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« Reply #1660 on: January 23, 2010, 03:43:38 PM »

http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22251950/detail.html

link to pictures taken from EJ's camera, last photo on 12-26.  Was watching NG the other night and that girl that said she babysat Gabriel in the hotel room said the baby was dirty and thin.  This pic from 12-26 looks like he is clean and well taken care of... cute jammies, and eating.  Bed doesn't look dirty... wonder how credible that babysitter is...  also, the other pics of Gabriel on the bed, not sure if that is the bed at the hotel/motel or what, but there are toys for him... the babysitter said there were none...

Every one of those photos were taken in the hotel.  A couple at least were taken on 12/26 according to LE.  We know it was in the hotel because of the furniture and bedspread. 

I agree he doesn't look thin but the photo of him with the cap on looking doped up worries me.  Also worries me that he was playing with a prescription bottle of "something".
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« Reply #1661 on: January 23, 2010, 04:08:18 PM »

NoRose,

Robert W. Johnson died 2007.  Monkey "SuzieQ" mentioned she would do look ups on Ancestry related to Gabriel.


Birth, Marriage & Death
 
Name: Robert W. Johnson
State (Year) SSN issued: Arizona (date)
 
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Name:  Robert W. Johnson
Birth:  date
Death:  dd mm 2007 - city, Maricopa, Arizona, United States of America
Civil:  Arizona

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=RAYMOND+W&gsln=JOHNSON&_81004030=2007&msdpn=5&msdpn__ftp=Arizona%2C+USA
 

I hope she can see more with a membership.  I am hoping the obit lists EJ and Robert's mother and possible a relative that has ties to TX. 

I have a membership and other than his SS number, I'm really not getting any more info.

Edited to add:  I have a membership to Ancestry.com but it does not have the obit.  The obit is on Legacy for a fee.


http://genealogy.az.gov/

death search site until 1958, gives father and mothers name and place of birth.
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« Reply #1662 on: January 23, 2010, 04:11:21 PM »

I have a hard time believing a 4.0 student wrote this email--Unless we can find out that EJ also has such horrible grammar and spelling. We have seen time and again, even from her recent posts, Tammi cannot write nor use decent grammar. I suspect LE will find that it was Tammi who wrote the email.

"Dec 29 6:43 PM From Elizabeth to tammifay (myspace)
tammi, i will never come forward, yes what i said was wrong but i wanted him to hurt like he hurt me so thats why i said all that. me and gabriel are fine, in fact great i just got a full time job under a fake name and the owner is very understanding of my situation, and is willing to hel...p me get new id's and stuff. I can not let you or anyone else no where i am, just know i am getting lots of help, i am very smart and resourceful, and that i am one of the most compedant people you will ever meet. I have always taken care of myself bymyself as long as i can remember. i can't call in fear of phone records. I am ever worried this email can be traced to where i am, so i probably won't email again, but i had to let you know we are all right because i know you must be worried sick, and i am soo sorry for that i really am. YOU and jack are such good people."



EJ still could have wrote that even with all the mistakes. I know that when I write emails to friends (or post on forums) I don't care about punctuation/spelling/grammar/etc. especially if I'm rushed or ranting. I had pretty close to a 4.0 in college and high school but I just don't usually care about things like that in emails/posts.

I understand what you're saying; I've certainly made a few typos myself, even on this forum, when I'm in a hurry; Still, I have a difficult time believing it was written by EJ. There are some really bad mistakes in that email, and ones that seem all too consistent with the same typos and grammatical erros that Tammi makes in her Faceboook posts. Coincidence? Possible; but I doubt it.
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« Reply #1663 on: January 23, 2010, 04:11:28 PM »

http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22251950/detail.html

link to pictures taken from EJ's camera, last photo on 12-26.  Was watching NG the other night and that girl that said she babysat Gabriel in the hotel room said the baby was dirty and thin.  This pic from 12-26 looks like he is clean and well taken care of... cute jammies, and eating.  Bed doesn't look dirty... wonder how credible that babysitter is...  also, the other pics of Gabriel on the bed, not sure if that is the bed at the hotel/motel or what, but there are toys for him... the babysitter said there were none...

Every one of those photos were taken in the hotel.  A couple at least were taken on 12/26 according to LE.  We know it was in the hotel because of the furniture and bedspread. 

I agree he doesn't look thin but the photo of him with the cap on looking doped up worries me.  Also worries me that he was playing with a prescription bottle of "something".

A couple of days ago Inside Edition has a little piece about Baby Gabriel.  They had a pharmacist on who said that
the bottle shown in the pictures is a bottle of Infant Tylenol.  They showed the bottle in the picture next to the
bottle of Infant Tylenol and it was an exact match.
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« Reply #1664 on: January 23, 2010, 04:14:27 PM »

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=41053147&pageid=r&mode=ALL&n=0&query=robert+w+johnson

Good link...just 2007 isnt posted
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« Reply #1665 on: January 23, 2010, 04:17:27 PM »

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azclips/

Random Acts of Kindness is on here...



