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« Reply #360 on: January 16, 2010, 02:55:57 PM »

http://www.intelius.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&qf=Janis&qmi=&qn=COUVILLION&qs=AZ&trackit=74&focusfirst=1

Janis Susette Couvillion (Peters) is 60 year old, she is the mother of Tammi F. Peters.

JSCP had a child in 1968, 1970,1972, 1976.

TPS was born in March 12, 1972, her mother was abt. 23 yrs. old when she gave birth to her.

http://156.42.40.50/UnOfficialDocs/pdf/19970266019.pdf

(Parent's divorce papers) Page 2 lists the four children of JSCP
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« Reply #361 on: January 16, 2010, 02:59:36 PM »

I may be wrong,too...let's see what plays out.
For some reason I have always wondered about a baby brokering business as well seahorse - I don't know why but it has always been in the back of my mind.......they live in a very exclusive area in AZ - Scottsdale is very hoity toity - very expensive - I just can't help but wonder how they afford living there doing what they do??

I believe its a baby selling business, too.  We only know about a couple of instances where Tammi failed to grab someone's baby.  How about all of the instances where she might have been successful?  In some ways, she reminds me of Casey Anthony in that when she's caught in one lie, she can quickly make up another to explain it.  Her history, if what we have been told is true, is rife with instances of trying to eliminate the father from the equasion in order to have the mother relinquish the baby.  That brings up the question of why would she repeatedly do this?  For the money, I would think.

What person in their right mind would approach a girl with a baby in an airport and ask them if they would like to give the baby up for adoption?  What normal person would do that?   

I don't know what kind of person would do that.  I do know I've sat in airports for long hours in various parts of the world and have seen exhausted mothers travelling alone  with babies or toddlers that were crying or restless and I've tried to help by holding the children, playing with them  feeding them or whatever I can do to help and giving the mother a break to rest or eat.   And it never once crossed my mind to make adoption inquiries.  And no one that I helped ever asked me if I wanted to adopt their child or knew of anyone that wanted to adopt their child.  That's just my experience, FWIW.   
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« Reply #362 on: January 16, 2010, 03:04:38 PM »

And to add to my previous post, if someone I had just met at random in an airport asked me if I wanted to adopt their child or knew of anyone that would want to adopt the baby, my hinky meter would have gone off the dial, and I would be following up with security.  And I can tell you right now if I was caring for a baby and someone asked me if I wanted to give it up for adoption, I would be finding a cop asap.  That's what any normal person would do.  Again, jmho.  How do people go along and talk about adoption so casually?  I don't think they do.  To me, they are trolling for a baby or trolling for $ to sell their baby.  MOO
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« Reply #363 on: January 16, 2010, 03:12:04 PM »


I have pictures also when my girls were little that they looked tired. But I don't have any of them holding medicine or drinking medicine, I do believe there was a purpose for those drugged looking pictures, and they weren't because she thought he looked cute. 


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Your thoughts reflect mine.  I pray we are wrong in our speculation.

DIL somehow believes that the bottle which Gabriel is drinking from may be a disposable baby juice bottle.  A while back ... while attending babies at her church nursery during the service ... one of the Moms left a similar bottle with her in case her little guy became fussy.

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Thank-you, I never seen a cup like that before, you would think it would all spill out while he is laying on the bed. I pray we are wrong in our speculation also.

Apparently ... a disposable juice baby bottle has a nipple.

I would think the substance would spill if Gabriel was drinking from a medicine bottle.

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« Reply #364 on: January 16, 2010, 03:15:03 PM »


I have pictures also when my girls were little that they looked tired. But I don't have any of them holding medicine or drinking medicine, I do believe there was a purpose for those drugged looking pictures, and they weren't because she thought he looked cute. 


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Your thoughts reflect mine.  I pray we are wrong in our speculation.

DIL somehow believes that the bottle which Gabriel is drinking from may be a disposable baby juice bottle.  A while back ... while attending babies at her church nursery during the service ... one of the Moms left a similar bottle with her in case her little guy became fussy.

