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« Reply #860 on: January 18, 2010, 08:50:24 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.
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« Reply #861 on: January 18, 2010, 08:59:04 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.

It DOES seem like they would offer her a deal to tell them where the baby is... doesn't it?
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« Reply #862 on: January 18, 2010, 09:34:18 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.

She probably accidently (or not) OD'd him on NyQuil, or something similar 'to keep him quiet'. Remember she told the babysitter to give him medicine to keep him quiet...no?
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« Reply #863 on: January 18, 2010, 09:46:08 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.

She probably accidently (or not) OD'd him on NyQuil, or something similar 'to keep him quiet'. Remember she told the babysitter to give him medicine to keep him quiet...no?

Very possible NUT.   
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« Reply #864 on: January 18, 2010, 09:53:53 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.
I hope it is stubborn vindictiveness but I am suddenly not having good feelings about this.
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« Reply #865 on: January 18, 2010, 09:55:35 PM »

Cindy Lee seems to be a fan of Tammi Smith - could it be?

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I also agree. I know you love Gabriel as I would have too. Doesn't take but a minute for a baby to grab your heart. I hope when all the news comes out you guys will be seen for the good people you are. You are only guilty of giving this baby love. Stay strong and you will prevail. The media puts a spin on everything and there are mindless people that believe whatever they read..

     

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« Reply #866 on: January 18, 2010, 10:05:02 PM »

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/tempe/fears-of-baby-gabriel%27s-death-mount-1-18-2010

Fears of Baby Gabriel's Death Mount
Police, father worry that baby is not still alive


Updated: Monday, 18 Jan 2010, 7:49 PM MST
Published : Monday, 18 Jan 2010, 6:49 PM MST

PHOENIX - Logan McQueary, the father of the missing 8-month-old Tempe baby, is again speaking out on his past with the baby's 23-year-old mother Elizabeth Johnson. He's also losing hope that Gabriel will ever be found.

McQueary says that while Johnson was pregnant with Gabriel, he gave her the option to have an abortion, but she said she wanted to have the baby. As the relationship fell apart, she then started talking about adoption.

At a press conference Monday, McQueary told FOX 10 that Johnson had a tendency to go into uncontrollable rages. He is certain she is capable of killing a baby, but he is clinging to hope that Gabriel is still alive.

His message to the unidentified couple that allegedly adopted Gabriel in San Antonio, Texas: "I just want them to realize how much I miss him and how much I want him. To be a part of my life, my family, and realize what they're doing to everybody," said McQueary, choking back tears. "I just want them to do the right thing, and get him home."

Earlier Monday, Elizabeth Johnson's grandfather visited her in jail and they talked for about 20 minutes. He says he encouraged her to tell the truth, but she isn't prepared to speak.

"She's prepared to stay strong in her conviction that she did the right thing and the baby's in good hands," said Robert Johnson.

The Tempe Police Department says that when baby Gabriel first went missing, they had "strong indicators" that he was still alive and in good health. But they say now, those indicators are not nearly as strong.
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« Reply #867 on: January 18, 2010, 10:18:34 PM »

Thanks Klaas - that is heartbreaking.
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« Reply #868 on: January 18, 2010, 10:20:25 PM »

Wow!  You all have been busy lately.  Tammi's criminal charges and four different last names are interesting and not surprising.  Add to these the expulsion of her business from Tennessee.  So, she comes to Arizona to try her cons here.  It certainly didn't last long.  After seeing the websites about the underground, I am wondering more and more if this baby might be in Mexico.  I've read that it is a place to hide.  I might do more research on this angle.  Elizabeth could have turned him over to baby underground to hide him in Mexico for a time before they adopted him out, maybe even to another country other than US.

I agree AZLady.

All this incriminating research pertaining to Tammi Smith's background should be compiled/organized on a separate thread and ... then sent to investigators.  Some of our Monkeys are very computer savy in regards to accessing records.  It is all beyond me.

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IF they have done their homework/job they should already know all this, but I wouldn't count on it.

