Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[carpe noctem]

I had a purse, I had an awful purse.... -Lionel Richie

[Tamikosmom]

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gary
Submitted on 2010/03/03 at 3:19pm

The reason jvds has included Andre in his new lie, is only because he was involved in moving her body to alhambra shopping center at address #56, called Aruba Textile Care at 3:00am Mon. morning, Guido got out of Dodge, now Andre needs a new alibi, the body was picked up from the pond area (where the gardener seen them) at 2:40am, and taken there. they will really squirm when I take them on the Boat ride on 6/4/05 at 1:50am, and tell them about the problems they had trying to sink the cage ..

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/02/27/joran-van-der-sloot-admits-to-involvement-in-death-of-natalee-holloway-is-it-really-all-a-lie-now-joran-says-natalee-fell-high-on-coke/#comments

[Sharon/Tx]

   Hi Janet and Monkeys!  You all are amazing.  I so badly want Natalee's family to have closure.  I feel they will.  I have never in my life prayed for anything so much.  I met Tim and Dave when they were in Cypress back in June, 2005 and have never met such kind gentlemen in my life.  How dare Joran constantly torturing this family.  I best hang in the rafters before my BP goes up!

[carpe noctem]

YOU are the reason he no longer breathes Joran, nothing more, nothing less.

Anita`s cooking would have iced him eventually...

...but having you for a son...

It is like Federal Death Express.

[Lifesong]

LA CABANA

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AHATA Elects A New Board
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Hmmm

Could tie both pond hoaxes together, no?

    

I need a monkey slapping his forehead in realization, you know... a "now I get it" monkey!   

   

Thank you, Kermit!  And Thank you, Jen!!

         

[Kermit]

Thanks Kerm!

Now isn't that interesting!  Wasn't it August that Joran met with Jaap again and told the balcony/swamp story we all just heard?

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Yeah.

[Kermit]

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Hmmm

Could tie both pond hoaxes together, no?

AHATA at work hard it appears

[Kermit]

Anita`s cooking would have iced him eventually...

[Kermit]

Thank you, Kermit!  And Thank you, Jen!!

The Thanks is to everyone here. Monkeys are a great source of help, determination and good will and support. 

I hope that ARUBA finally succumbs to the realization we will not go away so
GIVE NATALEE BACK! It's within your power to do so and you know it. MIKE EMAN - do what is right.
[/u]

[Tamikosmom]

  Hi Janet and Monkeys!  You all are amazing.  I so badly want Natalee's family to have closure.  I feel they will.  I have never in my life prayed for anything so much.  I met Tim and Dave when they were in Cypress back in June, 2005 and have never met such kind gentlemen in my life.  How dare Joran constantly torturing this family.  I best hang in the rafters before my BP goes up!

 

Hi Sharon/TX

I am hoping that at least one of the participants who played a role in the events that encompassed the demise of Natalee Holloway and the subsequent coverup ... will read your words.  You just never know who is lurking in the rafters and ... your plea/encouragement to do right will be heeded.  It has been five years.  Maybe at least one of those who were deemed to be suspects ... one of those who were detained in the case ... has matured and ... grown a conscience.  Maybe one young man will reexamine his life when he holds his newborn in his arms for the first time.  I know I did ... the feeling was overwhelming.

When all is said and done ... I have no idea in regards to the outcome but ... I believe with all my heart that there is a Devine reason that the Natalee Holloway case has not become a cold case after five long years.

Thanks again Sharon/TX.

Janet

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SUSPECTS IN THE NATALEE HOLLOWAY CASE

Joran van der Sloot

6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder

11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.

 
Deepak Kalpoe

6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

8/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.

11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.


Satish Kalpoe

6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.

8/2005 - Suspected of the primary criminal act of together with other people committing premeditated murder, alternately together with other people murdering somebody, more alternately rob a person of her liberty with fatal consequences and even more alternately, raping somebody and new suspicions.

11/2008 - Suspicion of involvement in voluntary manslaughter and causing serious bodily harm that resulted in the death of Holloway.


Paulus van der Sloot

6/2005 -  complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping.


Steve Croes:

6/2005 - Suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder.   


Geoffrey van Cromvoirt

4/2006 - criminal offenses that may be related to the disappearance"of Natalee Holloway.


