 21, 2010, 05:38:39 PM »

http://ranchotempemobilehomepark.lbu.com/aboutus.html

So I wonder what her monthly rent was there?  Was she keeping current on the payment?  What is the status of it now?
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« Reply #1519 on: January 21, 2010, 05:42:47 PM »

3 charges on this file, I have not found the other case yet.  There was a hearing scheduled for yesterday?

http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/publicaccess/caselookup.aspx
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