Dear Monkey friends I need your help. I have tried to find the posting from Tammi speaking about the downs child. I want to gather information and call this in. According to what I recall the post saying, she was set to adopt a little baby boy who had downs and then along came Gabriel and the original plans feel through. A poster on Facebook responded Tammi said the mom wanted more money and she didn't want to do anything illegal so she backed out. So I am not sure if this was 2 different babies or if this is the same baby. I am very disturbed by this little baby boy with downs who mother was supposedly trying to sell him off to the highest bidder, of course that comes from tammi so who knows if it is the truth. I would like to report this in the hopes LE looks into where this woman and baby are. Anyhow, I cannot find this information. Does anyone have a screen shot of the conversation where Tammi says this all?
Thank you for any help you can give.
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« Reply #869 on: January 18, 2010, 10:21:52 PM »

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« Reply #870 on: January 18, 2010, 10:24:20 PM »

I'd be willing to bet that LE would make her a deal if she would just tell where Gabriel is.  I'm not buying the 20 years for kidnapping excuse.  Either she's just a stubborn vindictive gal or she killed Gabriel and that's why it won't help her to tell.

I can't think of this little guy being dead. Last night I took a look again at the pics and this time tried to take my feelings out of it. I saw a sad little baby who was so vulnerable..I wished I could just scoop him up out of that pic and take him to his daddy.
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« Reply #871 on: January 18, 2010, 10:25:51 PM »

It sounds as if Elizabeth's lawyers are preparing her to face much more serious charges than custodial interference.  If this were a case of a distraught young mother who fled with her child after a fight with boyfriend, then I don't think she would face 20 years behind bars if she was honest and upfront with police.  Even if she gave her child to a couple to raise, if she told the truth and the child were found with an adoptive couple, I really don't see 20 years behind bars.  That would not happen.  Lawyers and police are preparing her for really serious charges.  She is not cooperating and is lying to police.  The only logical conclusion is that they anticipate serious charges.  This baby was not given to an adoptive couple.  I think we can stop believing that now.
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« Reply #872 on: January 18, 2010, 10:28:44 PM »

Vitamin B-12 injections, mayo clinics opinion.

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If you're hoping to lose weight, resist the lure of quick and easy solutions. What counts is a healthy lifestyle. Enjoy healthier foods and include physical activity in your daily routine.

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« Reply #873 on: January 18, 2010, 10:28:57 PM »

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« Reply #874 on: January 18, 2010, 10:32:38 PM »

It sounds as if Elizabeth's lawyers are preparing her to face much more serious charges than custodial interference.  If this were a case of a distraught young mother who fled with her child after a fight with boyfriend, then I don't think she would face 20 years behind bars if she was honest and upfront with police.  Even if she gave her child to a couple to raise, if she told the truth and the child were found with an adoptive couple, I really don't see 20 years behind bars.  That would not happen.  Lawyers and police are preparing her for really serious charges.  She is not cooperating and is lying to police.  The only logical conclusion is that they anticipate serious charges.  This baby was not given to an adoptive couple.  I think we can stop believing that now.

Very difficult to think of, very difficult. 
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« Reply #875 on: January 18, 2010, 10:34:51 PM »

Holy garage sale and creepy dollheads


That place is a designers nightmare! They need to get Candance Olsen from HGTV in there ASAP! Or Vern or someone, anyone!
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« Reply #876 on: January 18, 2010, 10:35:24 PM »

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« Reply #877 on: January 18, 2010, 10:36:38 PM »

Oh, and there is no Healing Waters storefront at 67th Ave and Happy Valley Rd.  I checked.  There are two shopping centers on north-east and south-east corners of that intersection.  The north-east shopping center is anchored by a Walmart Grocery store and Walgreens.  There is an oriental restaurant, a dry cleaner, a nail salon and some empty storefronts.  The south-east corner has Fry's Grocery store and more smaller shops like Curves, pizza place, Shiny Nails, a hair salon, Italian restaurant, coffee place, pool supply store and others.  NO Healing Waters, though.  I can definitively say that the Healing Waters she advertises at 67th and Happy Valley was her home address.  The only Healing Waters store that has Arizona tax license is the Sun City location on Meeker Blvd.  The other three locations are within the Dolce Salons, so she works under their tax license.  She's not opening a new business, but offering a new service at her existing four locations.
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« Reply #878 on: January 18, 2010, 10:37:41 PM »

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« Reply #879 on: January 18, 2010, 10:39:12 PM »

I believe the same way as some on here, I dont think she would be willing to do 20 years if she could tell where the baby was, As we have seen numerous times, if a parent wont tell things about a child that is missing and keeps making up excuses about why it is gone, well it never turn out good once the truth comes out....I pray Im wrong about this but its looking really bad to me.
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