Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[Magnolia]

This is a house investigated from a tip to Dave Holloway. If I recall it was said that they brought Natalee to this house.

That looks more like Astrid's house (Lorenzo's mom):

Astrid's house (prior to selling it)



House above that Kermit posted (enlarged)



House noted in Jaap video:

We have seen a picture of this house before.  It had two cars parked in front of it and one of the cars was red.

I think it was from the newspaper in Aruba........but that is all I can remember.

[Kermit]

OK so what we have so far:

1 - 20 yr old Aruban
2 - Drug dealer in the hotels
3 - At his father's house
4 - Mother alibied him
5 - Gave 2 witness statements
6 - Blood below his balcony
7 - Blood in his car
8 - Name (either first or last) begins with A
9 - Disposal in Bubali Bird Sanctuary - from the only entrance to it there is, walked as far as they could

How many statements did Freddy give?

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 12, 2005 11:05
pages 5
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Juan Boezem
description: witness statement of JVDS neighbor/friend

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 13, 2005 17:00
pages 5
writer: Johny Erasmus
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Arambatzis
June 16, 2005 15:30
pages 8
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Marcelino Ras
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan
June 17, 2005
pages 6
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Eric Soemers
description: witness statement

Freddie Alexander Zedan Arambatzis
June 28, 2005 14:25
pages 11
writer: Shaniro Kelly/Haydee Nadal
description: witness statement

Freddy Zedan Arrambatzis
July 1, 2005
pages 9
writer: Dennis Jacobs/Haydee Azucena
description: witness statement

Wasn't Freddy's mother the supervisor of the Bulbai Sanctuary?

ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA MONTANJA 39-F


Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom: Freddy's mom is a "Supervisory Director" for the Bubali Sports Club located in Noord. Bubali is also the location of the Bird Sanctuary which has 2 ponds.
Here is the complete name of Freddy's mom:
LILIAN REGINA ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT
It appears that she has been married twice. I don't know if Rodriguez or Albert is her maiden name. Since she is listed as being "Dutch" I would think that "Albert" was probably her maiden name....but, I am not sure. Can anybody help me out on this?
I have always thought "Zedan" was Freddy's last name until I found this other info. Could it be his middle name?
You can find this information at:
http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp
Type in: S.C. BUBALI where it says TRADE NAME & then click search.

THANK YOU BLONDE.

When the Gardener saw Kalpoes car, it was most likely Freddy in the car, not Satish. Satish was home on the computer giving them alibi's. I believe this is where Joran stashed evidence, not a body.

[Kermit]

Joran is rotten piece of shit.   

He can't tell the truth, he will never tell the truth.  He wants all of this attention and is, I'm sure, enjoying it.

He gets a sick, twisted pleasure out of reliving Natalee's death and from putting her parents and her family through the pain of it over and over again.  He likes to rub all of our noses in the fact that he knows what happened and we don't.

Joran is a rotten piece of shit.

I can't imagine it will be long before someone from Aruba puts an end to all this to save their island.  Joran deserves much much worse than even the terrible fate that awaits him.

 

Isn't it interesting how he decides to attack Natalee's family rather then grieve over his father's demise.

[Kermit]

Jorans Map.

 

[can]

EURobert -

I hope you will join us during the airing - your help is the past has been appreciated. 

[San]

Jen Andre Santos was born in October 1986 making him 18 at the time. 
I suppose Joran may not know the specific ages of his acquaintances and friends.

We all know Joran lies so his 20 is probably 18.

[klaasend]

This is a house investigated from a tip to Dave Holloway. If I recall it was said that they brought Natalee to this house.

That looks more like Astrid's house (Lorenzo's mom):

Astrid's house (prior to selling it)



House above that Kermit posted (enlarged)



House noted in Jaap video:

We have seen a picture of this house before.  It had two cars parked in front of it and one of the cars was red.

I think it was from the newspaper in Aruba........but that is all I can remember.

GVC's house I believe

[can]

Jen Andre Santos was born in October 1986 making him 18 at the time. 
I suppose Joran may not know the specific ages of his acquaintances and friends.

We all know Joran lies so his 20 is probably 18.

wouldn't doubt it at all. 

[San]

Joran is rotten piece of shit.   

He can't tell the truth, he will never tell the truth.  He wants all of this attention and is, I'm sure, enjoying it.

He gets a sick, twisted pleasure out of reliving Natalee's death and from putting her parents and her family through the pain of it over and over again.  He likes to rub all of our noses in the fact that he knows what happened and we don't.

Joran is a rotten piece of shit.

I can't imagine it will be long before someone from Aruba puts an end to all this to save their island.  Joran deserves much much worse than even the terrible fate that awaits him.

 

Isn't it interesting how he decides to attack Natalee's family rather then grieve over his father's demise.

He is like his mother.  He rather attack the wrong people then point the finger at themselves.  In his sick mind he blames Natalee and her family for what happened. He believes Natalee and Beth ruined his life.

[carpe noctem]

Killing Natalee defines him. It has been his only successful accomplishment in life.

Without her - He is nothing.

Couldnt even get hired shoveling buffalo dung!

[Rob]

Nice lil story the shithead has wove here. Complete with a new house and a balcony story. Oh my. How clever and ingenious.

Joran must be gayer than Guido... apparently.s

he has a girl all to HIMSELF... and he's thinking whiskey and coke... riggght sure he is...

And he just "accidentally" knew what her panties looked like cause he accidentally caught a glimpse as she tumbled over the railing.

It's all entertaining, and I do find it rather amusing, but I still await his low painful murder. Maybe RTL knows when that will occur?

Does that make me a bad person - I don't THINK so. 

[jen3560]

Jen Andre Santos was born in October 1986 making him 18 at the time. 
I suppose Joran may not know the specific ages of his acquaintances and friends.

I did notice the age discrepancy.  And also Andre is not "Aruban" either.  But considering these are Joran's words we're talking about.....

[Kermit]

[Kermit]

[Kermit]

[klaasend]

GVC's house.....


Personally I think Joran is FOS and just throwing stuff out there based upon what was being said in the forums.







It's Not GVC's

House from the Jaap interview:

[Kermit]

GVC home

[Lifesong]

Well, for once I agree with ALE...this is fantasy and lies.

Look how thin that railing is!!

There's no way Natalee would've tried to stand on that balcony railing and the only way she could've ever fallen off that balcony is if Joran picked her up and threw her over it.

And....No, I do not believe that anticipating Joran's demise makes anyone a bad person.  Who was that said, "all that is required for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing."? 

Anita and Joran deserved Paulus and vice versa.  They've proven that all over again in the last week.  Trash begets trash.  What a waste of the miracle of God-given life.  I pity them all while I await the sweet arrival of justice.  It will come.  I have NO doubt.

[Rob]

I just taped the back-end server of SBS6 and you're not gonna believe what I found.

Join us next week as we use a cardiac defibrillator on Junior the Crackhead as he takes on on a tour of the dump where he says Joran and he dumped the body of Natalee Holloway, the missing American Teen. Junior gives us a look at his two room cardboard box, with balcony, and indoor heated swimming pool. And then in a special follow-up broadcast, we take Gerold Dompig on a time machine travel using a car battery and jumper cables. It's a show no one will want to miss. And don't forget, we always recommend red wine for our special broadcasts. Cabernet if you have it.

[carpe noctem]

What a tish hole!