Natalee Case Discussion #829 2/14/10 - 2/25/10

[Tamikosmom]

Have the following words of Hans Mos been refuted by Tim Miller, Dave Holloway and/or Jossy Mansur?  Did Hans Mos receive the polygraph results.

I cannot not comprehend why the FBI were not involved while the witness was on American soil.  After all ... Natalee Holloway is an US citizen.

Thanks

Janet

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HANS MOS

January 6, 2009
Press Anouncement
Ladies and gentlemen!

Hans Mos:

This witness has turned himself to Dave Holloway, as we have been told. He has given a new statement and has undergone a lie detector test. According to the summary of the lie detector test results (a full report, as promised to my Office by Tim Miller was never received) the witness was considered to be reliable. This Office never questioned the reliability of what the witness claimed to have seen. Yet, the value of his statement in the reconstruction of facts of that night is very limited. With his sole statement this case could never be solved.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/06/aruba-prosecutor-5-page-letter-dont-miss-the-part-where-he-trashes-fox-and-menever-dull/

[texasmom]

http://www.diario.aw/2010/02/autopsia-riba-curpa-di-maiky-farro-lo-a-trece-resultadonan-nobo/


Autopsia riba curpa di Maiky Farro lo a trece resultadonan nobo

Publication: Diamars, 16 Februari 2010. Categoria: General

Palabra ta keda na Ministerio Publico pa desmenti
Lo a descubri substancia toxico cual ta lanta sospecho!
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Tin fuerte indicacion cu aparentemente a drenta informe na autoridad competente relaciona cu resultado cual lo tin di haber cu fayecimento inespera y misterioso di e detenido Maiky Farro. Manera ta conoci Maiky tabata worde sospecha di 7 miyon cu a disparce na Lands Laboratorio durante varios aña.
E caso a sosode durante di e periodo cu minister Booshi Wever tabata como minister y tambe responsabel pa e ministerio di Salubridad Publico.

Ta increibel cu bao di su maneho esaki lo por a tuma lugar y nunca e no a asumi su responsabilidad.

Na cualkier pais un minister encarga pa su cartera den e caso aki salubridad publico a tuma su retiro. Ta imposibel cu un suma asina gigante por a disparce y te ainda no tin un claridad completo, con y cu kendenan el a comparti esaki.

Durante cu Maiky lo tabata encarcela den KIA, direpiente el a sinti malo y hasta a suministre medicina, cu via telefoon aparentemente e dokter a notifica e broeder of esun encarga cu asina yama dokters kamber.

E condicion di e detenido a bira peor y cu urgencia a transporte pa hospital y den un tempo relativamente corto Maiky a fayece.

E morto repentino di Maiky a lanta basta stof den seno di su amigonan y conocirnan el a worde hopi comenta. Hasta bao di su coleganan di laboratorio.

E morto di Maiky ta keda un misterio awor cu aparentemente a drenta resultado di un que otro relaciona cu e autopsia no ta exclui lo bay start cu investigacion profundo.

Den pasado caba tabata tin un caso tambe di un homber hulandes cual segun su conocirnan e victima John Maas a worde venena. Esnan cu a plama e informe a haya despues di basta aña razon.

Hasta for di Hulanda autoridad local a haya asistencia y a saca e cadaver for di su graf y investigacion a confirma cu e victima a worde intoxica.

Sospecho a bay den direccion di su casa of ex casa y te dia di awe apesar e ta biba aparentemente na Canada y no a worde localiza pa duna cuenta na husticia. A duna di conoce cu Aruba no tin tratado cu e pais en cuestion.

Locual ta e caso Maiky si enberdad cu a descubri substancia toxico cual ta lanta e sospecho cu aki lo por ta trata di substancia cu a pone su curazon worde afecta of su sistema cu e consecuencia fatal.

Posiblemente e lo sa hopi cos y e lo tabata dispuesto pa divulga. Pa evita esaki no ta exclui cu a preveni pa e basha abao. Ya cu no ta trata di un suma considera como “chicken feed” pero uno gigantesco.

Palabra ta keda na Ministerio Publico pa desmenti e informe cu e ultimo dianan ta circula pa asina tambe trece claridad relaciona cu e rumornan persistente cu ta keda existi cu e morto repentino di Maiky.