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« Reply #1666 on: January 23, 2010, 05:24:09 PM »

Startling new developments concerning "persons of interest" Jack and Tammi Smith in Gabriel Johnson disappearance! w/UPDATES

Travis Warford, biological father of Jack Smiths granddaughter Hannah claims grandfather Jack Smith stripped him of his parental rights without notifying him or his family and adopted his daughter. Travis claims he has been completely alienated from his biological daughter! Travis states, " The Smiths falsified information stating they had in order to gain custody and have manipulated the system to adopt my little girl without contacting me or my family."

During the Baby Gabriel investigation, FBI searched the house of adoption specialists in Nashville, Janet Morris, and uncovered documents where Morris was challenged for allegedly stripping a father of his parental rights without properly notifying him. [Reported by CBS5 news Phoenix]

Travis also states that he is afraid of Jack Smith due to being threatened by him and that Jack Smith also once tried to bribe him with $5,000.00 to pay for his divorce with the terms "that Travis would immediately leave town".

Travis also claims that he was jailed more than once for several bogus and fabricated "trumped up" charges.

Travis found out his daughter was adopted by the Smiths through a search for Tammi Smith's MySpace page where Tammi Smith posted pictures and wrote of her newly adopted child, "Hannah".

MORE...

http://framedfathers.blogspot.com/2010/01/startling-new-developments-concerning.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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« Reply #1667 on: January 23, 2010, 07:42:31 PM »

I didn't find anything other than Klaas found at Ancestry except maybe a last address.
309 S Shouse #25, Mesa Arizona.

Checking my email and found where Yami Virgin sent me a link to a site with about the same info as NR has. It does have a vidieo of Travis.

http://www.examiner.com/x-15873-Family-Rights-Examiner~y2010m1d15-Missing-baby-Gabriels-persons-of-interest-stole-granddaughter-for-their-own
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« Reply #1668 on: January 23, 2010, 07:44:41 PM »

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« Reply #1669 on: January 23, 2010, 08:22:51 PM »

NoRose,

Robert W. Johnson died 2007.  Monkey "SuzieQ" mentioned she would do look ups on Ancestry related to Gabriel.


Birth, Marriage & Death
 
Name: Robert W. Johnson
State (Year) SSN issued: Arizona (date)
 
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Name:  Robert W. Johnson
Birth:  date
Death:  dd mm 2007 - city, Maricopa, Arizona, United States of America
Civil:  Arizona

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=ROOT_CATEGORY&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=ms_f-2&gsfn=RAYMOND+W&gsln=JOHNSON&_81004030=2007&msdpn=5&msdpn__ftp=Arizona%2C+USA
 

I hope she can see more with a membership.  I am hoping the obit lists EJ and Robert's mother and possible a relative that has ties to TX. 

I have a membership and other than his SS number, I'm really not getting any more info.

Edited to add:  I have a membership to Ancestry.com but it does not have the obit.  The obit is on Legacy for a fee.


http://genealogy.az.gov/

death search site until 1958, gives father and mothers name and place of birth.

Klaas,

JOHNSON Sr., Robert W.  5/4/2007 EVT obit

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azobitsmaricopa/surname_johnson.htm
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« Reply #1670 on: January 23, 2010, 08:39:28 PM »

Eye opening article.  I have been concentrating on Craigslist. Did not know people were posting Youtubes and tweeting looking for babies to adopt 

Adoption seekers using YouTube, Facebook to find birth moms

Their paths crossed on YouTube on an August night last year.

Amanda, a college student seven months pregnant, scrolled past a YouTube video of a young California couple seeking adoption.

The couple, Jeremy and Christy Nueman, wanted to adopt a baby after struggling with infertility for five years. But instead of relying solely on newspaper ads or bulletin board fliers to increase their chances of connecting with a birth mother, they created a short YouTube video to show who they are.

MORE...

http://www.allbusiness.com/society-social/families-children-adoption/12204843-1.html

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« Reply #1671 on: January 23, 2010, 08:56:48 PM »

This is the overdose information on infant tylenol. What gets me is there are no stated side effects of drowsiness. If she drug him it is not from this, I would think

https://www.tylenol.com/product_detail.jhtml;jsessionid=H3RCPF5AON0MMCQPCCGSUYYKB2IIQNSC?id=tylenol/children/prod_inf.inc&prod=subpinf&_requestid=193123#

Keep out of reach of children.

Overdose warning: Taking more than the recommended dose (overdose) may cause liver damage. In the case of overdose, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away. (1-800-222-1222). Quick medical attention is critical even if you do not notice any signs or symptoms
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« Reply #1672 on: January 23, 2010, 08:57:12 PM »

http://wholinkstome.com/phrase/maricopa-county-marriage-records

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1.recorder.maricopa.gov
2 maricopa.gov 
4 publicrecords.onlinesearches.com 
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8 vitalrec.com
9 supreme.state.az.us
10 resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com 
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« Reply #1673 on: January 23, 2010, 08:58:36 PM »

This is the overdose information on infant tylenol. What gets me is there are no stated side effects of drowsiness. If she drug him it is not from this, I would think

https://www.tylenol.com/product_detail.jhtml;jsessionid=H3RCPF5AON0MMCQPCCGSUYYKB2IIQNSC?id=tylenol/children/prod_inf.inc&prod=subpinf&_requestid=193123#

Keep out of reach of children.

