Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[texasmom]

Good nite all!

Good night Rob!   

[Anna]

Good nite all!

Goodnight, Rob!

[Keepthefaith]

I know being a pessimist is an oxymoron considering my nic but,do enough research at SM and one would think you could come up with many plausible scenarios that have been discussed a million times.Disinformation specialists live on,and the wheels on the bus go round and round!JMOO.......

PERSISTENCE & THE CAGE

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

I know, I know, I know!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:
It just seems that it adds up more than anything we have seen in the past. I really want to believe that with Paulus now gone, we might see some people really coming to the forefront.

Wreck.Your theory has been VERY plausible W/O Gary,and or anyone else adding anything to it.I'm sure one of the smart,clever monkey's will find a way to get in touch with Gary to come on over to the Monkey Cage.Me thinks it would be very interesting to say the least.I look forward to seeing Gary on the thread if at all possible.As you well know i've been skeptical of Tim Miller's relationship with Silvetti & Schaefer.My prayers,and my faith goes into believeing that Tim Miller is working for the authorities to bring justice in the END but,what do i know?I'm just a person,behind a monitor,that wishes Natalee justice!


KTF

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Natalee's Candles

Let's keep the lights on.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

    Thanks to the faithful.

[wreck]

I know being a pessimist is an oxymoron considering my nic but,do enough research at SM and one would think you could come up with many plausible scenarios that have been discussed a million times.Disinformation specialists live on,and the wheels on the bus go round and round!JMOO.......

PERSISTENCE & THE CAGE

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

I know, I know, I know!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:
It just seems that it adds up more than anything we have seen in the past. I really want to believe that with Paulus now gone, we might see some people really coming to the forefront.

Wreck.Your theory has been VERY plausible W/O Gary,and or anyone else adding anything to it.I'm sure one of the smart,clever monkey's will find a way to get in touch with Gary to come on over to the Monkey Cage.Me thinks it would be very interesting to say the least.I look forward to seeing Gary on the thread if at all possible.As you well know i've been skeptical of Tim Miller's relationship with Silvetti & Schaefer.My prayers,and my faith goes into believeing that Tim Miller is working for the authorities to bring justice in the END but,what do i know?I'm just a person,behind a monitor,that wishes Natalee justice!


KTF

I just had along response --and accidentally erased it!!

I have ALWAYS thought our FBI knows a helluva lot more than they have let on -- especially about the cage. I just did not ferret out the Silvetti nonsense.
As for Tim Miller, I think he knows a helluva lot more than we think as well. I truly think he is genuine in his beliefs and desires. I also think Tim Miller would LIE to us or the press to protect what he is told in confidence. I am bolstered by just a few things that Tim has "let slip" in recent weeks. -JMO

[Lifesong]

I know being a pessimist is an oxymoron considering my nic but,do enough research at SM and one would think you could come up with many plausible scenarios that have been discussed a million times.Disinformation specialists live on,and the wheels on the bus go round and round!JMOO.......

PERSISTENCE & THE CAGE

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH

I know, I know, I know!!  ::MonkeyNoNo:
It just seems that it adds up more than anything we have seen in the past. I really want to believe that with Paulus now gone, we might see some people really coming to the forefront.

Wreck.Your theory has been VERY plausible W/O Gary,and or anyone else adding anything to it.I'm sure one of the smart,clever monkey's will find a way to get in touch with Gary to come on over to the Monkey Cage.Me thinks it would be very interesting to say the least.I look forward to seeing Gary on the thread if at all possible.As you well know i've been skeptical of Tim Miller's relationship with Silvetti & Schaefer.My prayers,and my faith goes into believeing that Tim Miller is working for the authorities to bring justice in the END but,what do i know?I'm just a person,behind a monitor,that wishes Natalee justice!


KTF

I just had along response --and accidentally erased it!!

I have ALWAYS thought our FBI knows a helluva lot more than they have let on -- especially about the cage. I just did not ferret out the Silvetti nonsense.
As for Tim Miller, I think he knows a helluva lot more than we think as well. I truly think he is genuine in his beliefs and desires. I also think Tim Miller would LIE to us or the press to protect what he is told in confidence. I am bolstered by just a few things that Tim has "let slip" in recent weeks. -JMO

I agree with this!

I am encouraged by both the latest word we had from Beth through Red, that things were going on behind the scenes and it is not over, and the slip that Tim made a week or so ago regarding male DNA in the cage.

This isn't over.  Paulus is dead and that could still prove to be a game changer.  Joran is back in Aruba, that could be a game changer.  Joran has proved himself yet again to be a wildcard to any and all of his accomplices, that as well could be a game changer.

Anything could happen now...or nothing at all.  Still...I am encouraged.  I hope he keeps talking!  I hope he keeps posting obnoxious lyrics and thinks he's immortal.  I really hope he keeps daring people to take him down.

[klaasend]

I was looking for my photos of the KLPD search of the Sloots, I think it was April 28, 2007.  Anyway, didn't find those but I found this 

[Keepthefaith]

I agree LifeSong...Let's not interrupt the ol' sporter...

"Never interrupt your enemy when Joran is making a mistake."
Napoleon Bonaparte

Ok,ok..I changed the quote!

