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« Reply #800 on: February 06, 2012, 12:48:39 AM »

 
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« Reply #801 on: February 06, 2012, 12:49:06 AM »

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Community-mourns-horrific-death-of-Powell-boys-3058398.php
Community mourns horrific death of Powell boys
By CASEY MCNERTHNEY, SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF
February 5, 2012

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« Reply #802 on: February 06, 2012, 01:11:06 AM »



http://abcnews.go.com/US/josh-powell-missing-woman-susan-powells-husband-kills/story?id=15518478
Missing Woman Susan Powell's Husband Kills Kids, Himself, in House Explosion
By OLIVIA KATVRANDJIAN, DEAN SCHABNER and COLLEEN CURRY
February 5, 2012


A Pierce County Sheriff's deputy and Graham Firefighters work around the smoldering remains of a house near Fredrickson, Wash., Feb. 5, 2012, where, the bodies of Josh Powell and his two sons are believed to have been found. (AP Photo/ABC)

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« Reply #803 on: February 06, 2012, 01:16:56 AM »

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« Reply #804 on: February 06, 2012, 01:20:22 AM »

King 5 TV reporting that parents and children and school staff going to the grade school and bringing candles, balloons, stuffed animals and flowers. My heart just cries for the Cox family.
I am still in shock by that man's evilness. I hope he is burning in hell right now.

The question that I have for the state of Wa is this. Why do you allow supervised visits in the home of the parent that the children were taken away from? Would not a public or neutral place be more suitable? Maybe they will rethink how they do these visits from now on.
I feel sorry for the woman that took the boys there don't get me wrong. But there is something very wrong in the way this was handled.

We will probably never find out where Susan is now which is very sad in itself. I just pray for comfort from heaven for the Cox family.
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« Reply #805 on: February 06, 2012, 01:24:50 AM »

This seems so surreal.... I am still in shock and have not even really fully digested this yet
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« Reply #806 on: February 06, 2012, 01:27:01 AM »

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What a freaking narcissist....I just can't understand why the supervised visitation was not held in a neutral place IF there had to be any, and I think I must be the luckiest parent in the US after cutting off all contact with my son's dad after the he told me what happened, I read case after case of kids sent back to unfit parents, losing kids (literally), kids missing or dying, and my child escaped from the first day due to my child's psychologist going to court and obtaining an injunction and that was 18 months before divorce/custody hearing....then he was cut off completely and forever. I always thought my case wasn't that abnormal, but it must have been and my heart breaks tonight for the Cox family and so many others who have been down that road of he77. After reading this last pleading, I did go puke.....sick freak from a sick freak, and I swear I hope Steven Powell get's waterboarded for hours and then tossed in a cell with multiple men who loathe baby killers and child molesters.



ETA....I generally say "May God have mercy on your soul", but why lie....not feeling merciful tonight, just angry as hell. He shouldn't have seen those boys period IMO, but if he had to it should have been in the office of a well armed GAL.

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« Reply #807 on: February 06, 2012, 01:46:52 AM »

Horrified and stunned here...and very angry! Josh Powell was a coward in life and in death too.  The reality is, that he premeditated the CPS worker using her cell phone to call for help. In all actuality, that's what sparked the explosion. That's why natural gas suppliers repeatedly warn their customers not to use any phone if they smell gas-to leave the premises and call from somewhere else. IMO, Josh had already spread the accelerant and was merely waiting for her call to explode the house (as he knew it would). Not casting blame on the poor CPS worker whatsoever...I'm pretty sure I'd have done the exact same thing even though I've caught many gas leaks both residential and commercial. Josh was banking on her calling on her cell phone.  She was in a no-win situation.  The fact of the matter is, that Josh was so spiritually and morally bankrupt, he literally exuded evil from the get-go. He knew he could not pass the pyscho-sexual test and time was running out, period.

