Gabriel Johnson #2 1/15/10 - 1/27/10

[no rose colored glasses]

NG covering Gabriel

Investigators using photos to develop a timeline

LE is starting to check the dump

No other pictures on her camera other than the 6 images that were relelased

Trying to recover any other images that were deleted off her camera

I sure wish they had searched the dump before now 

[Northern Rose]

Found camera on EJ when they found EJ in miami beach.

Desk clerk at Homegate Suites confirmed EJ used computer in hotel lobby

[Tracygirl]

Can you just imagine how much trash has been dumped since this baby went missing? If he is in there, what are the chances of finding him?

[Mere]

Nancy is at least a day behind....pictures are just released "bombshell".  EJ used
hotel computer at least once according to NG.  Question re craigslist....is it only
on line or is it published in local newspapers?

[higherhopes]

Found camera on EJ when they found EJ in miami beach.

Desk clerk at Homegate Suites confirmed EJ used computer in hotel lobby

I hope they get the info off that comp. too, I wish they would hurry and find out just what happened to this beautiful baby!

[bananas]

Craigslist is filled with prostitution and quite frankly a bunch of sick people. It is an awful, awful place. I think LE tried to shut down the adult side, not sure what happened. It jsut sickens me you cannot post a free dog but you can show any body part you wish under the warning it is only intended for adult use.

It has disgusted me.  I am a big fan of Ebay but I will NEVER NEVER use Craigs List for anything!

[no rose colored glasses]

Craigslist is filled with prostitution and quite frankly a bunch of sick people. It is an awful, awful place. I think LE tried to shut down the adult side, not sure what happened. It jsut sickens me you cannot post a free dog but you can show any body part you wish under the warning it is only intended for adult use.

It has disgusted me.  I am a big fan of Ebay but I will NEVER NEVER use Craigs List for anything!

I have never been on Craigs List, and now know I never will.

[Northern Rose]

Babysitter is back on

not much food in the room, 1 can of enfimal (sp) and a few jars of babyfood

[AZLady]

The Arizona detective and NG said two things that caught my attention tonight.  One, Elizabeth is charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping.  Who are her co-conspirators?  The Smith's need to shut up and find a lawyer, fast.  They are the obvious "Persons of Interest."  Secondly,  the detective did mention "underground adoption."  He used that phrase and said that they believe there was some intent of this.  I do think we are on the right track in discussing this. 

I am also beginning to think that there was an underground adoption planned with the Smith's facilitating and Elizabeth couldn't tolerate the delays and time it took to implement.  Consider that she had a temper, flew into rages, couldn't stand to hear the baby cry, and according to Logan she wanted the baby taken to another room or shut up so she didn't hear him cry.  Now, think about this:  she was in a car and a motel room with the child constantly, 24/7, for a week, give or take a day.  No one but the babysitter for two short hours gave her a break from baby care.  I imagine she found it stressful.  I hope she didn't kill that sweet little boy, but it does seem likely.

[bananas]

Tracygirl.... I am so sorry you had to endure the things you did.  The upside is it sounds like it made you stronger and that is good.   

[AZLady]

If there is a grain of truth in all lies, and she put little Gabriel's body in a diaper bag before putting him in the dumpster, then I hope they are looking for that diaper bag in the dump.  If this did happen, this would keep the remains together and in one place, relatively protected, maybe.  Just musing...

[no rose colored glasses]

Tracygirl.... I am so sorry you had to endure the things you did.  The upside is it sounds like it made you stronger and that is good.   

I am also  And it certainly does seem that the horrible experience has made you a very strong person.

[Searching]

The Arizona detective and NG said two things that caught my attention tonight.  One, Elizabeth is charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping.  Who are her co-conspirators?  The Smith's need to shut up and find a lawyer, fast.  They are the obvious "Persons of Interest."  Secondly,  the detective did mention "underground adoption."  He used that phrase and said that they believe there was some intent of this.  I do think we are on the right track in discussing this. 

