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« Reply #200 on: August 26, 2011, 12:37:47 AM »

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=16967598

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Police search home of Josh Powell

By Pat Reavy And Emily Morgan
August 25th, 2011 @ 8:49pm

PUYALLUP, Wash. West Valley police officers arrived in Washington Thursday to serve search warrants at the home of the father-in-law of missing Utahn Susan Cox Powell.

About a dozen investigators from West Valley and 10 forensics experts and detectives from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office in Washington arrived about 2:45 p.m. Thursday and searched for several hours at the home of Steven Powell, where Susan's husband, Josh Powell, also lives with their two boys.

"This warrant stems from information that detectives have developed during the investigation and there is probable cause to believe that there is evidence inside their home and/or vehicles that will help further the case," West Valley Police Sgt. Mike Powell said.

Merritt confirmed he and his team were looking for specific items, but would not elaborate. The Associated Press reports that three computers were seized from the home Thursday evening.

West Valley police have previously conducted searches at the Puyallup home, but those were conducted with consent from Steven Powell. "This is the first time we've come in here with a search warrant," West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt said.

Merritt confirmed he and his team were looking for specific items, but would not elaborate. The Associated Press reports that three computers were seized from the home Thursday evening.

In order to serve a search warrant, he said, "We have to have probable cause that they (items of evidentiary value) exist and they are in the Powell home or their vehicles."

No one was detained or arrested Thursday.

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« Reply #201 on: August 26, 2011, 01:15:30 AM »

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-josh-powells-sister-says-susan-didnt-feel-safe-near-her-father-20110825,0,4879996.story


Josh Powell's sister wants her father to stop slandering Susan

Aaron Vaughn, Web Producer FOX 13 News

8:45 p.m. MDT, August 25, 2011
WEST JORDAN, Utah

It has been a long few weeks for Jennifer Graves, sister-in-law to the missing West Valley City woman, Susan Cox Powell. She learned that police searched Josh and her father's home and says she would not be surprised if her father knows something.

Graves does not know what to make of all that's happened during the search of her brother and fathers home, but she says it's time for her father and Josh to stop slandering Susan and cooperate with investigators to get to the truth.

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Graves listened to national news reports Thursday as her father and Josh made various media appearances. She listened as her father claimed Susan was flirtatious towards him. Graves says it was just the opposite.

"She didn't care for my dad [Steve Powell]. He had made advances toward her [and] she did not appreciate them," said Graves. "He had straight out asked her if she would be willing to share, he and Josh, could share her."

Graves gave another example of Susan telling her that Graves' father was caught trying to spy on her while she was changing.

Graves has not spoken to her father or Josh and does not plan to. But she believes they are hiding something.

"Stop the slander. Now it's time to move the investigation back to investigation mode it's time to get away from the mudslinging," she said.

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« Reply #202 on: August 26, 2011, 09:58:20 AM »

The words of Susan Powell documented in emails and a notebook one year prior to her disappearance would shed more investigative light than a teenage journal.

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Friends of Powell's told the Deseret News that they have turned over to police e-mails that she sent them last year, in which she reportedly wrote that she feared her husband.

They also said Powell kept a notebook at her work desk that detailed threats allegedly made by her husband in 2008, according to the newspaper.

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« Reply #203 on: August 26, 2011, 11:52:21 AM »

A Double Standard

Powells say police were looking for journals
August 26th, 2011 @ 8:30am


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Friday morning Josh Powell said detectives told him they were looking for Susan's journals - paper and digital copies. Steve Powell said they took his journals, plus video and photographs, as well.

He told KSL he didn't want police to have his journals because they contain "very embarrassing things."  But he said the Powells offered police Susan's journals in 2010 and wanted investigators to have them. He claims they back up the Powells' claims about Susan's character.

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« Reply #204 on: August 26, 2011, 11:55:40 AM »

A Double Standard

Powells say police were looking for journals
August 26th, 2011 @ 8:30am


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Friday morning Josh Powell said detectives told him they were looking for Susan's journals - paper and digital copies. Steve Powell said they took his journals, plus video and photographs, as well.

He told KSL he didn't want police to have his journals because they contain "very embarrassing things."  But he said the Powells offered police Susan's journals in 2010 and wanted investigators to have them. He claims they back up the Powells' claims about Susan's character.