Through translator (Pap,Spanish):

autopsy on Curpa of maiky farro will resultadonan
Owing to thirteen new publication: Tuesday, 16 Feburary 2010.
category: general

word is for stay at public ministry denied it will Owing to toxic substance which is discovered arise suspicion! Oranjestad (AAN): cu apparently have strong indication Owing to enter report at related authority which will have ea result of having cu fayecimento unexpected and mysterious of the arrested maiky farro. as is known maiky Worde was suspected of 7 Miyone cu Owing to disparce at lands laboratory during several year. Owing to the case of the period during sosode cu booshi wever minister was because; minister and also responsible for her ministry of public health. increibel is maneho cu bao of his dog did this will never take place and the not Asumi Owing to his responsibility. cualkier country at one minister responsible for his portfolio in the public health case here did take his retirement. is impossible sum cu so one can Owing to disparce giant and still not have one till complete clarity with and cu past kendenan Owing to this compartment. cu during maiky will was jailed in kia, all of a sudden past Owing to feel bad and even Owing to provide medicine, cu apparently via telefoon Owing to the doctor notifies the responsible isa cu broeder or so calling Dokters bedroom. the condition of the detainee Owing to become worse and urgent cu Owing to transportation for hospital and in one relatively short time maiky Owing to fayece. the sudden dead of maiky Owing to arise enough stof in breast of his past conocirnan amigona and much Owing to word says. even beam of his coleganan of laboratory. the dead of stay is one enigma maiky cu now apparently Owing to enter another result of one that relates cu do not excluded the autopsy bay will start deep research cu. in past cases have one end was also one man of his Dutch conocirnan which the victim according maas john Owing to word poison. Owing to esnan cu plama the report Owing to Achieve year after of enough reason. even for local authority of the netherlands Owing to Achieve Owing to assistance and takes the corpse of his cemetery and for research confirms cu Owing to the victim Owing to word intoxicated. Owing to suspicion bay in the direction of his home or former home and till day of today Despite the apparently live at canada and not Owing to word located at husticia for give account. Owing to give of known cu cu aruba not have treated the country provided that question. whichonly is the case if enberdad cu maiky Owing to discovery toxic substance which is arise the suspicion will cu here is deal of substance can cu Owing to place his Worde curazon cu affect the system or his fateful consequence. possibly know much cos the will and the will was prepared for reports. for preventing this do not excluded cu Owing to pour ABAO preventable for her. cu do not already deal of one sum considered because; "chicken feed" but one giant. word is for stay at public ministry denied it the report cu the late Diana is also circulating for so thirteen clearly relates the rumornan persistent cu cu cu is stay there the sudden dead of maiky.

Sounds like they suspect Maiky was killed

IIRC there was a Miami connection to this case too.  I'd have to look back to refresh my memory but it seems like there may have even been an arrest in connection with this case.

[texasmom]

IIRC a few women were involved in the Lab scandal also. Wonder if they are getting nervous. 

Yes, last names Geerman and Vrolijk

Imagine that!   

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_68819.php

Google translation:

Record number of arrests

February 16, 2010, 12:48 (GMT -04:00)

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ORANGE CITY - The police had their hands full Sunday. During and after the big carnival parade in Oranjestad 75 arrests. The big parade in San Nicolas, which took place last Saturday, went quiet. There were only four people arrested.

According to police spokesman Papito Comenencia was arrested yesterday at 52 tit-for-tat policy of the Public Prosecutor (OM) applied. Most of the arrests were made Sunday after five hours. The police had already announced that, due to recent incidents of carnival events, a very strict zero-tolorance policy would apply.

The arrests were made for assault, vandalism, public drunkenness and other unacceptable behavior. Offenders were arrested and brought before the Public Prosecutor. Then they got a fine imposed or, if they could not immediately be met, a subpoena. During a special meeting on April 8 carnival should they occur. If the fine is paid, the carnival is the strafeis session significantly higher. The prosecution last year the tit-for-tat policy on sixty defendants applied. Of eleven published when the judge.