Every state needs to draft and pass legislation that supervised visitation occur at a Police station. If the situation is serious enough to warrant outside supervision, it's serious enough to guarantee everyone's safety.  A neutral setting is not enough to stop someone bent on killing their children to "win".  There are people out there who would think nothing of walking into a neutral setting and blowing away the CPS worker, their child(ren), and whoever else just happens to be there that day. The only way to guarantee any modicum of safety, is to force the visiting parent to be frisked, etc. and supervised. Every state desperately needs a Charlie & Braden's Law. A supervised home visit gives a home team advantage to the Josh Powell's...completely unacceptable.  I, along with thousands of other people tonight, want to know how Josh Powell passed psychological testing, period. How could psychologists examine him, determine that he "loved " his boys, and he was stable...when the average blogger could see the guy was evil personified? Seriously. Why could we correctly read the flat expressions, the deadpan eyes, the emotional detachment from and overwhelming disparagement of Susan, the narcissism, the rabid antagonism/vitriol toward the Coxes, the dysfunctional lack of outrage at his father's porn stash (including pics of Susan), etc.? Why didn't the professionals read Josh as well as the average Joe/Jane? This case was an epic fail for Susan, Charlie, Braden, the Coxes, and all of Susan's friends.  The man was:
  • POI #1 in the murder of his wife, with a hokey camping-out-in-a-blizzard-with-my-two-small-boys-do-it-all-the-time excuse for an alibi
  • obsessive in his need to repeatedly and publicly trash the victim
  • rabidly verbally attacking the temporary custodians of his sons
  • uncooperative in every way, from the beginning
  • content to expose his children to his porn-fueled father and exhibitionist brother on a daily basis
   
And yet, he was deemed a loving and stable dad by someone in authority. Scary. Now two innocent children, as well as their mother are dead. Epic fail.

As for Josh...as someone else here already said,he was hell-bent on "winning" and revenge. He was indeed hell bent and within seconds was literally there. Josh lost. I believe the boys were in heaven within seconds.  It seems ironic that for someone who was so concerned about protecting his image, with this one act following having to undergo the psycho-sexual testing, Josh Powell unequivocably "confessed" to: killing Susan, being sexually deviant with regard to child pornography, being a psychopath, and a child murderer.

Praying for the CPS Worker, the responders, the coroner, the Coxes, Susan's friends, and anyone who ever helped care for Charlie and Braden tonight.  God already had mercy on Josh's soul...He gave him all this time to come clean...Josh refused the generous offer. All my opinion.
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« Reply #808 on: February 06, 2012, 01:54:11 AM »

Very well stated ISpy.   
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« Reply #809 on: February 06, 2012, 02:13:27 AM »

Very well said ISpy.  I agree they need to hold this visitations at a secure place. I know that some courts have what they call safe rooms for the children when they are having hearings in the family courts. They are very secure and built for the children's safety and comfort. Why not include a safe room for visitations with these sick parents.
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« Reply #810 on: February 06, 2012, 02:27:34 AM »

Very well stated ISpy.   

What I found interesting - is that it was not a CPS officer at all, but a CPS by proxy. The State subs out the job to a private agency.

I didn't even know that they did that. Then, the kids did, what most kids do... run out ahead of you, excited to see their dad...

because they are unaware that their dad is a one-eyed cyclops devil-horned murdering freak... and are under the impression that

he loves them. So sad. One person and one person alone is to blame, though. Rot in hell Josh Powell. Rot in hell, you sad excuse

for a human being. Those who betray the trust of a child - they just don't come any lower than that. Yuk! I hope the kids did not

suffer... and I hope he suffered greatly.
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« Reply #811 on: February 06, 2012, 02:29:26 AM »

I feel the need to say this, so I'm going to.
  • Teach/encourage your daughters to court, rather than to date.  It provides an extra set of eyes and ears to see things your infatuated daughter may not and protect her from making a tragic mistake. It also gives everyone involved the chance to know the families over an extended time period. That's time to look for dysfunctional behavior (such as how women are treated/spoken to, how the guy behaves under pressure/when opposed, the family pecking order, family behavior patterns, how family members relate to one another and outsiders, anything that sets off your personal radar detector, etc.).  Teach your daughters to look for discrepancies in behavior/attitudes.  Teach them to watch, look, and listen carefully.  "Even a child is known by his actions." and "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks."
  • Never encourage your daughter, friend, or family member to go back with a man who has: physically abused her (including pushing); withheld money from her/blocked access to family funds; repeatedly verbally trashed her; and threatened to harm himself/her/any relative to "make the marriage work". There's no such thing as giving him another chance. The problem is not his temper, it's that he doesn't respect or value you as a human being and certainly doesn't cherish you as a gift from God.

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« Reply #812 on: February 06, 2012, 02:30:36 AM »

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Could-Wash-have-done-more-to-protect-Powell-boys-3055081.php

Could Wash. have done more to protect Powell boys?
Updated 10:49 p.m., Sunday, February 5, 2012

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The answers rest largely in that no concrete evidence has emerged publicly linking him with Susan Powell's disappearance, and Josh Powell was never arrested or charged in the case. Josh Powell had custody of the boys for nearly two years after his wife vanished. And it was only because his father with whom Josh Powell and the boys lived was arrested in a voyeurism and child pornography case last fall that the children were taken out of the home and placed with Susan's parents.
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If the older boy started to talk about the night his mother disappeared, did the grandparents' lawyer inform the court?  This matter was beyond mere visitation between a father and sons.  One of the boys might be considered a potential witness to his mother's disappearance and needed special protection? jmo
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« Reply #813 on: February 06, 2012, 02:52:52 AM »

texasmom-Thanks, just sharing your indignation!

