Natalee Case Discussion #829 2/14/10 - 2/25/10

[Kermit]

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My Great Uncle started the first school in Rison, Arkansas.  I wonder who that is?

Casa

Of course!!

And SS is sometimes Colonia, NJ?

Signed in as Capslockwizard, however THIS IS THE GUY THAT EMAILED CAPS TO COME TO OUR BLOG

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[Nut44x4]

I remember Deepak's words like it was yesterday.... 

[Nut44x4]

******** Just a note to Klaas/Mods......Doubtful I'll be up for the thread lockdown/change tonight.

[Tamikosmom]

If Anomino and Caps are the same ... Anomino's comments expose the real Caps.  A TROLL!!

Caps is an obvious adherece to the Aruban agenda ... the ATA/AHATA agenda ... the Mark Purcell agenda ... the Julia Renfro agenda and ... the Rene Gielen agenda of undermining Beth Holloway's every word, action and motivation but sparing Dave Holloway.

Janet

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ANOMINO AKA CAPLOCKWIZARD


Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating
#22  Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:17 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen;

I have been looking for some place where I could leave some of my comments without leaving my name. We still have people in Alabama who will burn things down if things don’t go their way.

Without using any four letter words I can assure all of you have some valid points in expressing what you think happened. There are a lot of people out here who feel the same way. There are still a lot of questions which need answering.

I can assure you that the FBI is aware of all your concerns. They are looking at it from every angle. What happened in Aruba was supposed to have stayed in Aruba. Then the cameras showed up! This was when Beth knew they were in trouble. Her words, not mine.

As soon as the FBI can make an Alabama connection the case will become a federal case.  You did see how fast the Investigators up here put the finger on those three college boys who burned down those churches didn’t you?

Well, I waited 16 months to find something which I can confide my suspicions in.

There were over a million comments posted on the Internet during this period. I feel that someone with a computer and a little knowledge about the teen who vanished in Aruba will also confide in this web site as long as they can be sure their idenity is safe.

Some other school mates who either saw, or heard, something about what happened down there.

I believe this enough that I am willing to stick my neck out and start posting some of the things I know about the case which have not been brought up on any of those cable news networks.

But first ask your self this question ? why is Beth and Jug no longer together. I, too, have asked that question. I think Jug butted out when Beth went running all over the country promoting this International Safe Travels thing. She lost a lot of her support here.

Some things are a matter of public record. Marrages, divorces, and ownership of property. Do you know what a prenup. is?

The reason why it was kept in Aruba is because as long as it stays down there the FBI can’t toutch it. If a connection with the USA can be made, then it will become a federal case.

The mother took the daughter to some meetings on how to behave in a foreign country. Then she dropped her off at a friend’s house for the flight to Aruba.

Then the socer mom took off with two friends to a lake house in Hot Springs, AK 5 hours north of B’Ham! And for three days no contact with Aruba. Then for 4-5 hours after the teen did not show up for muster the mother gets a call from one of the adults on the trip.

Question. How is it possible that the mom can make the same day flight to Aruba while on the same day the kid was missing? How quick she was to get everything together, travel 5 hour from Hot Spring, pack, make a sign, and flight to Aruba.

Question. When she arrived in Aruba, what Written Sign She was holding in Her Hand?

“MY DAUGHTER WAS KIDNAPED SIGN”

How did she know she was kiddnaped…?? Answer these questions please.

If the mother had of wanted to lollygag around a pool some where she could have gone on the trip too if she was that concerned about the safety of her daughter.

Two of the girl’s step cousins were on the same trip. Don’t you think they were the designated drivers? Or the look outs? One even fingered Joran as having played cards with some of the teens from MB.

Has any one of you ever been on a beach alone with a young woman? Have you ever tried to get a drunk to do something they didn’t want to? Then join the Army and travel a little. You’ll see.

This is all for now. If I get some response then I will start asking the hard questions the cable news didn’t ask. You can ask some good questions too. The good ones will be forwarded to the FBI in Alabama who are working on it too.

Nathalie Price $1000.000.00 and second price 250.000.00 to tell something

A Long time has past and the poor people in Aruba never came to claim the price… Aruban, Dutch, American, Surinam living in an expensive island where 50.000 are over 50 yr old and where 25000 are of school age and 50000 65yr and up on pension and none of them will like to win the lottery. Ask yourself why?

Is it that because they have to much casino and 1,000.000.00 will not make a difference or is it that they have done so much money laundry that they do not need a million or so to boost up their portfolio or is it that they are so corrupt that they do not see a Million Dollar…???????