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You've hit the nail on the head imo, Janet.  Double standard!  So Josh & Stephen Powell think it's okay to make public Susan's journals, but Joshy doesn't want police to have his journals   
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« Reply #205 on: August 26, 2011, 12:18:22 PM »


Susan Powell Mystery: War of Words Escalates
Aug. 26, 2011


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(Susan) Powell's sister-in-law Jennifer Graves called claims of a flirtatious and sexually charged relationship made by her father Steven Powell between him and Susan "slander," and called for a return of focus on the search for the missing mom.

"My dad is saying all kinds of things about Susan that aren't true -- Susan wasn't like this. Steven Powell is," Graves said. "At this point we need to focus on the investigation. All the slander is not helping to find Susan -- we need to go back to an investigation mode instead of a mudslinging mode.

"[Susan's husband] Josh and my dad have done nothing to help, they've done a lot of talking but it's nothing to help find Susan. They're not talking to police. It doesn't portray a man who wants to find his wife," she added

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/susan-powell-missing-war-words-escalates/story?id=14385180
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« Reply #206 on: August 26, 2011, 12:27:57 PM »


Susan Powell Mystery: War of Words Escalates
Aug. 26, 2011


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(Susan) Powell's sister-in-law Jennifer Graves called claims of a flirtatious and sexually charged relationship made by her father Steven Powell between him and Susan "slander," and called for a return of focus on the search for the missing mom.

"My dad is saying all kinds of things about Susan that aren't true -- Susan wasn't like this. Steven Powell is," Graves said. "At this point we need to focus on the investigation. All the slander is not helping to find Susan -- we need to go back to an investigation mode instead of a mudslinging mode.

"[Susan's husband] Josh and my dad have done nothing to help, they've done a lot of talking but it's nothing to help find Susan. They're not talking to police. It doesn't portray a man who wants to find his wife," she added

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Could it be that Steve Powell's daughter is speaking from personal experience?

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« Reply #207 on: August 26, 2011, 12:29:56 PM »


Powells say police were looking for journals
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Susan Powell's good friend, Kirssi Holewell, is defending Susan's character. She said Susan feared Steve Powell, that he tried to kiss her and mailed pornography to her after she moved to Utah. Holewell says she told police about it the week Susan disappeared, but she is speaking publicly now because of Steve Powell's allegations that he and Susan had a mutual flirtatious relationship.

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« Reply #208 on: August 26, 2011, 01:31:52 PM »

I hope Steve Powell's journals didn't start AFTER Susan disappeared.

If they did, I would VERY much doubt what's in them... on the other hand, maybe police can make sense out of his ramblings.

I hope LE raided his porn cabinet, where he supposedly kept the journals and Susan's underwear and pictures. He's one sick puppy.

IF he so much detested Susan for putting "moves" on him, keeping mementos of her in the cabinet would prove who's telling the truth (he or her friends.)

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Police-seize-Steve-Powells-embarrassing-journals/RPOwfy0TTEWDbY2Pt_2FSg.cspx

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« Reply #209 on: August 26, 2011, 03:25:45 PM »

I hope Steve Powell's journals didn't start AFTER Susan disappeared.

If they did, I would VERY much doubt what's in them... on the other hand, maybe police can make sense out of his ramblings.

I hope LE raided his porn cabinet, where he supposedly kept the journals and Susan's underwear and pictures. He's one sick puppy.

IF he so much detested Susan for putting "moves" on him, keeping mementos of her in the cabinet would prove who's telling the truth (he or her friends.)

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top_stories/story/Police-seize-Steve-Powells-embarrassing-journals/RPOwfy0TTEWDbY2Pt_2FSg.cspx



 


Police seize Steve Powell's "embarrassing" journals
August 26, 2011


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A day after police from Utah and Peirce County (Washington) served a search warrant at Steve's home, the father-in-law of Susan Cox Powell spoke to the media at an early morning impromptu news conference.

Steve Powell spoke of the "inappropriate" and "sexual" relationship with his daughter-in-law that he documented in his journals, but insisted that the flirtation and "sexually-charged" affair with Susan was initiated by her, and that the journals reflect that claim.

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Police serve warrant to search home of Steve and Josh Powell
August 26, 2011


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Pierce County Sheriffs deputies assisted in serving the search warrant. Troyer confirmed that about 20 investigators have begun searching the home of Steve Powell.

Police wont say exactly what they are looking for but sources tell Q13 FOX News that part of the reason they are here is because of an article written by Isabelle Zehnder with Examiner.com last weekend.