Janet


Thank-you, I never seen a cup like that before, you would think it would all spill out while he is laying on the bed. I pray we are wrong in our speculation also.

Apparently ... a disposable juice baby bottle has a nipple.

I would think the substance would spill if Gabriel was drinking from a medicine bottle.

Janet

the new medicine bottles have a nipple on it.  They are something new.
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« Reply #365 on: January 16, 2010, 03:19:26 PM »


I have pictures also when my girls were little that they looked tired. But I don't have any of them holding medicine or drinking medicine, I do believe there was a purpose for those drugged looking pictures, and they weren't because she thought he looked cute. 


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Your thoughts reflect mine.  I pray we are wrong in our speculation.

DIL somehow believes that the bottle which Gabriel is drinking from may be a disposable baby juice bottle.  A while back ... while attending babies at her church nursery during the service ... one of the Moms left a similar bottle with her in case her little guy became fussy.

Janet


Thank-you, I never seen a cup like that before, you would think it would all spill out while he is laying on the bed. I pray we are wrong in our speculation also.

Apparently ... a disposable juice baby bottle has a nipple.

I would think the substance would spill if Gabriel was drinking from a medicine bottle.

Janet

the new medicine bottles have a nipple on it.  They are something new.

Thanks.

I think that is a good idea.  However ... the dropper has done the job through three kids and .. five grandbabies.

I wonder if authorities have clued into the implication of these images.  If it is medicine ... not juice .. in that bottle which Gabriel is drinking from there is certainly a lot.

Janet
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« Reply #366 on: January 16, 2010, 03:21:58 PM »

http://www.greatbabyproducts.com/index.php?p=uvl&pnum=munc-12501

Something similar to what is seen at this link.  A medicine cup with a nipple on it.
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« Reply #367 on: January 16, 2010, 03:23:14 PM »

I was quite surprised that in the pictures, Gabriel was dressed for bed in at least two different sets of PJs and maybe three different sets.  This possibly means that the pics were taken on at least two and maybe three different nights.  It also means that someone cared enough to get him ready for bed or maybe he was gotten ready in PJs just for his picture.  He does look adorable and any prospective "Adoptive" parents would be charmed by him.  It does look to be a medicine bottle with a dropper to me, maybe a prescription medication. Wonder if drug stores in SA have been checked and also pediatricians. 
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« Reply #368 on: January 16, 2010, 03:27:25 PM »

I was quite surprised that in the pictures, Gabriel was dressed for bed in at least two different sets of PJs and maybe three different sets.  This possibly means that the pics were taken on at least two and maybe three different nights.  It also means that someone cared enough to get him ready for bed or maybe he was gotten ready in PJs just for his picture.  He does look adorable and any prospective "Adoptive" parents would be charmed by him.  It does look to be a medicine bottle with a dropper to me, maybe a prescription medication. Wonder if drug stores in SA have been checked and also pediatricians. 

Maybe even the pediatrician the baby had in Arizona should be checked for recent visits and or prescriptions.  I hope the police see the significance in this and realize what he is drinking out of in that last photo is a medicine bottle rather than just a regular bottle.
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« Reply #369 on: January 16, 2010, 03:29:23 PM »


Indictment Handed Up In Baby Gabriel Case
UPDATED: 7:52 pm MST January 15, 2010


On Friday, the Tempe Police Department released photographs of Gabriel taken from Johnson's camera.

According to an e-mail from Horn, time stamps from the camera indicate the final photographs were taken Dec. 26. Gabriel was reported missing Dec. 27.

http://www.kpho.com/news/22251939/detail.html


Police Release Photographs Of Baby Gabriel

http://www.kpho.com/slideshow/news/22251950/detail.html
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« Reply #370 on: January 16, 2010, 03:35:05 PM »

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we held the truth from the media because the police didn't have time to interview us till after 15 days! long story, but we were trying to be sensitive to Craig, which had NOTHING to do with Gabriel's disappearance!....
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This woman is beyond belief.  She was trying to be "Sensitive to Craig" when it was she who put his name down as the father in the first place.  I wonder how many times she's used "Craig" as the father while falsifying adoption papers.  Sensitive, my foot.
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« Reply #371 on: January 16, 2010, 03:35:37 PM »

Life outside the computer room beckons.