Red Cross
The volunteers of the Red Cross had 38 incidents last weekend with it. The men ranged from blistering to people who had become so ill they had to the hospital. It involved three people, including one man who had a heart attack during the parade. In most cases, alcohol was the major culprit, let coordinator Steve Croes of the Red Cross know. The aid agency says, however, to look back with pride on the past weekend, mainly because of the tremendous efforts of volunteers. Director of the Red Cross, Michel La Haye does emphasize that the agency still can use help. He hopes that the people that the operations of the volunteers last weekend have seen this to be inspired to sign.

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_68773.php


Government definitely guarantees re-opening of The Aruban Resort

12 Feb, 2010, 13:01 (GMT -04:00)

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The AVP and MEP parties step in after the scuffle between Juan David Yrausquin, Melvin Tromp and Booshi Wever.

ORANJESTAD — The Aruban government will definitely act as guarantor for a loan of 1.4 million florins to The Aruban Resort. The Minister of Tourism, Labor and Transport, Otmar Oduber (AVP) will come up with legislation supporting the guarantee-agreement within sixty days. The Aruban Resort should be operational again within a few months.

The parliament had unanimously agreed to support this initiative last Tuesday. Yesterday, during the continuation of the States-meeting, which had been adjourned on Tuesday due to a verbal escalation between Ministers Oduber, MEP party-leader Booshi Wever, States-member Ady Thijsen (MEP) and States-chairman Andy Lee (AVP), the motion had finally been adopted. Pedro Atacho (PAR), the Antillean politician investigating whether a proposed cabinet formation will succeed, was invited as guest, and employees of The Aruban Resort were seated in the gallery. Three motions were up for treatment. A first motion from MEP on a job guarantee for all employees of the hotel was withdrawn, but was re-introduced in adjusted form as the third motion afterwards. This third motion was also rejected. The second motion from the AVP regarded the surety standing and adopted unanimously.

Scuffle
The feelings between the MEP and AVP parties had become heated again just before the voting, which had led to a short but fierce scuffle between the AVP States-members Juan David Yrausquin, Melvin Tromp, and MEP party-chairman Booshi Wever. Wever had attempted to bring forward a point of order, while Minister Oduber had been answering a question. States-chairman Lee indicated that the Minister still had the floor. In protest, the MEP-party decided to leave the meeting room, whereupon Yrausquin shouted to Wever: “Running off, uh, coward”. Wever responded with “Bo mama”. Yrausquin, who took the remark as an insult towards his mother, bore down on him, followed by Marlon Sneek (AVP) and Melvin Tromp (AVP). This was followed by a scuffle, whereby Tromp gave Wever a hard push against the shoulder. Other States-members of both parties soon intervened and called upon parliament-chairman Lee to restore the order. The meeting continued after a short interval. Shortly afterwards, Yrausquin offered his apologies and Wever indicated there are only losers in these kinds of situations.

Lee, who had emphasized the upholding of order and discipline in the States during his appointment as States-chairman, announced that there was no point in adjourning the meeting again, after this physical escalation. “The meeting had already been postponed previously and we really should continue.” AVP-chairman René Herde said the voting was a victory in spite of the incident between the two parties. He announced he would personally come up with proposals during the course of next week in order to avoid such escalations in the future.

[jen3560]

IIRC a few women were involved in the Lab scandal also. Wonder if they are getting nervous. 

Yes, last names Geerman and Vrolijk

Imagine that!   

Is Aruba cleaning house? 

[AZSunny]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_68773.php


Government definitely guarantees re-opening of The Aruban Resort

12 Feb, 2010, 13:01 (GMT -04:00)

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The AVP and MEP parties step in after the scuffle between Juan David Yrausquin, Melvin Tromp and Booshi Wever.

ORANJESTAD — The Aruban government will definitely act as guarantor for a loan of 1.4 million florins to The Aruban Resort. The Minister of Tourism, Labor and Transport, Otmar Oduber (AVP) will come up with legislation supporting the guarantee-agreement within sixty days. The Aruban Resort should be operational again within a few months.

The parliament had unanimously agreed to support this initiative last Tuesday. Yesterday, during the continuation of the States-meeting, which had been adjourned on Tuesday due to a verbal escalation between Ministers Oduber, MEP party-leader Booshi Wever, States-member Ady Thijsen (MEP) and States-chairman Andy Lee (AVP), the motion had finally been adopted. Pedro Atacho (PAR), the Antillean politician investigating whether a proposed cabinet formation will succeed, was invited as guest, and employees of The Aruban Resort were seated in the gallery. Three motions were up for treatment. A first motion from MEP on a job guarantee for all employees of the hotel was withdrawn, but was re-introduced in adjusted form as the third motion afterwards. This third motion was also rejected. The second motion from the AVP regarded the surety standing and adopted unanimously.

