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« Reply #1120 on: February 21, 2010, 05:13:25 PM »



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« Reply #1121 on: February 21, 2010, 05:23:22 PM »






original of Paulus and Anita - beach tennis.



looks like he's wearing the same shirt -  Monkey Devil! what say YOU?...
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« Reply #1122 on: February 21, 2010, 05:26:48 PM »


Janet your Canada is beautiful. I love the way they had the campaign to get Canadian athletes on the podium. It worked. Whoever came up with that campaign was genius!
Did you watch Ohno! His dad use to drive from Seattle every weekend so that his son could practice in Canada where the Olympics are being held. Last night he passed Bonny Blairs medal standing. And he still has 3 more events I think.

You know that bridge you talked about that you take your visitors to, the one that wobbels and sways with every step, they are showing it on TV right now. It's a death defying drop. Me, I'd be able to hop it. heh heh

It's a good Sunday Janet, peace be still.




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As a kid I loved that bridge.  Today I hate it with a passion.  If we are entertaining out of town guests and ... circumstances dictate that there is no choice ... I hold my breath and walk as briskly as I can to the other side.  I never enjoy the attractions on the other side.  My mind cannot let go of the reality that the only way I can return to my world as I know it is going back the way I came.

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« Reply #1123 on: February 21, 2010, 05:40:14 PM »


Janet your Canada is beautiful. I love the way they had the campaign to get Canadian athletes on the podium. It worked. Whoever came up with that campaign was genius!
Did you watch Ohno! His dad use to drive from Seattle every weekend so that his son could practice in Canada where the Olympics are being held. Last night he passed Bonny Blairs medal standing. And he still has 3 more events I think.

You know that bridge you talked about that you take your visitors to, the one that wobbels and sways with every step, they are showing it on TV right now. It's a death defying drop. Me, I'd be able to hop it. heh heh

It's a good Sunday Janet, peace be still.




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As a kid I loved that bridge.  Today I hate it with a passion.  If we are entertaining out of town guests and ... circumstances dictate that there is no choice ... I hold my breath and walk as briskly as I can to the other side.  I never enjoy the attractions on the other side.  My mind cannot let go of the reality that the only way I can return to my world as I know it is going back the way I came.

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« Reply #1124 on: February 21, 2010, 05:43:16 PM »






original of Paulus and Anita - beach tennis.



looks like he's wearing the same shirt -  Monkey Devil! what say YOU?...

Bingo!

When Beth went to van der Sloot home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgblqTZJtLo&feature=related

Greta: "They invited us in to stop the cameras."

BETH: "I had to call him out of the bushes."

He [PAULUS] possess knowlege of what happened to my daughter.
I felt 100% certain yes and he knows what happened to Natalee.


GRETA: "She [ANITA] was quite graphic about what her son did with your daughter.
I almost wanted to crawl under the table"



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« Reply #1125 on: February 21, 2010, 06:01:52 PM »






original of Paulus and Anita - beach tennis.



looks like he's wearing the same shirt -  Monkey Devil! what say YOU?...

Bingo!

When Beth went to van der Sloot home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgblqTZJtLo&feature=related

Greta: "They invited us in to stop the cameras."

BETH: "I had to call him out of the bushes."

He [PAULUS] possess knowlege of what happened to my daughter.
I felt 100% certain yes and he knows what happened to Natalee.


GRETA: "She [ANITA] was quite graphic about what her son did with your daughter.
I almost wanted to crawl under the table"





ya mean like this Kerm...







and one just because...

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« Reply #1126 on: February 21, 2010, 06:14:43 PM »

Remember how many times we were told to just have faith in "their system" and that it worked and we would have justice, etc.?

Well, they lied to us.  It didn't work and we have had no justice.  Their system is no good and even a confession on film doesn't warrant so much as an arrest.  No where else in the world would Joran van der Sloot be a free man today.
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« Reply #1127 on: February 21, 2010, 06:29:02 PM »


WHO IS PETER DEVRIES LOOKING AT?