Guido Weaver

4/2006 - Assisting in the murder, heavy battery and kidnapping" of the teen


Freddy Alexander Zedan Armbatzis:

Nancy Grace - August 29, 2005

NANCY GRACE, HOST:  Thank you very much for being with us, Beth. So much happening. What do you think this means, the arrest of the Kalpoe brothers, and what do you have to tell us tonight -- Beth.

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, NATALEE`S MOTHER: Well, Nancy, I would imagine that it means that they`ve gathered new evidence to warrant this re-arrest of the Kalpoe brothers. And there`s no way you`re going to convince me that Freddy`s arrest is a coincidence. You know, I`ve seen his name surface throughout my documentation that I`ve been keeping since as early as June 15th ....

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/29/ng.01.htm


'Scarborough Country' - August 26, 2005

LISA DANIELS, GUEST HOST:  You know, if you take the prosecution‘s statement at its face, we are talking on a whole new level, the charges here.  We are talking about drugs.  We are talking about rape and we are talking about rape of many different people.  There are four guys now in custody, four best friends.  What does that tell you?
 
JOSSY MANSUR, EDITOR, “DIARIO”:  Well, what it tells me is that, really, these four guys are friends.  They belong to the same group, these party boys that go out and prey on young, unsuspected girls or other kinds of girls also that are out to have a good time, not suspecting what they‘re in for with these predators around.

And they are—they not only appear in photographs together, but I understand that Freddy lives very near to the Joran house.  So, there is a bond between them.  There is a group that they call themselves the pimps, in which all of these participate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9119491/


ACCORDING TO DUTCH LAW

Arlene Ellis-Schipper - Aruban Attorney
Nancy Grace - July 20, 2005

ARLENE ELLIS-SCHIPPER, ARUBAN ATTORNEY: There is no grand jury in Aruba. It`s a different system.  You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/14/ng.01.html


Noraina Pietersz - Aruban Attorney
Associated Press- June 9, 2005

Under Aruban law, only serious suspicion from investigators — not solid evidence — is needed for a judge to rule that suspects can be held, Pietersz said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8079019/

[jen3560]

Thanks Kerm!

Now isn't that interesting!  Wasn't it August that Joran met with Jaap again and told the balcony/swamp story we all just heard?

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Yeah.

Methinks this would be an excellent avenue to look into.  This person at the LaCabana has been around for a few years now..........and seems to have always been right in the thick of a hoax during its planning stages.

[Tamikosmom]

THE KNOT HAS COME LOOSE!! THE CORDS WILL UNRAVEL!!

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 149: My arms rest on top of the investigation notebook I carry with me all the time. Natalee’s reward poster with her picture on it is inside the front clear cover, in plain view. Paulus’ arms are on the table. Our knuckles are only inches apart. His arms are shaking. His fists are clenched.

“You’re responsible for Aruba being trapped in hell,” I tell him, still calm. “You can change that. But Aruba will stay in a perpetual state of hell until you come forward.” …

Page 150-151: Pulling a couple of prayer bracelets out of my pocket. I offer them to the van der Sloots. First I tie one on Anita’s arm, then ask Paulus if he would like one. He lifts his clench-fisted arm, shaking as if he has Parkinson’s disease, and tries very hard to hold it up. What a pathetic form of a man he is, I think — a very different person from the one who stood so brazenly in his front yard in the wee hours that first morning facing down Aruban police and our men from home. I take my time tying the bracelet, very, very slowly, and explain the meaning of the three cords of yarn.

“Paulus, this bracelet stands for a Bible verse. It’s Ecclesiasties 4:12. “Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.” I finish the tying and gently pat the knot. “There you go.”

And right then the bracelet looks different to me. I see the three cords as the suspects, and the knot at the end holding them together as Paulus. It’s not just clear — it’s crystal clear.  There are potentially four people who know what happened to Natalee.  We need the knot to come loose and the three cords to unravel.  

[carpe noctem]

You got punched in the eye.

Mommy was allowed to smuggle in these. 

She should already be dead too, from exhaustion.