Scuffle
The feelings between the MEP and AVP parties had become heated again just before the voting, which had led to a short but fierce scuffle between the AVP States-members Juan David Yrausquin, Melvin Tromp, and MEP party-chairman Booshi Wever. Wever had attempted to bring forward a point of order, while Minister Oduber had been answering a question. States-chairman Lee indicated that the Minister still had the floor. In protest, the MEP-party decided to leave the meeting room, whereupon Yrausquin shouted to Wever: “Running off, uh, coward”. Wever responded with “Bo mama”. Yrausquin, who took the remark as an insult towards his mother, bore down on him, followed by Marlon Sneek (AVP) and Melvin Tromp (AVP). This was followed by a scuffle, whereby Tromp gave Wever a hard push against the shoulder. Other States-members of both parties soon intervened and called upon parliament-chairman Lee to restore the order. The meeting continued after a short interval. Shortly afterwards, Yrausquin offered his apologies and Wever indicated there are only losers in these kinds of situations.

Lee, who had emphasized the upholding of order and discipline in the States during his appointment as States-chairman, announced that there was no point in adjourning the meeting again, after this physical escalation. “The meeting had already been postponed previously and we really should continue.” AVP-chairman René Herde said the voting was a victory in spite of the incident between the two parties. He announced he would personally come up with proposals during the course of next week in order to avoid such escalations in the future.

www.arubanresort.com

Resort Temporarily Closed.

December 14, 2009

Dear Timeshare Owners,

The Management and Staff of The Aruban Resort & Casino regret to inform you of the immediate closing of the resort, including all Hospitality, Casino and Sales & Marketing operations. Management is endeavoring to relocate, reschedule and/or cancel all reservations for the period of December 14, 2009 - January 31, 2010, to other resorts on Aruba, subject to availability.

Due to the fact that the local utility companies turned off the water and electricity to the Resort this afternoon, no telephone or other communication with the Resort will be possible. Please contact ARCmembers@live.com, as The Aruban server is no longer operational. For Reservations, please contact ARCreservations@live.com.


We deeply regret this turn of events and would to assure all of the timeshare owners that Management is working extremely hard and diligently to secure refinancing for the project, despite the resort’s recent financial problems and worldwide financial crisis. Unfortunately, this has not been made any easier by the litigation brought on by a small group of timeshare owners. Regardless, we continue our efforts to complete the recapitalization of the project.

Please refer to this web site for updates on a regular basis.

Thank you,

KL Resort Development Company N.V.

[Anna]

"Bo momma!"


 

Aruban statesmanship at its finest!

[texasmom]

"Bo momma!"


 

Aruban statesmanship at its finest!

This one was even better imo!   

[texasmom]

http://www.awemainta.com
Link for Booshi's picture on the front page giving the finger.

[texasmom]

This is a few of the news clippings I could find about the Maiky Faro case.  He was sentenced April 3, 2009...and was dead by June 29, 2009.

http://www.awemainta.com/

[jen3560]

Thanks TxMom.

Is that middle pic on the bottom seriously a woman named "Jack"?

 

[texasmom]

These are some older articles.  Faro's sentence was reduced to a little over 4 years iirc. 

When you see "merry" and/or "cheerful"...that should be Vrolijk; it changes with translation in some instances.

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54133.php

Google translation:

Aruba
Requirement eight years imprisonment for fraud suspect Landslab
March 19, 2009, 14:51 (GMT -04:00)


ORANGE CITY - By Maiky Faro, main suspect in embezzlement of millions florin of the Land Laboratory, the prosecutor demanded eight years in prison.

The officer has accomplices Yolanda Vrolijk and Jacqueline Geerman respectively four and three years imprisonment demanded.

Merry may Geerman and five years for public works. Faro is in the retirement age. The judge is ruling on April 3 leading in this case. Depending on what the court decided, would cheerful and Geerman, now at large again in the cell should.

