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« Reply #1520 on: February 23, 2010, 05:20:18 PM »

Well, if the little Sporter is not able to be prosecuted because he is a (pathological) liar and full of "fantasy", then I say he qualifies for TBS.  Vander Straten offered it early on.  He needs to be locked away until he is stable enough to tell the truth.  They can't have it both ways: too unstable to be prosecuted but stable enough to have freedom.  Lock him up in the psych ward until he is balanced.

Surely, even Aruba can make a case for TBS.  They haven't followed up on anything because Joran is nuts.  Case made.
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« Reply #1521 on: February 23, 2010, 05:20:29 PM »

Fell free to say hello if their still in the thread Kermit!

FBI welcome Bon Bon

or whatever it is they say in Aruba.
 
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« Reply #1522 on: February 23, 2010, 05:21:55 PM »

Fell free to say hello if their still in the thread Kermit!

FBI welcome Bon Bon

or whatever it is they say in Aruba.
 


 
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« Reply #1523 on: February 23, 2010, 05:23:05 PM »

Well, if the little Sporter is not able to be prosecuted because he is a (pathological) liar and full of "fantasy", then I say he qualifies for TBS.  Vander Straten offered it early on.  He needs to be locked away until he is stable enough to tell the truth.  They can't have it both ways: too unstable to be prosecuted but stable enough to have freedom.  Lock him up in the psych ward until he is balanced.

Surely, even Aruba can make a case for TBS.  They haven't followed up on anything because Joran is nuts.  Case made.

You are right Buckeye - LOON on the LOOSE should be enough to get an evaluation in a psyche ward.

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« Reply #1524 on: February 23, 2010, 05:24:42 PM »

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« Reply #1525 on: February 23, 2010, 05:25:06 PM »

Search Resumes For Body Of Natalee Holloway (video)


http://www.keyc.com/node/34038

Hmmm, wonder if they are searching?


A search is again under way in Aruba for the body of Natalee Holloway...A German news agency reports Joran van der Sloot, a suspect in the Holloway case, has confessed to disposing of her body.Holloway has been missing since May 30, 2005. She was on a high school graduation trip to Aruba at the time of her disappearance. Her body has never been found.The statements by the Dutch suspect (van der Sloot) were made in front of cameras, and were similar to a confession he made two years ago to a Dutch crime reporter.
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« Reply #1526 on: February 23, 2010, 05:25:24 PM »

They're out to play today,ehh Blonde!
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« Reply #1527 on: February 23, 2010, 05:26:08 PM »

2 - A/6 Holland
(Wire transfer - subpoena power

3 - ??? Arrested
a - Paulus
b-  Dompig
c- Soemers
d - Teacher

4 - Confront ????

Somers.



So do we think those two names of officers are who Joran stated Daddy had bribed?



Your right,  and that is what I was thinking.

I agree 110%
Soemers is someone to look into.

We know Dompig is involved with Kalpoes
his son is invovled with Kawish and Kalpoes
Kawish is involved with Kalpoes and JORAN
he got RV (caps) involved to present the pond hoax.





Lt. Rudy Soemers, of the Aruban police force, in an interview with Greta Van Susteren on August 3, http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164649,00.html stated, “

SOEMERS: You know why? Because — this is my opinion — I don't think she's in Aruba.

VAN SUSTEREN: You think she's alive?

SOEMERS: Yes, and not in Aruba."

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:YdSz1d6_nzgJ:www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/oct/article171.html+Soemers+from+Aruba&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera

Thanks Blonde!

Gee - I wonder how much Eric was paid to say those words?

 
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« Reply #1528 on: February 23, 2010, 05:26:50 PM »

Say hello to Aruba............

two turntables and a **** you

 DJ DJ

 Chef
Hey Aruba..do ya speaka da Robenglish..
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« Reply #1529 on: February 23, 2010, 05:28:21 PM »

That's not the first time a hint like that has been made by an Aruban visitor here, regarding Deepak killing himself.

I wonder if they'll pose him with his hand in his pocket?  Or will be be another suicide by drinking poison?

Are they starting to get concerned? Monkey Devil!

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« Reply #1530 on: February 23, 2010, 05:28:45 PM »

Sorry to just jump in and post and run, gotta catch up. Found this on front page
#26 Gary
Jvds is only telling part truth, they took her
body to six different locations,the marsh was at
Frenchmans Pass and #5,and hidded until eary Sat.
morning, and then taken to her final location, inside the cage that was stolen from F.H. and
hidden in a pond by his house, she is in 15 ft.
of water, now the five fingers are pointing at
Jvds-Guido-Andre-2ks-Flor-Koen-Sander-Beto..
The most common Shark in that area is the Caribbean REEF Shark, where would you go to see
see Sharks????
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/23/joran-van-der-sloot-confesses-again-in-the-death-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba/#comments



interesting! and Andre and Flor are hardly ever mentioned -
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« Reply #1531 on: February 23, 2010, 05:29:44 PM »

They're out to play today,ehh Blonde!

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« Reply #1532 on: February 23, 2010, 05:31:36 PM »

Lifesong - I'm not ignoring your post!!!!!  Doing some digging......
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« Reply #1533 on: February 23, 2010, 05:31:45 PM »

That's not the first time a hint like that has been made by an Aruban visitor here, regarding Deepak killing himself.

I wonder if they'll pose him with his hand in his pocket?  Or will be be another suicide by drinking poison?

Are they starting to get concerned? Monkey Devil!