I am also beginning to think that there was an underground adoption planned with the Smith's facilitating and Elizabeth couldn't tolerate the delays and time it took to implement.  Consider that she had a temper, flew into rages, couldn't stand to hear the baby cry, and according to Logan she wanted the baby taken to another room or shut up so she didn't hear him cry.  Now, think about this:  she was in a car and a motel room with the child constantly, 24/7, for a week, give or take a day.  No one but the babysitter for two short hours gave her a break from baby care.  I imagine she found it stressful.  I hope she didn't kill that sweet little boy, but it does seem likely.

I agree and think that if TS had any hand in her going to SA and EJ ended up snapping and killing baby Gabe, TS should be charged in the death of baby Gabe JMO as she would have had a hand in putting and keeping that precious baby in harms way.

[Searching]

If there is a grain of truth in all lies, and she put little Gabriel's body in a diaper bag before putting him in the dumpster, then I hope they are looking for that diaper bag in the dump.  If this did happen, this would keep the remains together and in one place, relatively protected, maybe.  Just musing...

I was thinking the same thing but could not bring myself to say it. I hope he is with a family who thinks they are protecting him and they are taking care of him, I would prefer that than the alternative.

[Northern Rose]

EJ's father passed away in 2007

Mom before that (we know mom was murdered in Boston)

Babysitter says EJ told her it was Granny she was arguing with on the phone
"what am I supposed to do, just go back" a lady on the other end was screaming at her
conversation lasted no more than 5 mins
could not hear what woman was saying to EJ

EJ told her granny was scared because Gabriel's daddy was threatening her as EJ and baby daddy were in a custody battle.

EJ told sitter she did not know what she was going to do next

(Who is with me on thinking Granny = Tammi)

[no rose colored glasses]

EJ's father passed away in 2007

Mom before that (we know mom was murdered in Boston)

Babysitter says EJ told her it was Granny she was arguing with on the phone
"what am I supposed to do, just go back" a lady on the other end was screaming at her
conversation lasted no more than 5 mins
could not hear what woman was saying to EJ

EJ told her granny was scared because Gabriel's daddy was threatening her as EJ and baby daddy were in a custody battle.

EJ told sitter she did not know what she was going to do next

(Who is with me on thinking Granny = Tammi)

Oh yes, Granny = Tammi

[Northern Rose]

Full can of powdered enfimal in room
one bottle
no sterilizer
no evidence of shopping for food

[Searching]

EJ's father passed away in 2007

Mom before that (we know mom was murdered in Boston)

Babysitter says EJ told her it was Granny she was arguing with on the phone
"what am I supposed to do, just go back" a lady on the other end was screaming at her
conversation lasted no more than 5 mins
could not hear what woman was saying to EJ

EJ told her granny was scared because Gabriel's daddy was threatening her as EJ and baby daddy were in a custody battle.

EJ told sitter she did not know what she was going to do next

(Who is with me on thinking Granny = Tammi)

Oh yes, Granny = Tammi

Yes, I think so as well.

[higherhopes]

I agree also, Granny is Tammi, otherwise I think the real Granny would have already been revealed.

[Northern Rose]

From the Tammi/Gabriel FB

DO NOT GIVE TIPS ABOUT GABRIEL TO THE NUMBER ON THIS PAGE

It is unfortunate that no one can top post this on the main page. I have no idea whose number Tammi has posted.

Please, if you have any tips about baby Gabriel or this case, do not call the number listed here. It is not any number circulated by law enforcement. News reports do not mention any Det. Rimeras as being connected to this case. The only mention of her is in Nancy Grace interview by Tammi and they do not even spell the last name this way. I am not accusing anyone of anything, just call the correct numbers that Law Enforcement has repeatedly asked the public to use if they have tips.

Call National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678)... or the Tempe Police Department 480-350-8311, Steve Carbajal

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