The public demanded a high prison for Faro based because he considered that this proven ten million florin has darkened and he shows no remorse for what he did. As the head office of the Land Laboratory, the main suspect decade falsified invoices and purchase orders of an existing company in the United States (U.S.) of which he was director.

The officer has an accomplice Geerman 32 checks in the U.S. which they collected 455,000 florin has gathered. There is evidence that significant amounts of money they have paid into the bank account of her child, and that its power has grown since 2002 with more than 300,000 florin. Merry between 2002 and 2007 a total of 232,000 florin received on its behalf. The officer believes that it is not the truth in order to obtain the money to talk.
 

False rumors
During the treatment of the fraud, the prosecutor argued that rumors were circulating on the financing of the election of political party MEP by Faro prime suspect in the fraud money. According to the officer, these are false rumors because research has shown that this is not true. From that research has shown that Faro a large part of the millions he lost in a decade, has spent.


http://64.251.10.117/~einforma/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=151:investigacion-ta-mustra-cu-sospechosonan-a-haya-balent-placa-y-hasta-un-auto-for-di-malversacion-na-landslaboratorio&catid=1:policial&Itemid=2


Research icon shows cu ta Balent sospechosonan to have even a car plate for di na Landslaboratorio embezzlement         

TUESDAY, 10 MARCH 2009 21:21

ORANJESTAD - E tratamento di e criminal case against Yolanda Vrolijk and Jaqueline Geerman Ayera above shows a guideline to maint Placanica strong di nan cu a cu Vrolijk ricibi and even what to have a car.

Tur and Placanica aki ta di ta be suspected embezzlement from di e di 10 florin for di Landslaboratorio Miyone. E prime suspect Mario Faro only give room a while keda di pa Wordo interoga Court as a witness and then by a return KIA.

Prosecutor to present a maint Ayera procesverbaal container documentonan cu cu ta na bank market to deliver financial transaccionnan di cu tabata tuma place.

Investigacionnan to above shows among other Jaqueline Geerman cu tabata na bay plate for Miami while Yolanda Vrolijk cu e tabata pa Pagoda Percuro di via Department Finance and Central Bank pa e keda realistic companianan cu ta not really exist.

Miami Geerman pa tabata bay chequenan changes and sends pa cu e tabata Landslaboratorio ghost companianan e aki tabata riba Placanica deposit and your account. Using credit card and gave her a plaque lanta for di tabata e cuentanos di bank. In total cu notes Geerman period to give a 78 thousand dollar used.

For di e investigacionnan realistic notes to keda cu for di 2003 Geerman tabata pa viaha Miami hanging around and regularly collects chequenan tabata na nomber di companianan cu Landslaboratorio to pay. E nomber di e companianan false e aki tabata tabata plate yega serca Geerman Kende esakinan deposited after tabata riba its banking cuentanos na Merca. Hues to be above shows cu ta di 300 thousand dollar papia cu yiu Geerman and riba tabatin Muhe account.

Geerman belied her guilt to give embezzlement and Hues bisa cu e tabatin panja and one negoshi di tabata pa cumprida viaha Miami bay merchandise.

The supplication to cu Mario Lighthouse for acerk'e pa di su yiu plate for Homber. Di and form different Biaho Geerman aki tabata pa plate thirteen Faro.

According Geerman e no tabata sa cu tabata tuma embezzlement place. Categorically denied it and the statement to Faro di nan cu cu tabatin another relationship.

Ta asina cu na Aruba, seized a quantity Landsrecherche to plate riba di di Geerman account. Hues tabata kier sa unda e di sali aki a plate. According Geerman plate Esaki ta e di di panja negoshi.

After a sigui cu Hues Yolanda Vrolijk, Kende ta tell you categorically denied it plate for di Faro pa cu Yuda and embezzlement. Sinembargo to confirm the Faro di tabata Yuda and Pagoda has priority pa na di Department Finance and Central Bank.

Hues to senjal cu cu Vrolijk Lighthouse to declare one Yaris nobo cumprida yud'e to 14 thousand dollar deposit account di riba e yiu di Vrolijk. In total papia ta di 84 thousand cu florin Yolanda Vrolijk what to have.

Vrolijk to keda cu denied it on a word pay. The a bisa cu riba the board to have his bank account but no ta pa Yuda esey Faro.

