Gabriel Johnson #3 1/27/10 - 2/16/10

[klaasend]

OMG....I went out for a few hours and come back to this being a murder. My heart is breaking for Logan. They should have searched that landfill as soon as Gabriel was reported missing and she sent that text message. I am just praying that the weather has been cold enough to preserve some of the evidence if he is found there.

I hope they charge that witch Tammi with accessory to murder and fry her big mouth azz. This just makes me so dang angry I could biotch slap Tammi.

Darla - It doesn't sound like they have any new information.  My opinion is they needed to call it a homicide to allow them to actually search the landfill for a body.

[newfie]

    This makes me feel like they may know something more at this point. I hope I am wrong.  Elizabeth was a ticking timebomb and Tammi played on her vunerability. If Elizabeth freaked out and killed Gabriel or accidently overdosed him with baby tylenol and just took off tossing him in the trash, she will have life in prison.  Tammi guided her and was not forthcoming and honest. I feel at this point Tammi is an accessory.  I hope you folks are right and the police need to call it a homicide to get the funds for the search. But something about them cordoning off the one area makes my stomach feel sick. My prayers are with Logan and his family right now. He needs strength and support.

[darla]

(snipped from Klaas' post!)

McManus said there was no rush to search the landfill “because evidence is not being lost.”


How can he say evidence is not being lost? Everyday that a body is out in the elements evidence is being lost. That statement makes no dang sense.

[no rose colored glasses]

(snipped from Klaas' post!)

McManus said there was no rush to search the landfill “because evidence is not being lost.”


How can he say evidence is not being lost? Everyday that a body is out in the elements evidence is being lost. That statement makes no dang sense.

I'm glad you said that, I'm sitting here shaking my head on that statement 

[darla]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

[stayhomemommy]

(snipped from Klaas' post!)

McManus said there was no rush to search the landfill “because evidence is not being lost.”


How can he say evidence is not being lost? Everyday that a body is out in the elements evidence is being lost. That statement makes no dang sense.

I'm glad you said that, I'm sitting here shaking my head on that statement 

Yes, it's all so confusing. I have to believe that LE is not just laying back doing nothing--Dear God I pray! I can only hope that they know way more than we do and that evidence isn't being lost and that either Gabriel is alive or they know enough to bring to justice those who might have harmed him. 

[Searching]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

[darla]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

Edit: Fix quote. MB
The only drawback to opening a different FB page is you have to give your cell number...I already got 2 messages on my regular FB page asking if I changed my cell number. You can only post after they send you a code to your cell. I don't want to get kicked off by FB. Tammi isn't worth it.

[Northern Rose]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

I have a few choice words myself.  I truly believe that she is the catalyst that set this whole thing off and is more culpable than EJ in all of this.  I would like nothing more than to see the two of them hauled into Texas right now and sit on death row while they search for Gabriel.  It may loosen the lips to tell the truth.  JMO

[Northern Rose]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

Edit: Fix quotes.  MB


The only drawback to opening a different FB page is you have to give your cell number...I already got 2 messages on my regular FB page asking if I changed my cell number. You can only post after they send you a code to your cell. I don't want to get kicked off by FB. Tammi isn't worth it.

I have never given my cell on FB     even for the account I set up to be on Tammi's page with.

[darla]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

Edit: fix quotes.  MB


The only drawback to opening a different FB page is you have to give your cell number...I already got 2 messages on my regular FB page asking if I changed my cell number. You can only post after they send you a code to your cell. I don't want to get kicked off by FB. Tammi isn't worth it.

I have never given my cell on FB     even for the account I set up to be on Tammi's page with.

You are kidding....I had to do it both times I made fake accounts.

[Northern Rose]

San Antonio police: Baby Gabriel case now a homicide

SAN ANTONIO -- The San Antonio police chief announced Saturday that investigators are now treating the case of Baby Gabriel, the Tempe baby who has been missing since late December, as a homicide and a kidnapping.

William McManus said his department is gearing up to search an East Side landfill for the body of little Gabriel Johnson.

"There have been numerous lead that we continue to follow up that hopefully could lead us to Baby Gabriel," McManus said. "We're not 100 percent certain that they will pan out. We are going to search that landfill. The question becomes, 'Why are you searching that landfill if this is a missing persons case?' So, all hopes are that we would find the baby alive, but we are going to proceed with the murder investigation."

McManus said labeling the case a homicide is a procedural step.

The 8-month-old babywas last seen with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, in San Antonio on Dec. 26. Johnson, 23, was arrested in Florida a few days later and then extradited to Arizona where she now sits behind bars at the Fourth Avenue Jail. So far, she's only been charged with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference. She has pleaded not guilty to those charges.

Johnson fled the state with the baby after his father, Logan McQueary, was awarded custody. At one point, Johnson told McQueary she killed the baby. She later told investigators she gave Gabriel to a San Antonio couple, but did not know their names. Police said Johnson has not been cooperating with investigators.

San Antonio police began laying the groundwork for the landfill search earlier this month.  A segment of the 1,000-acre facility has already been blocked off.

According to San Antonio police, McQueary arrived in San Antonio Friday night and met with local authorities there early Saturday.