[Anna]

I wish Andre would be more forthcoming and speak up if Joran is just throwing him under the bus.  I would hate to see him branded for something he didn't do and we only have Joran's word for it that Andre ever even laid eyes on Natalee.  Odd, meeting him in the dark like that.

Joran is no friend to anybody except Joran.  If I were Andre, I would spill the beans, drop a dime and sing like a canary, lol.  That's my gangsta talk in case you can't figure it out.

[Lifesong]

O   M   G!


Still catching on the old threads during the coma.  I just got to here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5807.msg916909#msg916909

    

[klaasend]

I wish Andre would be more forthcoming and speak up if Joran is just throwing him under the bus.  I would hate to see him branded for something he didn't do and we only have Joran's word for it that Andre ever even laid eyes on Natalee.  Odd, meeting him in the dark like that.

Joran is no friend to anybody except Joran.  If I were Andre, I would spill the beans, drop a dime and sing like a canary, lol.  That's my gangsta talk in case you can't figure it out.

I agree Anna

[klaasend]

O   M   G!


Still catching on the old threads during the coma.  I just got to here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5807.msg916909#msg916909

    

Ya 

[Lifesong]

O   M   G!

Still catching on the old threads during the coma.  I just got to here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5807.msg916909#msg916909

    

Ya 

 

I know its silly but its killing me that I can't respond in that thread and join in the discussion! Comas suck.   

[billb's daughter]

Posted on the front page of SM just now:

gary
Submitted on 2010/03/03 at 3:19pm

The reason jvds has included Andre in his new lie, is only because he was involved in moving her body to alhambra shopping center at address #56, called Aruba Textile Care at 3:00am Mon. morning, Guido got out of Dodge, now Andre needs a new alibi, the body was picked up from the pond area (where the gardener seen them) at 2:40am, and taken there. they will really squirm when I take them on the Boat ride on 6/4/05 at 1:50am, and tell them about the problems they had trying to sink the cage ..

Just catching up but wanted to say...I wonder if Textile care has blue tarps??

[texasmom]

Truth and Justice for Natalee!

That's what it's all about Aruba,

We won't give up!

[billb's daughter]

Good night Good Monkeys....
Justice for Natalee...
It will be interesting to see where this Gary poster takes us.....

[Sharon/Tx]

What if someone in Aruba does want to come forward but does not know how to safely?  Obviously, people go missing in Aruba and even when bodies are found, their DNA is not checked or matched.  What if there is someone who knows something and they read here and are scared?  Perhaps we should outline safe ways.  Would the United States FBI give someone protection to come forward?

[blah]

66.gary on March 3rd, 2010 6:12 pm

Mon. night around 11:00pm, D.K. and Jvds pickup her body in D.K. car ( decomposition is starting to be notice) they take her to Jvds house, D.K. parkes his car inside the compound, so they couldn’t be seen, then Pvds, Jvds, D.K. buried her body up againest the house, at this time Beth and Jug showed up with the Police, they were sent on a wild goose chase, so the boys could move the car out of the compound, that night the two dogs started digging her up, they moved her inside the apt. and put her in the bathtub.

this was #3 location, all this info is being taken from Jvds 6/13/05 and the 6/14/05 p.v.s.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/27/joran-van-der-sloot-admits-to-involvement-in-death-of-natalee-holloway-is-it-really-all-a-lie-now-joran-says-natalee-fell-high-on-coke/comment-page-2/#comment-1974380

When those dutch guys finally came and started poking around in the van der sloots yard,  wasnt there a bunch of interest near the side of the house? My memory is for crap but it seems to me there was some big deal going on right up next to the side of the house.

[Jonathan45]

Gary's story will bring you to the swamp of his imagination.

Dompig: the 'Bubaliplas' story has technical file support and regarding the timeline it could be true. Not far from the Bubaliplas is the pole which got the signal from Joran's cellphone when he called [ bad connection] Deepak at 2.26 am the night Natalee disappeared to tell him the first beachlie to confuse and finally nailing Deepak and Satish to escape from prosecution. 

The contents of that call is crucial in this unsolved case. Deepak was surprised [ ' we could have dropped you off at the beach if you had said so' ] after Joran told him that he and the girl went to the beach after the Kalpoe brothers had dropped them off at the VDS home and that he was during the call was walking home [barefoot and heavy breathing] ]after he left Natalee on the beach behind.

Was there, besides Joran, anybody else involved in this crime ?
There wasn't. Joran is the shark.

Natalee's remains can still be found.

[jen3560]

Posted on the front page of SM just now:

gary
Submitted on 2010/03/03 at 3:19pm

The reason jvds has included Andre in his new lie, is only because he was involved in moving her body to alhambra shopping center at address #56, called Aruba Textile Care at 3:00am Mon. morning, Guido got out of Dodge, now Andre needs a new alibi, the body was picked up from the pond area (where the gardener seen them) at 2:40am, and taken there. they will really squirm when I take them on the Boat ride on 6/4/05 at 1:50am, and tell them about the problems they had trying to sink the cage ..

Now THAT actually fits!! I'm perplexed about the 6/4/05 thing though -- WOW!

I'm also perplexed about the 6/4 part Wreck.  Awful to think about, and worse to post..............but I don't think the decomp would have gone unnoticed for 6 days in that heat.