In it, she interviewed a former girlfriend of Steve Powell who told her that he stole a pair of Susans sacred Mormon undergarments and keeps them in a locked cabinet.

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http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-police-serve-warrant-to-search-home-of-steve-and-josh-powell-20110825,0,4176462.story


Finally light shed on why Susan Cox Powell feared her father-in-law
Isabelle Zehnder, Missing Persons Examiner
August 21, 2011


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Steve was very proud of his stash of porn magazines he kept in a locked cabinet in his bedroom. He showed them to me when he lived at his previous Puyallup home, Julia said.

Last fall Julia said Steve boasted that he still had the pair of Susans very sacred Mormon Temple Garment underwear that he stole from the dirty laundry when she and Josh lived at his house at the beginning of their marriage.

Not only did he stash her underwear in his locked bedroom cabinet, he said he stashed her pictures, journals, and porn in there too, Julia said.

In fact, she said, when police went to search his house last fall they missed it Steve told me they never even looked in his locked cabinet so he still has her private belongings, including her underwear.

The girlfriend, who did not want to be named, said Steve was obsessed with his daughter-in-law.

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« Reply #210 on: August 26, 2011, 03:36:48 PM »

Hello Monks--

I'm not given to conspiracies in these cases and often object when something which is entirely unsubstantiated is posted as the truth.  But in this case, it appears that the Powells, father and son are involved in Susan's disappearance and likely murder.  Maybe the son took the children away while his father got rid of the body and cleaned the house, including the rug.  Anyone with any common sense at all knows that Josh Powell is complicit in Susan's murder and it appears to me, so is Steve.

Even if Steve isn't involved in the murder, I can't imagine a father having an affair with his son's wife.  This is such an elementary betrayal of his son.  Bunch of trash, if you ask me.  Well, nobody asked me, but I think they are a pos.  Both of them.
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« Reply #211 on: August 26, 2011, 04:11:03 PM »

Search at Josh Powell's Wash. home wraps up; evidence seized
11:58 a.m. MDT, August 26, 2011


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Police were seen removing computers, boxes and bags from the home.

We have actually been able to accomplish what it is we had hoped we would be able to do, says West Valley City Lt. Bill Merrit. The evidence we collected today is definitely going to further the investigation. If its the key element we are really looking for or not, we cant really comment on that. But every piece that we gather is definitely a piece of the puzzle and helps us to get a complete picture of whats happening.

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« Reply #212 on: August 26, 2011, 05:18:28 PM »

What in the world is West Valley City police Lt. Bill Merritt implying?

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Investigation Renews in Spiraling Missing Mom Case
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Josh Powell is the only person of interest in Susan Powell's disappearance, but he has not been charged or detained. He was allowed to leave the area with their children as investigators went through the property.

Police said the plan to search Powell's home had been in the works for a while -- since before a recent search through abandoned mines in Nevada. A few investigators thoroughly examined a van in the driveway, looking through every CD, flipping through scraps of paper and examining under seats.

Investigators declined to discuss what pieces of evidence they gathered.

"What we have here today will help us draw closer to a conclusion," Merritt said. "Whether it's the conclusion that everybody wants and hopes for, we don't know. It may be a conclusion that nobody wants to admit could happen."

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« Reply #213 on: August 26, 2011, 05:42:40 PM »

I don't know what Lt. Bill Merrit is implying Janet, but in my mind, it adds more questions than it even begins to answer.  JMHO  Quite cryptic. 
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« Reply #214 on: August 26, 2011, 06:11:20 PM »

I don't know what Lt. Bill Merrit is implying Janet, but in my mind, it adds more questions than it even begins to answer.  JMHO  Quite cryptic. 

I agree.

So many high profile missing person cases discussed on the Scared Monkey's site are soooo frustrating.  Strong circumstantial evidence points to persons of interest but ... when all is said and done ... justice for the victims never prevail.

Janet

   
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Police took journals, 'embarassing videos' says Steven Powell
By Pat Reavy And Sarah Dallof

PUYALLUP, Wash. West Valley police say they completed the task they set out to do.

Josh Powell says it was a lot of grandstanding.

West Valley police and Pierce County sheriff's deputies in Washington collected bags and boxes of evidence from the home of Powell and his father, Steven Powell, following a nearly nine hour search Thursday that didn't end until just before midnight.