Overdose warning: Taking more than the recommended dose (overdose) may cause liver damage. In the case of overdose, get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away. (1-800-222-1222). Quick medical attention is critical even if you do not notice any signs or symptoms

Im sorry this is the whole page, must not have copied.

Warnings

Liver warning: This product contains acetaminophen. Severe liver damage may occur if your child takes

more than 5 doses in 24 hours, which is the maximum daily amount.
with other drugs containing acetaminophen.

Sore throat warning: if sore throat is severe, persists for more than 2 days, is accompanied or followed by fever, headache, rash, nausea, or vomiting, consult a doctor promptly.

Do not use
with any other drug containing acetaminophen (prescription or nonprescription). If you are not sure whether a drug contains acetaminophen, ask a doctor or pharmacist
if your child is allergic to acetaminophen or any of the inactive ingredients in this product.


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These could be signs of a serious condition.

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« Reply #1674 on: January 23, 2010, 09:04:19 PM »

This looks like a prescription bottle to me and not an OTC Tylenol.



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« Reply #1675 on: January 23, 2010, 09:07:11 PM »

Startling new developments concerning "persons of interest" Jack and Tammi Smith in Gabriel Johnson disappearance! w/UPDATES

Travis Warford, biological father of Jack Smiths granddaughter Hannah claims grandfather Jack Smith stripped him of his parental rights without notifying him or his family and adopted his daughter. Travis claims he has been completely alienated from his biological daughter! Travis states, " The Smiths falsified information stating they had in order to gain custody and have manipulated the system to adopt my little girl without contacting me or my family."

During the Baby Gabriel investigation, FBI searched the house of adoption specialists in Nashville, Janet Morris, and uncovered documents where Morris was challenged for allegedly stripping a father of his parental rights without properly notifying him. [Reported by CBS5 news Phoenix]

Travis also states that he is afraid of Jack Smith due to being threatened by him and that Jack Smith also once tried to bribe him with $5,000.00 to pay for his divorce with the terms "that Travis would immediately leave town".

Travis also claims that he was jailed more than once for several bogus and fabricated "trumped up" charges.

Travis found out his daughter was adopted by the Smiths through a search for Tammi Smith's MySpace page where Tammi Smith posted pictures and wrote of her newly adopted child, "Hannah".

MORE...

http://framedfathers.blogspot.com/2010/01/startling-new-developments-concerning.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks Northern Rose.

That link is a good read.

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« Reply #1676 on: January 23, 2010, 09:13:10 PM »

Wish I could see the back side of the Tylenol:








Maybe it is only infant Tylenol?
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« Reply #1677 on: January 23, 2010, 09:14:53 PM »

Do you think maybe a product like this? 

https://www.tylenol.com/product_detail.jhtml?id=tylenol/children/prod_ccd.inc&prod=subpccd#
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« Reply #1678 on: January 23, 2010, 09:18:35 PM »

Wish I could see the back side of the Tylenol:








Maybe it is only infant Tylenol?

Yea I can see it could be the same bottle, maybe a grape flavor rather then cherry and it is a bit smaller? However, infant tylenol doesn't cause drowsiness so I am not sure if this would be the med given if he is medicated. I wonder if she used some kind of alergy med?
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« Reply #1679 on: January 23, 2010, 09:31:30 PM »

My head is spinning right now reading about a certain person and her adoption agency and embryo selling in Texas. 

Read this first  http://www.dallasobserver.com/2007-06-07/news/ringing-up-baby/1
(and it is a long read but a must read)

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In Texas, only a parent, guardian or licensed child-placing agency can act as an intermediary between adoptive and expectant parents. And only a licensed child-placing agency can advertise to place, provide or obtain a child. (The Texas Family Code, as it pertains to adoptions, defines "child" as a person under the age of 18 and does not say anything about embryos.)


Then I found a cached page on one of her "adoption agencies" with interesting comments
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:FNLwYbJK3FAJ:www.zoominfo.com/people/Ryan_Jennalee_1277328485.aspx+abigail%27s+silver+spoon+adoptions+texas&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca


The Texas adoption agencies that this lady is affiliated with are:

San Antonio's Abraham Center of Life with offices in Texas and California, is described as an "advertising service" that refers interested parties to facilities that can meet their needs for egg donation, surrogacy or embryo donation

A Silver Spoon Adoptions
"A Abagails [sic] Silver Spoon Adoption" and the A-less "Abagails Silver Spoon Adoptions," is an advertising service for the adoption of full-blown human beings.

       
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