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Topic: Gabriel Johnson #4 2/16/10 - 2/20/11 (Read 296805 times)
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February 19, 2010 /24-7PressRelease/ -- Custodial Interference and Parental Alienation in AZ
Police arrested a woman in connection with a child abduction case even though she is not a suspect in the child's disappearance.
Instead, Tammi Smith of Scottsdale, Ariz., faces custodial interference charges for her lengthy and repeated pressure to adopt the 8-month-old baby. The legally and emotionally complex world of adoption and parental custody is further complicated by custodial interference and parental alienation.
Courts grant various levels of custody to birth parents, adoptive parents and guardians. Physical custody means the child lives with the custodian at least part of the time, who is responsible for the child's well-being. Legal custody allows rights to decide on schooling, religion and other major factors in a child's life. It may or may not coincide with physical custody. Both types of custody also can be split in joint custody cases.
Parents or other individuals can be charged with custodial interference if they refuse to return a child to the custodian after visitation or otherwise try to deny the right to established custody.
Custodial interference laws vary widely between states. Under Arizona state law, a person who is not the parent or legal custodian can face a Class 3 felony for keeping a child from their legal custodian. This may bring a sentence of up to 8.75 years in prison.
Smith had brief guardianship over Gabriel Johnson, the 8-month-old baby she wants to adopt. After this 10-day period, she allegedly bullied Gabriel's father, forged court documents and tried to have the custody case moved to Tennessee, where the laws might be more favorable to her adoption case. These extreme measures led to a charge of conspiracy to commit custodial interference. A second charge of custodial interference was dropped.
The more common type of custodial interference is one parent keeping the child away from another parent in a joint custody situation. Under Arizona state law, this type of custodial interference is a Class 6 felony, bringing sentences ranging from probation to years in prison.
MORE...
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/press-release/custodial-interference-and-parental-alienation-in-az-137966.php
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Re: Gabriel Johnson #4 2/16/19 -
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Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
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Quote from: Babybear on February 19, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
I totally agree babybear.....If she was given the ring in payment for Gabriel....even trying to sell it would raise all kinds of flags and no way would she get the full price of it. No pawn shop would pay over a 10th of what it is worth.
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Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Babybear on February 19, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
I agree with you both! I am not real impressed with the police work in this case.
I totally agree babybear.....If she was given the ring in payment for Gabriel....even trying to sell it would raise all kinds of flags and no way would she get the full price of it. No pawn shop would pay over a 10th of what it is worth.
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Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
Quote from: Babybear on February 19, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
I totally agree babybear.....If she was given the ring in payment for Gabriel....even trying to sell it would raise all kinds of flags and no way would she get the full price of it. No pawn shop would pay over a 10th of what it is worth.
Snit I got in your quote box so I am posting again.
I agree with you both! I am not real impressed with the police work in this case.
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Quote from: Babybear on February 19, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
It is even stranger when you consider that the government never fails to take the property of anyone that is accused of committing many crimes. Even before you are convicted. Seems like this would be the case here.
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Quote from: Babybear on February 19, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
Hi, Monkeys----I don't understand why the police gave the ring to EJ's grandfather. One would think that under the circumstances they would hold it as potential evidence of several things. It could be stolen, it could be payment for Gabriel or EJ's lawyer. If she owns a $30,000 ring, I don't think she could be considered indigent. IMO there's something funny here. Sorry, but it is inexplicable that the ring was given to the grandfather without establishing ownership. EJ never had a ring like that in her life. It couldn't be legitimately hers.
Hiya— Just fyi, in a news article, the ring was said to be $30,000. But in a news video, Logan stated it was worth about $20,000. Who knows who told him what the value is. According to Logan, EJ may have received the ring in exchange for Baby Gabriel. Rumor has it that Bob Johnson has lost the ring since he picked it up from jail. Can't believe the ring wasn't kept for evidence.
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Quote from: darla on February 17, 2010, 12:41:04 PM
i found the marriage date for Tammi and Jack
SMITH JACKIE D TAMMI F PETERS DAVIDSON 02-14-2004 06923 Reques
Marriages of Jackie D. Smith........not sure which ones...I am posting them so you guys can helf me narrow down the right ones.