"We came here with a goal in mind and we accomplished it," said West Valley Police Lt. Bill Merritt.

Josh Powell said the search warrant executed on his home and his vehicles was for his missing wife's childhood journals and any digital information related to her. But he voiced his displeasure Friday at how the search warrant was executed and over what was taken.

"Cooperation is a two-way street," he told KSL at his home Friday. "The way they're treating our family is completely atrocious."

According to Josh Powell, the family offered to turn over Susan Cox Powell's diaries a year ago but police refused. By wanting them now, he believes it shows a change of focus in the police investigation. He believes Susan's diaries will exonerate him once and for all because it will reveal her flirtatious nature.

"I had nothing to do with Susan's disappearance," Josh Powell restated Friday.

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"It's a complete and total abuse of power," he said.

The search involved 13 West Valley police officers and 10 from the Pierce County Sheriff's Office. The West Valley officers met late Friday to go over what evidence they collected but had not yet determined when they would return to Utah, Merritt said.

"This is the biggest investigation that anybody in West Valley Police Department has ever seen and probably ever will see," Merritt said, noting that the amount of data investigators have to look through is enormous.

In addition to his daughter-in-law's journals, Steven Powell said potentially "embarrassing" pictures, videos and journals belonging to him were also seized by police.
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« Reply #216 on: August 27, 2011, 03:15:32 AM »

Evening, all!  Catching up here and reading here http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews. The article states "A few investigators thoroughly examined a van in the driveway, looking through every CD, flipping through scraps of paper, and examining under the seats."  Trying to figure out what these 3 activities have in common and wondering where in the van the CDs and paper scraps were.  Fibers (paper/carpet) come to mind. Under the seats makes me think fibers or dirt particles (it's hard to perfectly clean under seats, due to the sliding tracks the seats sit in and the carpet placement over the car frame).
 
Thinking here of LE's statements that the mine shaft searches "were successful" and the ex-FBI investigator thinking it was a ploy to call Joshua Powell's bluff. Looking at pics of the mine searches here http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=16872231, I was reminded of the media reporting no physical evidence was collected by LE and that the searches seemed cursory. Perhaps physical evidence was collected in the form of dirt samples from the ATV tires, the ropes, the men's boots/clothes, the paperwork (laid upon the rocks, dirt, etc.) at the mouth of the mines when GPS coordinates were being marked. An investigator entered the gated mine that had been breached, with a large searchlight.  Who's to say he did not collect samples while inside? Just because he was not seen carrying samples doesn't mean he didn't take samples.  LE, in searching Susan Powell's home, Steven Powell's residence, the Powell van, or examining the generator, may have found dirt particles containing a very specific mineral found only at one of those mines. If the van had ceiling or floor air conditioning vents, dirt/mineral particles specific to those at the mines may have been imbedded in the carpet under the seats (or in the fabric of the back of the seats/in the ceiling liner). My question is if Joshua took the children on an overnight camping trip in sub-zero weather and used a generator for heat, how did he vent the generator?  He stated they slept in the van.  The fumes alone should have suffocated them, in such a small confined space as a van. Portable generators also produce carbon monoxide (odorless and deadly).  So, why weren't they all dead?  Why was Joshua the only one wind burned?  If (big if), Joshua cracked the windows or left them farther down on the van, shouldn't the boys have remembered and recounted being cold (or be wind burned as well)?  Following through on this thought, wouldn't the van carpet/fabric/seat stuffing/ceiling liner have had detectable levels of carbon monoxide residue from the generator? Operating the generator all night in the van would have left detectable carbon residue (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-carbon-residue.htm). Joshua's van & generator camping trip story is literally unbelievable. If the van components didn't/don't have carbon monoxide traces, he's sunk.  If he actually has/had a generator, I wonder when he bought it?