Green Eyes- Thanks for the safe room info. I totally agree that police stations should have these. It's naive to think that everyone is above board, playing fair, and beyond reproach in any custody case. It's ridiculously so, in cases needing supervised visits. Obviously, there's some type of safety issue there to begin with.  As many times as children and spouses are killed in situations like this, I'm a little surprised that supervised home visits still happen.

Carpe Noctem- Your post reminded me of what bothered me. I am troubled that the boys were out of the car and running before the CPS contracted worker. I wonder if the CPS contracted worker is the same one each time. Not saying this is the case necessarily, but I could see where a person might unconsciously let their guard down, if the parent's been on their best behavior on all the prior supervised visits and the children seem excited and at ease. I'm not faulting the worker here, by any means. You're absolutely right-fault begins and ends with Josh Powell. Working this forward, how can we prevent a repeat with the next child(ren)? Trying to close the gap here.   

Fellow Monkeys- What say we only post pics of Susan and her boys, in honor of Susan and the boys?
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« Reply #814 on: February 06, 2012, 02:54:07 AM »

MuffyBee- Thank you for posting this wonderful pic of Susan and her boys! We all know who really loved Charlie and Braden.
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« Reply #815 on: February 06, 2012, 02:58:58 AM »

Very well stated ISpy.   

What I found interesting - is that it was not a CPS officer at all, but a CPS by proxy. The State subs out the job to a private agency.

I didn't even know that they did that. Then, the kids did, what most kids do... run out ahead of you, excited to see their dad...

because they are unaware that their dad is a one-eyed cyclops devil-horned murdering freak... and are under the impression that

he loves them. So sad. One person and one person alone is to blame, though. Rot in hell Josh Powell. Rot in hell, you sad excuse

for a human being. Those who betray the trust of a child - they just don't come any lower than that. Yuk! I hope the kids did not

suffer... and I hope he suffered greatly.

Ditto, Carpe.

I pray that those children simply blinked and were with their Mom and God's angels. This whole thing makes my stomach turn. What a miserable, lowlife, coward he was.
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« Reply #816 on: February 06, 2012, 03:06:45 AM »

One can only advice a son or daughter into what to do with their love-life, but it is up to them to choose to heed the advice, or ignore it completely. We were young adults once, and most of us really didn't care what our parents thought of our choice of partners.

We didn't know it then, but we thought we knew everything... but we really didn't.

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What Josh did was confirm that he murdered Susan.

I mean, who kills his babies when things don't go according to his plan? It shows what a control freak he really was, and the hell he must've put Susan through, before he finally killed her.

Hopefully in his personal belongings there are clues to where Susan's body may be.

The one thing not bothering me about this turn of events, is that I know Steven is now suffering almost as much as Susan's parents are at this time.

To the brother who told lies and asked others to lie to get the kids back to the hellish home Josh had setup for them, these kids' blood is in your hands!!!

To Josh's attorney, shame on you if you suspected he was a danger to his children and you did nothing.

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« Reply #817 on: February 06, 2012, 03:29:27 AM »

We cry.   (sorry, can't find the crying monkey)


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« Reply #818 on: February 06, 2012, 03:30:16 AM »

I cannot imagine being the person that delivered those children to the house. My heart goes out to that person, and of course to Susan's parents.

I'm in a situation where I supervise parental visits of a 2 year old that I have custody of. I've had the child for around 6 months, and when the parents came out of jail, the judge allowed visits for them, and simply said, "You supervise the visits." He gave me no guidelines or instructions, just mandated 1 hour every other week and instructed us all to exchange phone numbers to work out where and when. I've always made it a public place, (like a playground) but I give them space, once the toddler is willing to leave my lap and seems comfortable with them.

My God.......... I cannot imagine. My heart breaks for those children and for those who loved them. I know that God has them in His capable hands and may He somehow comfort those they leave behind.

Our society and legal system do not do enough to protect the children. Parental rights are given too much weight. When children are known to be safe and happy, they shouldn't be moved to areas of risk. I'm biased, I know, but that's how I feel.
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« Reply #819 on: February 06, 2012, 03:31:53 AM »

We cry.   (sorry, can't find the crying monkey)


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