The reason they are not coming forward is that no-one has seen or hear anything or is it that they are afraid of the 3 alleged perps that have hurts their island so much that they are afraid of them?,
or is it this question

IS IT THAT THIS IS ALL A FABRICATION FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM AFTER 5 OR 10 YEARS?

Where the players are all connected and waiting for time to tick away to 2010.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/

Hotshot
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
« Reply #202 on: December 04, 2008, 03:07:37 AM »

... You guys are going to look really silly in the end for downing the people like silvetti, and Kyle, and CAPS.  There must be more to do with your time then pick on the ones who actually go out of their way to help.  I do not see anyone here going out there to actually help as these people did ..

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4186.msg565899#msg565899

[Kermit]

CAPSLOCKWIZARD - note different IP.

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[BUCKSHOT]

Exactly Janet, her body would have been moved by the 31st or June 1. 

Klaas

I am a believer that Natalee Holloway's body was moved ... unknown to Joran, Deepak and Satish ... on the morning of May 30, 2005 ... moved to Lorenzo's home by Paulus, Steve Croes and GVR (White Pickup).  This all occured following a frantic call from Joran, Deepak and Satish informing Paulus that Natalee was deceased.  The three were sent home and ... Paulus took over.

I contend that Natalee Holloway's remains ... wrapped in a tarp ...  were placed in the trap and not taken out to sea until days later.

What led to the search if the Mangrove Swamp on June 14, 2005?  Could it have something to do with the June 10th confession?  At that time ... whoever confessed had no idea that Natalee Holloway body had been moved.

NO BODY!  NO CASE!

IMO

Janet

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NANCY GRACE - July 29, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
 
JOSSY MANSUR: There`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html


Thursday, June 16, 2005 at 04:53 AM in Natalee Holloway | Permalink | Comments (270) | TrackBack (2)

On Natalee's Yahoo forum there there is a report that a helicopter is searching Santa Lucia area because according to the cell phone records of one of the three suspects there was a call in the Santa Lucia area at 6:30 am the morning Natalee was to have met up with the group to leave for airport.

Santa Lucia is in Santa Cruz....pass the Ayo Rock Formations.... Right where they have the Donkey sanctuary on map on 2nd page of map Body maybe somewhere around area of Ayo Rock Formations.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/week24/


private eye
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #714 1/20 -
« Reply #312 on: January 22, 2008, 08:43:21 PM »

While I think that was excellent logic, I think that possibly the only difference I believe is that the boys buried her by the fishermans hut, and Paulus and Co moved her without the boys knowledge because of Joran's confession and the fact the boys recorded conversation  indicate they don't know where she is now. Also, if Lorenzo is involved, maybe Guido was there only the party was at Lorenzo's?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2532.msg331268;topicseen#msg331268


FOX News - June 11, 2005

David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159252,00.html


CBS News - June 10, 2005

Holloway's family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that "something bad happened" to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/10/national/main700829.shtml


The Jamie Skeeters' Interview - Transcript

Deepak Kalpoe:

We don’t know where the body is. ... 

If I knew where the body is, I would tell them a long time ago. Let
them start a trial and get this over with.

http://scrux.com/natalee/skeetersseg6script.htm

Nobody knows exaclty for sure what happened...
But this theory eliminates Paulus from being directly involved in the (premeditated) murder...
Only an accessory after the fact..

[Kermit]

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[Tamikosmom]

Nobody knows exaclty for sure what happened...
But this theory eliminates Paulus from being directly involved in the (premeditated) murder...
Only an accessory after the fact..

No necessary Buckshot.

I suspect that Paulus may have been present with Joran, Deepak, Satish and the sons of the elite at the van der Sloot residence.  A drugged Natalee is sexually assaulted and ... then the plan is for Joran, Deepak and Satish to take her to the beach where she would sleep it off ... make her way back to the hotel to pack and ... catch her flight home with no recollection of what happened.

It probably had gone without incident many times before.  However ... Natalee suffers a seizure and dies.  The three "boys" panic ... hide the body ... drive across the street to Racquet ball Club ... call Paulus.

Janet


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'Scarborough Country' - August 26, 2005

LISA DANIELS, GUEST HOST: Yes. But I just can‘t get away from the fact that the Kalpoe brothers arrested today, Freddy arrested today. It has to mean something. There has to be a master plan here. What are you hearing about that?

JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, “DIARIO”:  Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.  What I do know is that Freddy was questioned at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran. And then he was released. And now he‘s arrested as a suspect of selling photographs.  Maybe they are aiming to get to him through this photo business back to the Holloway case.