It was fox news. Hannity and Colmes. The spokesman Marianne Croes just told this man that the father is being held because they think he had something to do with her disapperance. The man asked her was it for covering up the disapperance, she said no, directly involved with the disappearance
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1179


MANSUR: There have not been any change of opinion. People, including people in the casino say that is Paul. (Dana Pretzer show December 14, 2006)


Kristina said: “They went to his home for a while
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63326

Geraldo: Did he make any admissions to your undercover?

DW: Well, he made an interesting admission that we haven’t heard before. He said after they left C&C, they didn’t go straight to the beach, they went to his home. The Kalpoe brothers waited outside and he and Natalee went inside for a while
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/10/03/joran-van-der-sloot-they-went-to-his-home-and-the-kalpoe-brothers-waited-outside/



p. 39 – “Prosecutor Karen Janssen told me that the car was facing the racquet club next to the pond. Therefore, it had apparently come from the highway that ran adjacent to the Marriott Hotel. By the time she told me about the position of the car, the prosecutor had begun to believe that the boys might never have visited the beach area on the night of Natalee’s disappearance. (p. 39) Dave Holloway’s book


PATRICK VAN DER EEM: WHAT TIME WAS THIS?

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: 12, three, 2:00.

<snip>
JORAN VAN DER SLOOT: Patrick, dude, I was only with her for two hours, and just like that. Finished. And then she started shaking like that.
(Ford Ranger tapes Dr. Phil Motion to Compel Evidence Exhibit)



May 30 3:35 - hotmail – Joran



Interview With Van der Sloot Friend

DAN RIEHL: What did he do for a living, I've heard he's a judge.

Her: Yes, he judges, sometimes. But not always. I'm not sure what he did before. He traveled a lot, on business, I think.


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Stichting Saxifraga
Saxifraga is voortgekomen uit een initia-
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Foundation Saxifraga
Saxifraga is the result of an initiative
initiative of Jan van der Straaten, who during
holidays are a lot of slides of plants and
beasts made
zijn vakanties veel dia’s van planten en
beesten maakte
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Jan van der Straaten, Tilburg University, The Netherlands
.conbio.org/activities/meetings/2002/website/symposia2.html#Symposium8



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« Reply #1128 on: February 21, 2010, 06:36:13 PM »

Beth Holloway's humility and grace throughout such unimaginable tribulation is such an inspiration to me.  She has taught me that reacting positive to a situation is not always reliant on a feeling ... it is a choice ... an act of the will and ... the determination to following through.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta – October 4, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: It's funny, but I hate looking over there.

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: It is a conscious decision to note everyday not to be bitter. I can't wake up every morning and not make a conscious decision to not be bitter. I want to be positive, I want good things to come of this, Greta.

I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life.

VAN SUSTEREN: And Dave, Natalee's father, (INAUDIBLE)

HOLLOWAY: Not really on a personal level. I do not know how Dave is dealing with Natalee's loss. I do not think that that would be something that he and I would communicate with each other about (INAUDIBLE).

I think we worked really well together as a team for Natalee, and I am grateful for that. As far as where he is in the journey, I couldn't tell you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299356,00.html

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« Reply #1129 on: February 21, 2010, 06:39:14 PM »

Beth Holloway's humility and grace throughout such unimaginable tribulation is such an inspiration to me.  She has taught me that reacting positive to a situation is not always reliant on a feeling ... it is a choice ... an act of the will and ... the determination to following through.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta – October 4, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: It's funny, but I hate looking over there.

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: It is a conscious decision to note everyday not to be bitter. I can't wake up every morning and not make a conscious decision to not be bitter. I want to be positive, I want good things to come of this, Greta.

I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life.

VAN SUSTEREN: And Dave, Natalee's father, (INAUDIBLE)

HOLLOWAY: Not really on a personal level. I do not know how Dave is dealing with Natalee's loss. I do not think that that would be something that he and I would communicate with each other about (INAUDIBLE).

