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« on: February 14, 2010, 08:14:52 AM »





Truth & Justice for Natalee!
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 10:26:37 AM »

Holy crap - I'm first.

That's never happened before!

 
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 10:30:39 AM »

If you look at that pic of the Gottenbos boat in that Freebird doc Klaas posted on pg 98 of the last thread......

We were told that the FBI received a flimsy type material from that cage to compare to Natalee's blouse, and some sort of rubber type material.

Running around the back/sides of that boat, you can see a rubber type material.

A deer friend of mine had a boat similar to this one once, and says about the rubber strip:


If I remember correctly that is made up of a bunch
of maybe 3 foot sections that slide
into a very thin chrome strip at the top and bottom of it.
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Could be that a part of this rubber runner got snagged by the cage during its descent, and that rubber piece was still attached to/inside of the cage on Jan 7 2008.

*BTW, a damaged prop (what Rosalie Klien told us was wrong w/the Gottenbos boat) could have happened from sliding a cage off the back as well.
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 10:59:50 AM »

If you look at that pic of the Gottenbos boat in that Freebird doc Klaas posted on pg 98 of the last thread......

We were told that the FBI received a flimsy type material from that cage to compare to Natalee's blouse, and some sort of rubber type material.

Running around the back/sides of that boat, you can see a rubber type material.

A deer friend of mine had a boat similar to this one once, and says about the rubber strip:


If I remember correctly that is made up of a bunch
of maybe 3 foot sections that slide
into a very thin chrome strip at the top and bottom of it.
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Could be that a part of this rubber runner got snagged by the cage during its descent, and that rubber piece was still attached to/inside of the cage on Jan 7 2008.

*BTW, a damaged prop (what Rosalie Klien told us was wrong w/the Gottenbos boat) could have happened from sliding a cage off the back as well.


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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 11:02:02 AM »

Thanks Klaas!
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 12:27:51 PM »

If you look at that pic of the Gottenbos boat in that Freebird doc Klaas posted on pg 98 of the last thread......

We were told that the FBI received a flimsy type material from that cage to compare to Natalee's blouse, and some sort of rubber type material.

Running around the back/sides of that boat, you can see a rubber type material.

A deer friend of mine had a boat similar to this one once, and says about the rubber strip:


If I remember correctly that is made up of a bunch
of maybe 3 foot sections that slide
into a very thin chrome strip at the top and bottom of it.
*****

Could be that a part of this rubber runner got snagged by the cage during its descent, and that rubber piece was still attached to/inside of the cage on Jan 7 2008.

*BTW, a damaged prop (what Rosalie Klien told us was wrong w/the Gottenbos boat) could have happened from sliding a cage off the back as well.

Excellent deductions.
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 01:18:51 PM »

Lifesong - previous thread.

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Thanks, Jen!

I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore, but I'm just gobsmacked!! Dompig?!!  I guess he's been working overtime to earn that bribe money....sheesh.

 

And when you toss in a dose of Kath8700 aka Dadofthree aka Hotshot - you have the makings of a real mess. She almost got a search stopped by TES by claiming she was some sort of affiliate / team member... and TES was almost escorted off the island.

I know I keep harping on this assclown, but good Lord, she should be in jail.  who knows just how much damage she has really done - and I bet she did it out of the goodness of her heart and didn't take a florin. 

she worked directly for Dompig. No ifs, ands or buts.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 01:28:14 PM »

My thoughts on the bribes have kind of been like this - there were the initial bribes from Paulus to a few cops - probably Burke, Dompig and who knows who else...Paulus had van der Straaten and Oduber in his inner circle - so no need to bribe them. He had stuff on Jacobs and a few other rotten to the core apples in the polis department.. so he leveraged that.

but to keep the cover-up going there were always more bribes from the AHATA. They paid some people in the US and Holland to continue the distraction. I imagine these were mainly people that worked in the ATA offices here in the states.

They also gave away free trips and comped some losers to just keep making a mess -

Then there were some kind of pay-offs to people like Purcell and Renho.
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 02:20:31 PM »

Could there have been payoffs to Project Lead on the Persistence ...payoffs that do not leave a money trail.  After all ... the finale' to the Aruban coverup that has prevented justice from prevailing since the getgo for Natalee Holloway could not have happened without this man's cooperation.

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The important thing is to raise funds. It will require corporate support as well as private donations. Dave and Beth have been doing a great job getting the word out and while I was on the island, Dave put me in contact with the head of the Hotel Association who is working on raising a sizeable amountSo many on the island are supporting our efforts as well as people from all over the world. The media really blew the cage out of proportion. Although the cage initially provided some moments of "what is in there", I warned all on board that none of this information was to leave the boat. It was very suspect that a cage of this size was found where it was on the seafloor relative to the coast. My feelings were this was highly unusual and probably had something to do with something, but not what we were after. It was decided that the cage would be investigated further by divers, however, it was designated as only a target of interest. The crew moved onto other targets. Unfortunately, inexperience and frustration led to premature statements, including that we had found her I don't think anyone was more upset than I that this information came off the boat and caused the Holloway family more grief!

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Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:
  John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.


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"But sharing information with people who work for people who are directly orchestrating the cover up, Rudy, or the Dutch, is the most irresponsible investigating I can imagine.

Waste of Time and Effort
 
"If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy.

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Great catch on the song lyrics Blah!   
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 05:19:40 PM »

Joran Van Der Sloot
We coulda split this whole thing up 50/50, but now im at the 40/40 getting tipsy
Tue at 7:31pm

Joran Van Der Sloot
Poppin a bottle of Nemiroff.. I hope this shit is good.
Yesterday at 4:00pm

Anita Hugen
Watch your language................
Yesterday at 6:43pm


Kill yourself, Anita. It will never get any better. It's like you are driving an out of control
Toyota. He thinks he's a rapper.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 05:21:10 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 05:25:26 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   


I do!!!! Kinda like Hoke telling Miss Daisy to slow down.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 05:35:16 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   


I do!!!! Kinda like Hoke telling Miss Daisy to slow down.

 
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 05:44:18 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   


I do!!!! Kinda like Hoke telling Miss Daisy to slow down.

What I find interesting is neither one of them appear to be grieving in any way, shape or form.  Sporter is carrying on with his go nowhere, do nothing life - and Mama is salivating over meeting Richard Gere.

Something is not adding up here...
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2010, 05:47:57 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   


I do!!!! Kinda like Hoke telling Miss Daisy to slow down.

 

just when you think your level of revulsion has reached it zenith - the slootie sluts make a mockery of all things normal...

wonder if Dana will be telling Anita Van Der Hugggggel to tone it down before she becomes low-class... 

btw- looks like every goon child in da haus be gettin' tipsy! 
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2010, 05:48:03 PM »

Does anyone know if the clubs there still take pics on the weekends?  If so, I'll be interested to see if Sporter is in any of them - and who he's with.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2010, 05:51:41 PM »

Thanks jen and blah.


Does anyone else find it a bit ironic that Ms. "Reincarnation" is telling the Sporter to watch HIS mouth??   

 

it's like the car has gone off the road, smashed through the front door of the hospital, burst into flames, and now she is reaching to put her seat belt on!

Is this European driving?? 
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2010, 05:53:21 PM »

Does anyone know if the clubs there still take pics on the weekends?  If so, I'll be interested to see if Sporter is in any of them - and who he's with.

As far as I know they do, I'll look around some. 
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2010, 05:54:53 PM »

It seems Julia Renfro doesn't like her wall comments make more public than they were.  Now her facebook is private and it doesn't come up.  Marlene Purcell did the same thing about a week ago. 

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