Today's announcement regarding the homicide investigation came as members of the McQueary family were planning an event to raise money to cover McQueary's travel expenses.

"It is devstating," said Kelli McQueary. "But until we see proof that Gabriel is not with us, we will keep the live search going."

World-renowned private investigator Jay J. Armes has taken on the Baby Gabriel case and has been retracing Johnson's steps. Even though a search for the baby's body is imminent, he believes the child was the center of an underground adoption.

Earlier this month, Tempe police arrested Tammi Smith, a person of interest in the case. Smith and her husband had hoped to adopt Gabriel before Johnson left the state with him. Smith is charged with conspiracy to commit custodial interference and forgery. At this point, police do not believe the Smiths know what happened to the baby.

With Smith's arrest, Tempe police have wrapped up what they can of their investigation.

"Our main goal is to find Gabriel," said Sgt. Steven Carbajal. "We're going to assist San Antonio with what we can ... ."

The search of that San Antonio landfill is expected to begin as soon as weather there permits.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/San-Antonio-police-Baby-Gabriel-case-now-a-homicide-83726297.html

[Searching]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

Edit: fix quotes. MB


The only drawback to opening a different FB page is you have to give your cell number...I already got 2 messages on my regular FB page asking if I changed my cell number. You can only post after they send you a code to your cell. I don't want to get kicked off by FB. Tammi isn't worth it.

I have never given my cell on FB     even for the account I set up to be on Tammi's page with.

Me either but figured maybe it was something new

[Searching]

I guess I better start thinking up a new facebook name.

When you do, please tell her this monkey thinks she should be fried more crispy than KFC chicken.   

I have a few choice words myself.  I truly believe that she is the catalyst that set this whole thing off and is more culpable than EJ in all of this.  I would like nothing more than to see the two of them hauled into Texas right now and sit on death row while they search for Gabriel.  It may loosen the lips to tell the truth.  JMO

I agree and would love to see that myself. TS is a selfish and evil person and I hope she gets what she deserves.

[darla]

Ok...I got it to work without the cell number.......Had to set up another throw away addy.

[can]

San Antonio police: Baby Gabriel case now a homicide

SAN ANTONIO -- The San Antonio police chief announced Saturday that investigators are now treating the case of Baby Gabriel, the Tempe baby who has been missing since late December, as a homicide and a kidnapping.

William McManus said his department is gearing up to search an East Side landfill for the body of little Gabriel Johnson.

"There have been numerous lead that we continue to follow up that hopefully could lead us to Baby Gabriel," McManus said. "We're not 100 percent certain that they will pan out. We are going to search that landfill. The question becomes, 'Why are you searching that landfill if this is a missing persons case?' So, all hopes are that we would find the baby alive, but we are going to proceed with the murder investigation."

McManus said labeling the case a homicide is a procedural step.

The 8-month-old babywas last seen with his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, in San Antonio on Dec. 26. Johnson, 23, was arrested in Florida a few days later and then extradited to Arizona where she now sits behind bars at the Fourth Avenue Jail. So far, she's only been charged with kidnapping, child abuse and custodial interference. She has pleaded not guilty to those charges.

Johnson fled the state with the baby after his father, Logan McQueary, was awarded custody. At one point, Johnson told McQueary she killed the baby. She later told investigators she gave Gabriel to a San Antonio couple, but did not know their names. Police said Johnson has not been cooperating with investigators.

San Antonio police began laying the groundwork for the landfill search earlier this month.  A segment of the 1,000-acre facility has already been blocked off.

According to San Antonio police, McQueary arrived in San Antonio Friday night and met with local authorities there early Saturday.

Today's announcement regarding the homicide investigation came as members of the McQueary family were planning an event to raise money to cover McQueary's travel expenses.

"It is devstating," said Kelli McQueary. "But until we see proof that Gabriel is not with us, we will keep the live search going."

World-renowned private investigator Jay J. Armes has taken on the Baby Gabriel case and has been retracing Johnson's steps. Even though a search for the baby's body is imminent, he believes the child was the center of an underground adoption.

Earlier this month, Tempe police arrested Tammi Smith, a person of interest in the case. Smith and her husband had hoped to adopt Gabriel before Johnson left the state with him. Smith is charged with conspiracy to commit custodial interference and forgery. At this point, police do not believe the Smiths know what happened to the baby.

With Smith's arrest, Tempe police have wrapped up what they can of their investigation.

"Our main goal is to find Gabriel," said Sgt. Steven Carbajal. "We're going to assist San Antonio with what we can ... ."

The search of that San Antonio landfill is expected to begin as soon as weather there permits.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/San-Antonio-police-Baby-Gabriel-case-now-a-homicide-83726297.html

They're calling it a homicide...so sad.

Anyone know what the weather is like in San Antonio - and what weather conditions would be required to begin the search?

[klaasend]

[MuffyBee]

There's been so much rain in the San Antonio area lately, and  some areas have standing water.  I was driving about 30 mi. from San Antonio today, and there's water in some of the fields, and water can be seen draining along the limestone areas that were cut out for roadwork.  So, still a lot of water around.

[can]

Thanks Klaas!   

[MuffyBee]

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=san%20antonio,%20tx&wuSelect=WEATHER

I go to www.wunderground.com & put in city or zip and can get up to date weather.