[carpe noctem]

3 EVIDENCE BAGS

[Buckeye]

Rob

The address I show for the shopping center is:

  LG Smith Blvd 47, Oranjestad adjacent to the Alhambra Casino

GREATER ORANJESTAD.   This late-night shopping spot is a favorite for casino goers that need a break from the action. Located near Aruba's low-rise hotels, a variety of shops and boutiques offer wares from around the world. Cafes and an outdoor market provide rest stops for a cup of coffee or a bite to eat.

http://www.10best.com/Aruba,Aruba/Shopping/Shopping_Centers_&_Districts/56116/Alhambra_Casino_Shopping_Bazaar_Oranjestad/

      Alhambra Casino is easily accessible from the high-rise resorts and Oranjestad, as it is nestled nicely within walking distance to most of the low-rise resorts. Because of its long heritage, every taxi driver knows it well and can get you here from anywhere on Aruba!

If you’re driving, then finding us is a snap. We are located adjacent to the Divi Aruba All-Inclusive, in the low rise hotel section of the island. Coming from Palm Beach, simply drive on the main road (Sasakiweg), heading towards town (Oranjestad), until you reach traffic lights between La Cabana resort and Adventure Golf (miniature golf).

Continue through the lights and you will pass through a round-a-bout in front of the bowling alley. Stay on the main road straight ahead and just after passing Pizza Hut on the left side of the road, you’ll come to a road to the right, just in front of The Links Golf Course.

Turn right and follow straight to our front door!

If coming from Oranjestad, you’ll be on the same main road (Sasakiweg) leading back to the hotels and eventually the lighthouse. After passing several grocery stores on your right side, you’ll come to a traffic light just in front of a 5 story yellow building called Sun Plaza.

At this light, you can turn left and follow it past the Divi Village and Tamarijn Aruba All-Inclusive resorts until you reach us, at the next street turning left!

http://www.casinoalhambra.com/shopping/index.html

[Rob]

[carpe noctem]

You are arrested based on suspicion, on strong suspicion.
Arlene Ellis-Schipper - Aruban Attorney


That is all they ever needed. They could have arrested them and kept
arresting them, over and over again, IF THEY SO DESIRED, even to this
day.

So, in short, Blanken is full of horse chit when he says he is guilty but they cannot do anything about it.

I do have a different suggestion for Blanken, though.

Try this, Blanken. I think it just might work.

[Rob]

Posted on the front page of SM just now:

gary
Submitted on 2010/03/03 at 3:19pm

The reason jvds has included Andre in his new lie, is only because he was involved in moving her body to alhambra shopping center at address #56, called Aruba Textile Care at 3:00am Mon. morning, Guido got out of Dodge, now Andre needs a new alibi, the body was picked up from the pond area (where the gardener seen them) at 2:40am, and taken there. they will really squirm when I take them on the Boat ride on 6/4/05 at 1:50am, and tell them about the problems they had trying to sink the cage ..

this is near Eagle beach and the Bucuti IIRC, but don't quote me on that.

how does this Gary know and why isn't he being questioned?

BUMP...

here is my reply to Klaas and her original post from Gary.

So, it seems that she was in Aruba Textile, and not buried, after-all, how could someone be buried in a parking lot.

[klaasend]

Posted on the front page of SM just now:

gary
Submitted on 2010/03/03 at 3:19pm

The reason jvds has included Andre in his new lie, is only because he was involved in moving her body to alhambra shopping center at address #56, called Aruba Textile Care at 3:00am Mon. morning, Guido got out of Dodge, now Andre needs a new alibi, the body was picked up from the pond area (where the gardener seen them) at 2:40am, and taken there. they will really squirm when I take them on the Boat ride on 6/4/05 at 1:50am, and tell them about the problems they had trying to sink the cage ..

this is near Eagle beach and the Bucuti IIRC, but don't quote me on that.

how does this Gary know and why isn't he being questioned?

BUMP...

here is my reply to Klaas and her original post from Gary.

So, it seems that she was in Aruba Textile, and not buried, after-all, how could someone be buried in a parking lot.

Right, he is claiming or theorizing that Andre helped move the body in the morning to Aruba Textile Care and then was later (6/4/) taken out to sea.

[Rob]

Buckeye, when I put in LG Smith Blvd 47, Oranjestad - it goes directly to the runway at the airport.. go figure..

this is what I have been saying about Google Virtual Earth and Aruba - oil and water.

so, I hope that is the correct location for the shopping center - I am not so sure. I see tennis courts, does a shopping mall have tennis courts? <shrugs shoulders>

When I move the cursor over the blue dot - it says, Alhambra, and the one next to it in the parking lot does says Alhambra Casino, but the casino is actually over a little bit... it's not marked properly in GVE.