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Ya think the Kalpoes would be off that hell hole ASAP but,if they wanna take it to the grave,so be it!...
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« Reply #1534 on: February 23, 2010, 05:32:00 PM »

Well, if the little Sporter is not able to be prosecuted because he is a (pathological) liar and full of "fantasy", then I say he qualifies for TBS.  Vander Straten offered it early on.  He needs to be locked away until he is stable enough to tell the truth.  They can't have it both ways: too unstable to be prosecuted but stable enough to have freedom.  Lock him up in the psych ward until he is balanced.

Surely, even Aruba can make a case for TBS.  They haven't followed up on anything because Joran is nuts.  Case made.


Buckeye,

I couldn't agree more!  How can Joran be claiming to have made another human being disappear and continue to make statements like that, true or not, and be allowed to roam as a free person?  What if he decides to make someone else disappear? 

Is he delusional when saying these things?  Does he truly believe he made someone disappear?  Is he this big of a pathological liar?

In any event, if not believable, these are clearly the actions of a person not fully in contact with reality.  He should be being treated for all of this before he makes someone else disappear.

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« Reply #1535 on: February 23, 2010, 05:32:47 PM »

Sorry to just jump in and post and run, gotta catch up. Found this on front page
#26 Gary
Jvds is only telling part truth, they took her
body to six different locations,the marsh was at
Frenchmans Pass and #5,and hidded until eary Sat.
morning, and then taken to her final location, inside the cage that was stolen from F.H. and
hidden in a pond by his house, she is in 15 ft.
of water, now the five fingers are pointing at
Jvds-Guido-Andre-2ks-Flor-Koen-Sander-Beto..
The most common Shark in that area is the Caribbean REEF Shark, where would you go to see
see Sharks????
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/23/joran-van-der-sloot-confesses-again-in-the-death-of-natalee-holloway-in-aruba/#comments



interesting! and Andre and Flor are hardly ever mentioned -
I do believe they moved her many times. Right after Dave & Art search a area they would put her there and keep moving her.
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« Reply #1536 on: February 23, 2010, 05:34:49 PM »

Translated with video clip on page (don't know how to bring over):

We called almost eighteen years ago already: "How are the parents of Joran van der Sloot really feel?". Van der Sloot's father died recently, so we have even more to do with mother van der Sloot. Especially now with her son again is ridiculous hypocritical statements (which already one years old). There you are in your nice house in Aruba with a lot of misery around you and a son that we do not really consistent ...

It's been almost five years since Natalee Holloway disappeared in Aruba. Now, he interviewed according to a statement in the body hidden in a swamp on Aruba. This he says in an interview with 'Terror Jaap' (known from the Golden Cage), an excerpt of which you can see here. In short: a confession. But why is this guy still not arrested?! An expert explains it from below (see second video). RTL5 broadcasts on Sunday, February 28th at 20:30 of the interview with Joran from Terror Jaap, a lie which he answers questions.


http://glamour.blog.nl/famous/2010/02/23/je-zal-de-moeder-van-joran-van-der-sloot-maar-zijn
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« Reply #1537 on: February 23, 2010, 05:37:56 PM »

Ya think the Kalpoes would be off that hell hole ASAP but,if they wanna take it to the grave,so be it!...

someone keeps sending those two chuckleheads a message...

come across
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« Reply #1538 on: February 23, 2010, 05:39:44 PM »

Ya think the Kalpoes would be off that hell hole ASAP but,if they wanna take it to the grave,so be it!...

someone keeps sending those two chuckleheads a message...

come across

"Come across" is a classic quote! 
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« Reply #1539 on: February 23, 2010, 05:42:01 PM »


MESSING WITH THE WITNESS STATEMENTS

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Pages 187/189:
After waiting months to find out what my statement actually says, Jug calls on my first day in California. He has finally been able to obtain the translation of my statement from prosecutor Janssen. The one the detective brought to me to sign late that night in the restaurant. And I trusted him, and signed every page.

“listen to this, Beth …” The words he reads echo in my head. I begin to sink, and could slide to the ground out of my chair. “Jug, they changed it. They changed my statement.”

I had carefully given intricate details about the encounter in the van der Sloot front yard the first night we got to the island, including names and physical descriptions. Now Paulus van der Sloot is described only as “the man with the glasses.”

Those are not my words.

Earlier we learned from the prosecutor that the statements from the two uniformed officers who were with us in the van der Sloot front yard that morning didn’t mention the sexual encounters described by Joran between Natalee and him. No mention of his sexual contact with her as she was falling asleep and walking up. No mention of his description of her underwear and genitalia. So the judge never heard about all that.

There‘s no way a police officer could stand there that morning, hear what Joran was saying, and fail to include these details in a statement. No way. In my opinion this information must have been deleted for the officers.


Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

Page 182:
  The day after our talk with Ms. Flanegan, I had to go to the police staton to turn in the statement that I had given to Dennis Jacobs.  He had given me a copy to go over with my attorney, Vinda.  But, after looking at it, I realized that it was only a page and a half long and had little to do with what we had actually discussed the most, the conversation that I had with Paulus van der Sloot at the prison ...  I had spent a long time with Jacobs, and much of my interview was not in the statement.

When I went back to turn it in and discuss it with him, I was told that Jacobs was in with Jan van der Stratten.

Page 183:  I commented to Jacobs about how short my statement was. He said that I could add anything I wanted to it. Also, I noticed that Eric Soemers's name was on it, but that detective was not even present during the interview. Now I wondered if Jacobs was making up everyone's statement and getting Eric to sign on to them. If that were the case, he could state anything he wanted, and it would look like an official statement made in front of a witness.
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