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/

[BUCKSHOT]

Nobody knows exaclty for sure what happened...
But this theory eliminates Paulus from being directly involved in the (premeditated) murder...
Only an accessory after the fact..

No necessary Buckshot.

I suspect that Paulus may have been present with Joran, Deepak, Satish and the sons of the elite at the van der Sloot residence.  A drugged Natalee is sexually assaulted and ... then the plan is for Joran, Deepak and Satish to take her to the beach where she would sleep it off ... make her way back to the hotel to pack and ... catch her flight home with no recollection of what happened.

It probably had gone without incident many times before.  However ... Natalee suffers a seizure and dies.  The three "boys" panic ... hide the body ... drive across the street to Racquet ball Club ... call Paulus.

Janet


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'Scarborough Country' - August 26, 2005

LISA DANIELS, GUEST HOST: Yes. But I just can‘t get away from the fact that the Kalpoe brothers arrested today, Freddy arrested today. It has to mean something. There has to be a master plan here. What are you hearing about that?

JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, “DIARIO”:  Well, if there is a master plan, we will know about it soon enough.  What I do know is that Freddy was questioned at the beginning with relations to the Natalee Holloway case. He offered an alibi, I believe, to protect Joran. And then he was released. And now he‘s arrested as a suspect of selling photographs.  Maybe they are aiming to get to him through this photo business back to the Holloway case.

DANIELS:  It definitely smells that way.  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
MANSUR:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/

Tamikosmom,

You rock !!!

Thanks,
BUCKSHOT

[kpg]

Destiny is in Norcross, Ga?  She would be very close to the Gottenbos family's location.  Too close for comfort.

[Ono]

CONGRATULATION AMERICA!!!

 

http://www.vancouver2010.com/

   Thanks!

[Magnolia]

Destiny is in Norcross, Ga?  She would be very close to the Gottenbos family's location.  Too close for comfort.

I think she said one time that she knew someone in their neighborhood.

You know, I 'll bet Casa teaches at that school in Rison, Arkansas and stays on the computer when
she should be working.

[Tamikosmom]

Somehow ... I think that Joran's latest "confession" is probably closest to my theory of what took place that evening.

Anyways ... American friends have just returned from touring the Interior of British Columbia for a couple of days.  I assume we will have an evening of hearing all about their adventures and hopefully they have taken lots of photos.  Eldest son, DIL and grandson are arriving from Vancouver Island in the morning sometime.  Second visit in two weeks.  Maybe next week ... some sense of routine will return to our home.

Good Night All.

Janet
7:45 PM PT

[texasmom]

Destiny is in Norcross, Ga?  She would be very close to the Gottenbos family's location.  Too close for comfort.

Yea, the Gottenbos' should be on the lookout for Destiny....and Karma. 

Can't hide behind the couch from those two.   

 

[kpg]

She is an habitual liar.  Like I said, too close for comfort.

[cajun miracle]

Help!!! I've got this jumping screen again and don't remember what Wreck told me about fixing it. Can someone help, please?

[texasmom]

Help!!! I've got this jumping screen again and don't remember what Wreck told me about fixing it. Can someone help, please?

I can't remember cajun miracle!  It's something about the compatability settings I think...maybe in internet tools?

[klaasend]

Help!!! I've got this jumping screen again and don't remember what Wreck told me about fixing it. Can someone help, please?

I can't remember cajun miracle!  It's something about the compatability settings I think...maybe in internet tools?

Right  - compatabiity mode

I stopped usuing IE all together because I was having so many problems with it.  Have had almost zero problems with Firefox.

[crazybabyborg]

MOD could you edit the above post to fix the link and add CnG site meter
Thank you so much.

Kermit - what is the date on the CnG?

That was back when it was infiltrated.
ribbit

Hi Monkeys! 
  Johnson City, TN is listed............... that's my neck of the woods, but I never went to C&G and when I'm on it says Kingsport.  BOC wasn't involved with C&G, was he?

[cajun miracle]

Help!!! I've got this jumping screen again and don't remember what Wreck told me about fixing it. Can someone help, please?

I can't remember cajun miracle!  It's something about the compatability settings I think...maybe in internet tools?

Right  - compatabiity mode

I stopped usuing IE all together because I was having so many problems with it.  Have had almost zero problems with Firefox.

Thanks TXmom and Klaas. I fixed it last year and only had problems since yesterday. Now I have no clue what's up. It only happens on SM!!