SMITH JACKIE D RITA M NOT GIVEN DAVIDSON 07-09-1981 29209 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D HELEN G NOT GIVEN ROBERTSON 12-23-1983 54215 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D CYNTHIA Y NOT GIVEN MADISON 06-28-1985 20505 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D SUSAN N NOT GIVEN DAVIDSON 10-08-1985 40823 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D TINA W NOT GIVEN DAVIDSON 07-08-1986 28628 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D BOBBIE A NOT GIVEN ANDERSON 01-21-1988 00025 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D ROBIN K NOT GIVEN WILSON 05-15-1988 22631 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D MYRA J NOT GIVEN SHELBY 08-11-1989 47282 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D HEATHER WISER MOORE 06-18-1994 46079 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D ANGELA M MCGINNIS ANDERSON 02-23-2000 10421 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D TAMMI F PETERS DAVIDSON 02-14-2004 06923
This is divorces for Jakie D Smith....also not sure which are right
SMITH JACKIE D DELILAH S NOT GIVEN SUMNER NOT GIVEN 06-07-1985 18237 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D RITE M NOT GIVEN RUTHERFORD NOT GIVEN 01-10-1986 01396 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D SUSAN L NOT GIVEN DAVIDSON CIRCUIT 03-29-1988 04541 Request Form
SMITH JACKIE D ROBIN M KILLEN DAVIDSON CIRCUIT 05-22-2000 10879 Request Form
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I understand it's not a good idea to identify oneself in this forum due to it's sensitive nature. Wish I could
. Anyway, I'm looking for info on all of TPS marriages and have come up blank so far on her marriage to Jack-- or Jackie Don. However, I would like to share a piece of info given directly to me and that I intend to verify when I have the chance.
Here is verbatim what I was given:
"Her third marriage was to Mikel Sikora. She was also married to Mikel Sikora at the time she married Michael Riddle."
If this is true, then by law, TPS is/was a bigamist. I found a domestic relations record for TPS with Mikel Sikora (who I believe goes by Michael now) but I could not find a marriage or divorce record.
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Hi Freedom, that is interesting, if you go to this link which is in the previous thread you will find research that some of the monkeys did on her marriages to these two men, it might help.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=search2
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Freedom ......all of Tammi's marriages are posted back in the other thread. And divorces also She and Jack were married 2/14/2004
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I apologize that link did not work use this one
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6945.msg1074168#msg1074168
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Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 10:36:34 PM
Freedom ......all of Tammi's marriages are posted back in the other thread. And divorces also She and Jack were married 2/14/2004
Hi Darla
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Hi Mission and Miss Muffybee......this thread has been so slow for the last couple of days. I haven't found anything more on Jacks marriages as the Tennessee vital records only go back to 1980. But I do have 4 marriages for him confirmed.
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Hi Mission and Miss Muffybee......this thread has been so slow for the last couple of days. I haven't found anything more on Jacks marriages as the Tennessee vital records only go back to 1980. But I do have 4 marriages for him confirmed.
Darla I saw the marriages that you found for Jack which is great because I kept coming up with notta - good work - he was as busy as Tammi in the marriage dept. - I still feel so strongly that they know a lot more than meets the eye about Gabriel's whereabouts. I just do.
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Quote from: Missiontoconvict on February 19, 2010, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 10:40:34 PM
Hi Mission and Miss Muffybee......this thread has been so slow for the last couple of days. I haven't found anything more on Jacks marriages as the Tennessee vital records only go back to 1980. But I do have 4 marriages for him confirmed.
Darla I saw the marriages that you found for Jack which is great because I kept coming up with notta - good work - he was as busy as Tammi in the marriage dept. - I still feel so strongly that they know a lot more than meets the eye about Gabriel's whereabouts. I just do.
I know the one before Robin was Suzanne but can't find when they were married and divorced yet. But give me time. and there may have been another one before Suzanne and after Vicki. Plus I was told Holly Dunn was his mistress for years and all the backup singers on the Grand ole opera got a go round with him at one time or other.
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Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 10:40:34 PM
Hi Mission and Miss Muffybee......this thread has been so slow for the last couple of days. I haven't found anything more on Jacks marriages as the Tennessee vital records only go back to 1980. But I do have 4 marriages for him confirmed.
Thank you for all the digging and work you're doing
darla.
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Quote from: MuffyBee on February 19, 2010, 11:08:02 PM
Quote from: darla on February 19, 2010, 10:40:34 PM
Hi Mission and Miss Muffybee......this thread has been so slow for the last couple of days. I haven't found anything more on Jacks marriages as the Tennessee vital records only go back to 1980. But I do have 4 marriages for him confirmed.
Thank you for all the digging and work you're doing
darla.
YW, I wish I could afford to pay for some of the search sites.
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Sweet Baby Gabriel, I haven't forgotten you sweetheart...l am still praying and still digging.
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Good morning Monkeys! There is an article about a group going to Haiti to do Thermal Imaging. This group helped search for Caylee, Laura Smithers, etc.
http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/search-group-3-view-search-services-to-bring-high-tech-tools-to-haiti/19360779
Why have they not used thermal imaging over the dump that they are searching for Gabriel in? Have a great day!
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Quote from: Sharon/Tx on February 21, 2010, 06:52:40 AM
Good morning Monkeys! There is an article about a group going to Haiti to do Thermal Imaging. This group helped search for Caylee, Laura Smithers, etc.
http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/search-group-3-view-search-services-to-bring-high-tech-tools-to-haiti/19360779
Why have they not used thermal imaging over the dump that they are searching for Gabriel in? Have a great day!
I think the problem would be that so much garbage gives off heat signatures it would not be useful. But I could be wrong on that.
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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