Hues of the a states mustr'e cu na Yuda Landsrecherche pa cu e tabata Faro has payment.

Dia 17 di Maart as interesting as bira dia cu e sa y what has castigonan kico ta e ta bay cu demanded pa Prosecutor Mario Faro, Jaqueline Geerman and Yolanda Vrolijk. Ta keda asina slope

[texasmom]

Thanks TxMom.

Is that middle pic on the bottom seriously a woman named "Jack"?

 

It should be Jacqueline or Jacky.  But maybe she was "Jack" at one time. 

[texasmom]

I came across this while looking for some of the info I posted.

 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4697.msg727804#msg727804

[Anna]

I came across this while looking for some of the info I posted.

 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4697.msg727804#msg727804

 

I had forgotten about the one-size only ziplock bags information.

Yep, crazy as a soup sandwich was right!

[Anna]

TxMom,

On this story, Booshi was the director of that lab and even though millions of dollars involved, he didn't get any jail time?  Wouldn't he be the one signing the checks, I wonder?  I guess that's what all the uproar was over?  How much does that translate to in U.S. dollars?

Anyone know?

It sounds like quite a lot of money and only four years jail time? 

[texasmom]

TxMom,

On this story, Booshi was the director of that lab and even though millions of dollars involved, he didn't get any jail time?  Wouldn't he be the one signing the checks, I wonder?  I guess that's what all the uproar was over?  How much does that translate to in U.S. dollars?

Anyone know?

It sounds like quite a lot of money and only four years jail time? 

Booshi was never even charged with anything!   


http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_54833.php

Google translation:

Lower penalty for official Farro, Minister negligent

3 Apr, 2009, 16:19 (GMT -04:00)

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Maiky Farro this morning sentenced to four years and six months imprisonment. After deduction of the ruling means that Farro about four years in jail to.

ORANGE CITY - The former administrator of the Land Laboratory, Maiky Farro was this morning sentenced to four years and six months less for cell arrest. This is significantly lower than the requirement of the Public Prosecutor (OM), which the court to eight years imprisonment, as requested. The judge accused the minister responsible, Booshi Wever, also to have been negligent. Fraud official could be ten years undisturbed course.

The official was prime suspect in the embezzlement of 5.8 million dollars (over 10 million florin) of tax money from the Land Laboratory in the period 1997 to 2007.

The court considered all the facts which Farro accused was proved and rejected him as the main responsible for in Aruba 'unprecedented large-scale fraud drafted the budget of the health affects. The Agricultural Laboratory and the responsible minister by the court the accused to have been negligent. There was nobody Farro in any way controlled by the government and the fraud came only after years and only by coincidence above water. If, within the Land Laboratory more attention would be given to safeguards and controls against fraud, the damage this is likely to have been limited, said the judge. With all this the court has taken into account in sentencing.

The fraud at the Land Laboratory was more than a decade to continue undisturbed. The public was around that time busy with the proposed incorporation and the opposition against it. Adjustments in the organization were postponed and there was insufficient expertise in financial matters. The director himself said that he had nowhere to light and the Minister had unsuccessfully urged appointment of an auditor.

Only the end of 2007 was the Landslab declaration of the large-scale fraud by alternate director, who discovered the fraud. Farro was at that moment already fled to Colombia. The DA issued an international warrant out in March last year resulted in the arrest of the suspect in Miami. Farro, the Land Laboratory millions cheated by placing orders to non-existing companies in the United States. He lived according to the court 'on incredible big foot "and was apparently to" complete moral decay "hit.

The award of the two co-defendants Yolanda Vrolijk and Jacqueline Geerman follows next week Tuesday.

Extradition
The court, the Public Prosecutor (OM) inadmissible. The lawyer Farro found the suspect for more facts than those for which he was prosecuted in the U.S. was delivered. This would be called for the specification of the extradition law violated. The OM, however, prove that the accused had done away his rights in relation to the extradition treaty. Farro's lawyer in the U.S. has signed documents and, as stated in the declaration, the suspect of his rights to be informed.

[klaasend]

I came across this while looking for some of the info I posted.

 

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4697.msg727804#msg727804

OMG, yes...a prime example     I will say I think she means well just doesn't know any better I guess.

[klaasend]

Lie detector test   - Jenny Geerman


http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf