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« Reply #1460 on: February 23, 2010, 03:41:18 PM »

Who feel like mr. Ditch to pump full of lead?



That is only like the best line EVERRRRRR!


Sounds like something straight out of Dr. Seuss book.


I will be repeating it around the house the rest of the week.


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« Reply #1461 on: February 23, 2010, 03:42:43 PM »


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« Reply #1462 on: February 23, 2010, 03:45:16 PM »

Who feel like mr. Ditch to pump full of lead?



That is only like the best line EVERRRRRR!


Sounds like something straight out of Dr. Seuss book.


I will be repeating it around the house the rest of the week.


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« Reply #1463 on: February 23, 2010, 03:53:55 PM »

But, in a statement captured on camera last year by a reality star friend in the Netherlands, the Dutch suspect claims to have dumped the Alabama teen's body in a marsh in Aruba.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/23/earlyshow/main6234203.shtml


RANGE ROVER TRANSCRIPT - DISPOSED

JORAN:  I spoke to him on the phone. On the payphone there.

PATRICK:  From where then?

JORAN:  From the Marriott Hotel.

PATRICK:  And where is the payphone then, in the lobby?

JORAN:  No, no, it is just outside, near the swimming pool.

PATRICK:  Unbelievable, man.

JORAN:  I sit there often. It’s always there that I—

PATRICK:  So then you just left her lying there?

JORAN:  Then—no, listen to this, I took her from the umm—bushy things—what do you call it? You get those—

PATRICK:  —the little huts. You have the boats.

JORAN:  Yeah, but you also have those herbaceous things.

PATRICK:  Yeah, those mangrove-like things.

JORAN:  Yeah, that’s what I mean. Yeah, I picked her up and put her close to the mangrove-like things. And I is said to him: ‘I am here. You must come here.’



In his Suspect statement ... Joran places himself at the Racquet Ball Club as well as the Mariott Beach on the evening of May 30, 2005.

Joran declares that he did not check to see if Natalee was "still lying there" while walking the beach search for his shoes.  Why would Joran's thought process even go there if he did not already know that Natalee was deceased?

Could the mangroves have been a temporary hiding place.  Joran brings up the mangrove bushes in the Road Ranger recording and ... a mangrove swamp was drained on June 15, 2005.

Janet

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USA TODAY - June 15, 2005

Aruban authorities spent several hours Wednesday searching the house of the Dutch youth in the upscale Noord neighborhood. They carried away items in paper bags and cardboard boxes and towed away a blue sport-utility vehicle and a red Jeep.
 
The search came a day after police combed a mangrove swamp near Holloway's hotel. Police suspended that search after pumping water from a drainage pond.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-06-15-missing-teen_x.htm
 

Joran van der Sloot - June 14, 2005 - Suspect Statement

At approximately 19.15 pm I left on foot for the Wyndham Hotel. I was alone. My tennis gear I had left behind the bar at the Raquet club. I had also removed my tennis shoes and left them in the bag behind. I had taken from my tennis bag a pair of slippers and walked away on those. From the clubhouse I walked in the direction of Salinja to the Marriot Hotel. I walked along the same route that Deepak had taken to drop off me and Natalee. At the beach of the Marriot I tried for a little while to find my shoes. They were nowhere to be found. I looked for about two minutes. Then I walked over the beach to the Wyndham Hotel. On the way there I saw a lot of people. I did not go to Fisherman's Hut to see if Natalee was still lying there. I at that moment was more worried about the shoes that I had left behind because I was unaware that Natalee had gone missing.
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« Reply #1464 on: February 23, 2010, 03:56:51 PM »

This is a shot of a note pad taken off of Steph Watts site. I don't know if they were Steph's notes or Greta's. I can make out wire transfer, and the name of Paulus and Dompig. Can anyone make out the rest of it?


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« Reply #1465 on: February 23, 2010, 03:59:02 PM »

This is a shot of a note pad taken off of Steph Watts site. I don't know if they were Steph's notes or Greta's. I can make out wire transfer, and the name of Paulus and Dompig. Can anyone make out the rest of it?




C- Soemers

D - Teacher
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« Reply #1466 on: February 23, 2010, 04:01:20 PM »

1 - Get name of teacher (It is an American Steven ????)

Can't make out the last name.

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Can't read any more of it
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« Reply #1467 on: February 23, 2010, 04:02:44 PM »

Joran Van Der Sloot --- This shit was all I knew you and me only, I did it all for you still you were loney. We coulda have worked things out, but I guess things change its funny how someone elses success brings pain, Im the topic of conversation while I sit and drink wine and watch californication.
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« Reply #1468 on: February 23, 2010, 04:07:55 PM »

Does anyone actually thing Paulus, who hovered over every statement would allow his son to be responsible for disposing of Natalee's body? With so much at stake, it's not possible.

To fool the Aruba Dirty Police you need one of them. It takes one to know one. I for one, think Joran has no clue where Natalee was taken and he didn't rape nor kill her. It's the adults.
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« Reply #1469 on: February 23, 2010, 04:09:25 PM »

1 - Get name of teacher (It is an American Steven ????)

Can't make out the last name.

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Can't read any more of it


Thanks Jen, c looks more like Sorr???? to me.
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« Reply #1470 on: February 23, 2010, 04:11:22 PM »

Latest news on the front page of CNN if it hasn't already been posted!At least it continues to put ARUBA in a bad light!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/23/holloway.van.der.sloot/index.html?hpt=T2
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« Reply #1471 on: February 23, 2010, 04:14:34 PM »

1 - Get name of teacher (It is an American Steven ????)

Can't make out the last name.

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Can't read any more of it


Thanks Jen, c looks more like Sorr???? to me.

YW SuzieQ!

I put an "e" in there, only because my memory is trying to tell me that's the way the guy's name was spelled.

Try looking again without the "e".  Somers.

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So do we think those two names of officers are who Joran stated Daddy had bribed?
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« Reply #1472 on: February 23, 2010, 04:16:35 PM »

This is a shot of a note pad taken off of Steph Watts site. I don't know if they were Steph's notes or Greta's. I can make out wire transfer, and the name of Paulus and Dompig. Can anyone make out the rest of it?




This is all I could get from it:

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« Reply #1473 on: February 23, 2010, 04:16:48 PM »

1 - Get name of teacher (It is an American Steven ????)

Can't make out the last name.

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Can't read any more of it


Thanks Jen, c looks more like Sorr???? to me.

Looking at that last line again, the best I can make out is:

Research:   ??? Prison & Felony

But that's just my best guess.
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« Reply #1474 on: February 23, 2010, 04:18:01 PM »

Much later, Prosecutor Karin Janssen told me that the car was facing the racquet club next to the pond. Therefore, it had apparently come from the highway that ran adjacent to the Marriott Hotel. By the time she told me about the position of the car, the prosecutor had begun to believe that the boys might never have visited the beach area on the night of Natalee's disappearance. (p. 39, Dave Holloway).





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« Reply #1475 on: February 23, 2010, 04:18:39 PM »



Michael Dompig and Kawish Misier
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« Reply #1476 on: February 23, 2010, 04:19:31 PM »

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« Reply #1477 on: February 23, 2010, 04:19:40 PM »

1 - Get name of teacher (It is an American Steven ????)

Can't make out the last name.

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Can't read any more of it


Thanks Jen, c looks more like Sorr???? to me.

Looking at that last line again, the best I can make out is:

Research:   ??? Prison & Felony

But that's just my best guess.

confront Lampe

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« Reply #1478 on: February 23, 2010, 04:22:30 PM »

For those that don't read back:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587216,00.html?test=latestnews

Officials Doubt Natalee Holloway Suspect's Latest Confession


Tuesday , February 23, 2010

Joran van der Sloot, the main suspect in the 2005 disappearance of American Natalee Holloway in Aruba, has made a second confession, according to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.

The confession reportedly came after Van der Sloot gave an interview to a German TV station. (Jaap)

According to the report, Van der Sloot said Holloway's body was hidden in marshes on the Caribbean island. Van der Sloot made the comments to German broadcaster RTL and a second interview is reportedly plannedin Frankfurt this week. In an earlier confession he told reporters he dumped Holloway's body at sea.

He has also claimed in the past that Holloway died accidentally and insisted that he did not kill her.

Aruban justice department officials doubt Van der Sloot's latest confession, telling De Telegraaf that although it has sparked new inquiries into the investigation, "it soon became clear this statement is a mixture of lies and fantasy."

Aruba's chief prosecutor Peter Blanken told NBC News that the suspect's story was "very unbelievable."

A justice department spokesman told De Telegraaf that if Van der Sloot were telling the truth he would name the exact spot where Halloway's body is hidden.

Van der Sloot is thought to be in the Netherlands, where he attended his father's funeral last week.


Holloway, from Mountain Brook, Ala., was 18 when she was last seen leaving a bar in the Aruban capital in 2005 on the final night of a high school graduation trip. No trace of her has ever been found.

thanks Klaas...I read back and am still in a state of pizzed off!!!  I can only imagine the pain this brings to Beth and Dave and all of Natalee's family.....

Also wanted to say this is on the front page of AOL today.

 I was pleased to see so many of the old crew here...a shout to Rob, Robots and Carpe
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« Reply #1479 on: February 23, 2010, 04:23:17 PM »

M 13 PRISON?

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