I think we worked really well together as a team for Natalee, and I am grateful for that. As far as where he is in the journey, I couldn't tell you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299356,00.html


Very true Janet. Watched this and it really shows her grace in unimaginable circumstances a true testament to her inner spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgblqTZJtLo&feature=related
(note: in this video is Natalee playing as a child)
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« Reply #1130 on: February 21, 2010, 07:07:32 PM »

Beth Holloway's humility and grace throughout such unimaginable tribulation is such an inspiration to me.  She has taught me that reacting positive to a situation is not always reliant on a feeling ... it is a choice ... an act of the will and ... the determination to following through.

Janet

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On the Record w/ Greta – October 4, 2007

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: It's funny, but I hate looking over there.

BETH HOLLOWAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S MOTHER: It is a conscious decision to note everyday not to be bitter. I can't wake up every morning and not make a conscious decision to not be bitter. I want to be positive, I want good things to come of this, Greta.

I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if I can save another life.

VAN SUSTEREN: And Dave, Natalee's father, (INAUDIBLE)

HOLLOWAY: Not really on a personal level. I do not know how Dave is dealing with Natalee's loss. I do not think that that would be something that he and I would communicate with each other about (INAUDIBLE).

I think we worked really well together as a team for Natalee, and I am grateful for that. As far as where he is in the journey, I couldn't tell you.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299356,00.html


Very true Janet. Watched this and it really shows her grace in unimaginable circumstances a true testament to her inner spirit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgblqTZJtLo&feature=related
(note: in this video is Natalee playing as a child)


Thank you Kermit.  I cried.

Well ... I am off.  Hubby's family is getting together at a restaurant in Vancouver in honor of relatives who are here from Japan for the Olympics.  I cringe when I think about the traffic.  Thankfully ... son-in-law is driving our entire family (13).  He borrowed the church's mini bus.

Good Evening All.

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« Reply #1131 on: February 21, 2010, 07:07:44 PM »

31 seconds into the video is when you first see ANITA then Sebastian and PAULUS:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/uHjatwPyZR8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/uHjatwPyZR8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>
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« Reply #1132 on: February 21, 2010, 07:23:13 PM »

I will never understand how Anita could show up at that event in the bathing suit with the
moon and stars.
At her age and with her shape a nice pair of shorts and a shirt, that wasn't see thru would have
been so much more appropriate.
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« Reply #1133 on: February 21, 2010, 07:48:47 PM »

Let's not forget Tim Miller's statements on the Steph Watts show the other night.

He said that a body was found.  How can we get more information on that?
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« Reply #1134 on: February 21, 2010, 07:49:30 PM »

Are they saying that the fire at Zepp Wevers Funeral home was intentional?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2683&offId=0&offDate=2010-2
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« Reply #1135 on: February 21, 2010, 07:56:05 PM »

Are they saying that the fire at Zepp Wevers Funeral home was intentional?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2683&offId=0&offDate=2010-2

That 's what I get... and there was one body in the freezer and they transferred it to
Momenteum Funeral Home.  Strange timing.
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« Reply #1136 on: February 21, 2010, 08:00:43 PM »

Are they saying that the fire at Zepp Wevers Funeral home was intentional?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2683&offId=0&offDate=2010-2

That 's what I get... and there was one body in the freezer and they transferred it to
Momenteum Funeral Home.  Strange timing.

Yes, strange timing.
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« Reply #1137 on: February 21, 2010, 08:09:08 PM »

Are they saying that the fire at Zepp Wevers Funeral home was intentional?

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2683&offId=0&offDate=2010-2

That 's what I get... and there was one body in the freezer and they transferred it to
Momenteum Funeral Home.  Strange timing.

Yes, strange timing.

I understood the same, that the fire was intentional. 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1138 on: February 21, 2010, 08:11:25 PM »

Let's not forget Tim Miller's statements on the Steph Watts show the other night.

He said that a body was found.  How can we get more information on that?

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1139 on: February 21, 2010, 08:17:07 PM »

I don't think I've seen this before!  It's in Dutch, but is supposedly GVC's (and maybe his sister?) and father's reaction to Joran's confessions.  If anyone here saw it and knows where a translation may be please post a link.  I'd love to know what they had to say.  TIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVnDHaVJHHM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MVnDHaVJHHM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MVnDHaVJHHM&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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