I am anticipating good news when I return in regards to this precious baby.

Have a good Saturday all!

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« Reply #372 on: January 16, 2010, 04:05:51 PM »

The grapevine  ::MonkeyHaHa::says the recent house bought by the Smith's, is listed under Tammi's name.
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« Reply #373 on: January 16, 2010, 04:15:15 PM »

The grapevine  ::MonkeyHaHa::says the recent house bought by the Smith's, is listed under Tammi's name.


Seahorse, do you have their address?  Can you post it?
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« Reply #374 on: January 16, 2010, 04:16:53 PM »

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we held the truth from the media because the police didn't have time to interview us till after 15 days! long story, but we were trying to be sensitive to Craig, which had NOTHING to do with Gabriel's disappearance!....
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This woman is beyond belief.  She was trying to be "Sensitive to Craig" when it was she who put his name down as the father in the first place.  I wonder how many times she's used "Craig" as the father while falsifying adoption papers.  Sensitive, my foot.

Babybear,

This is how the scheme may play out:  TS writes in CC's name as father and then he signs over the papers for adoption.
It may be a profitable business, he does nothing but "give-up his rights to the baby"! He never meets the mother, and
doesn't know the baby, but makes a few bucks. JMO
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« Reply #375 on: January 16, 2010, 04:18:40 PM »

The grapevine  ::MonkeyHaHa::says the recent house bought by the Smith's, is listed under Tammi's name.


Seahorse, do you have their address?  Can you post it?

I'm digging...
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« Reply #376 on: January 16, 2010, 04:19:22 PM »

The grapevine  ::MonkeyHaHa::says the recent house bought by the Smith's, is listed under Tammi's name.


Seahorse, do you have their address?  Can you post it?

I'm digging...

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« Reply #377 on: January 16, 2010, 04:26:30 PM »

The grapevine  ::MonkeyHaHa::says the recent house bought by the Smith's, is listed under Tammi's name.


Seahorse, do you have their address?  Can you post it?

I'm digging...

Me too!

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I am not very swift...LOL., I just glean:)

http://156.42.40.50/UnOfficialDocs/pdf/20090485377.pdf


http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recdocdata/GetRecDataPaging.aspx?biz1=&biz2=&fn1=tammi&mn1=&ln1=smith&fn2=&mn2=&ln2=&begdt=01/01/1947&enddt=1/16/2010&doc1=&doc2=&doc3=&doc4=&doc5=

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« Reply #378 on: January 16, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »

The house was bought a few months ago, the grapeline has noted.
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« Reply #379 on: January 16, 2010, 04:29:32 PM »

Tammi Peters Smith

we held the truth from the media because the police didn't have time to interview us till after 15 days! long story, but we were trying to be sensitive to Craig, which had NOTHING to do with Gabriel's disappearance!....
a few seconds ago


This woman is beyond belief.  She was trying to be "Sensitive to Craig" when it was she who put his name down as the father in the first place.  I wonder how many times she's used "Craig" as the father while falsifying adoption papers.  Sensitive, my foot.

Babybear,

This is how the scheme may play out:  TS writes in CC's name as father and then he signs over the papers for adoption.
It may be a profitable business, he does nothing but "give-up his rights to the baby"! He never meets the mother, and
doesn't know the baby, but makes a few bucks. JMO

Seahorse--You could certainly be right. Craig Cherry could be part of it too.  It would take a large amount of nerve to just randomly choose his name without his knowledge.  Tammi has a lot of nerve though.  It could be that he is the "Father" of 50 babies Tammi has illegally helped place.
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