Thinking a little more, we cannot assume the children were awake Sunday night for this camping trip.  Joshua may have medicated them at some point between Sunday dinner and Monday morning to make cleanup/disposal easier. In previous statements (sorry, no link), LE states that the oldest son corroborated they went on a "camping trip", but we don't know what kind of/how many details the boy gave of Sunday night, Monday morning, or Monday day. It could have been as minimal as "Dad woke us up to go on a camping trip.  We fell asleep in the van/slept in the van.  We woke up and .....".  We can't rule out dear ole' dad (Steven Powell) either.  He may have: aided in Susan's disposal; drugged, sexually assaulted, and killed Susan while Joshua took the boys "camping" to get them out of the house; or come to clean up after the fact while Joshua took the boys "camping" and he disposed of Susan.  Wonder where Steven Powell was Sunday-Friday that week. Joshua or Steven may have temporarily stored Susan's remains somewhere for either (or both) of them to later pickup and permanently dispose of.  Joshua is blatantly lacking the normal level of rage and disgust any man would feel if his father discussed his wife in sexual terms (much less, openly stated the dad & DIL were sexually involved).  As for Steven Powell, pervert is an apt description.  The only person I've ever known to discuss their DIL or other young ladies that way, was found to have molested his step-daughter, attempted to groom his new DIL to molest her, and cheated on his wife.  That man unmistakeably reeked of perversion.  He also got enjoyment talking about how "bad" the "promiscuous" girls were and relating his escapades.  Steven Powell lies about Susan here when he uses both past and present tense language when describing Susan: "We interacted in a lot of sexual ways because Susan enjoys doing that." (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/25/investigators-search-home-missing-utah-moms-husband-father-in-law/?test=latestnews). Clearly though, Steven Powell has sexual issues which lead me to believe sex was a huge issue for Joshua.  If Joshua acted like a control freak jerk, Susan understandably wouldn't be sexually interested.  Can you imagine how that would have gone over with Joshua Powell, given his narcissistic behavior and comments since Susan disappeared? Now factor in his sexually motivated and perverted, controlling dad?  Thoughts of dad giving an angry, spurned Joshua pep talks about his "husbandly rights", come to mind.  Of course, everything would be Susan's fault (as we've already heard from the Powell boys). I wonder if Joshua decided to assert his "rights" and in the struggle, Susan was killed or seriously wounded (necessitating murder to keep her from telling or others from knowing). That would certainly prompt a basement clean-up, an impromptu sub-zero boys-only "camping" trip, a rental car with a couple hundred miles a few days later, and a likely call/message/visit to dear ole' dad.
 
What we do know and can say with all certainty, is that the Powell boys are lying (and badly, I might add). If you love your spouse/DIL and that person is missing, the last thing you're going to do is trash them privately or publicly.  Steven and Joshua Powell are way too "sure" that Susan ran away.  Logic asks: "How can they be sure she wasn't abducted if they weren't there?".  The first thing out of both of their mouths and being rammed repeatedly down their blog readers' throats was the "she ran away with another man" story. The big hole in that story is that the other part of that equation-the man- would be reported missing too by family, friends, an employer, and co-workers.  Suggesting that Steven Koecher (also missing from Utah) is "the other man" is trying to cram a square peg into a round hole. Mr. Koecher's trail just prior to his disappearance is well documented by receipts, banking transactions,etc....none of which place him in Susan Powell's vicinity. Epic fail! In order for there to be an affair, the two people in question have to actually connect electronically and personally.  Judging from what friends, family, and co-workers have told us about Susan, she had neither the time, energy, desire,freedom, nor money to carry on an affair.  All of the above is my own opinion, except news report sources.         
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« Reply #217 on: August 27, 2011, 03:25:31 AM »

Sorry for the looooong post, but enquiring minds want to know.     Time to get off here and get some shut eye.  Take good care everybody!
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« Reply #218 on: August 27, 2011, 07:50:02 AM »

Sorry for the looooong post, but enquiring minds want to know.     Time to get off here and get some shut eye.  Take good care everybody!

ITA - "enquiring minds want to know".  Your post may have been long, but it's interesting.     I believe LE have their eyes on Steve and Josh Powell.  It's my hope LE can find something Steve or Josh didn't clean up or something they failed to cover up in the death & disposal of Susan Powell.  The word "dispicable" comes to mind when I think of the father/son duo.  JMHO

I'm really wondering how much effect the poisonous thoughts and words of Steve and Josh have on the children Josh has custody of right now.  With all the ugly things those two have spewed to the press, I can't imagine how toxic it must be for the children living in the home.   



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« Reply #219 on: August 27, 2011, 11:21:59 AM »

What happened to Josh's mother or his fathers wife. I don't like the idea of those boys
living with that father, he is such a pig. I can see why Josh is so toxic, his father taught him
everything he knew. I bet that big daddy did get rid of her body, after he raped her. I do
hope those boys are taken out of that house.
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