Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[carpe noctem]

i hate them all

isnt the whole case really about this

joran and crew were drugging and raping and probably video taping it and at times were letting the older PIGS ( PAULUS ) have a chance at the rape of the drugged girls and women.

and if joran was brought to justice the OLD PIGS ( paulus  and his cronies were all going down)

so, the protection of joran which = protection of paulus which = protection of others

is the whole story

I  swear to god, I would pull a DENZEL WASHINGTON  Man on Fire   scene


I have no doubt there will be a REAL moment of truth... but there will have to be more suicides like paulus,  first..........

I think this is what drove the whole cover up from the get go...
They did this 20 times before and nothing bad happen...
because thy left a scared drugged girl on the beach and when she woke up...rushed to catch a flight off the hell hole of an island...
I hate them all too....
I'm betting Minnesota Dad and many others feel the same.......

Instead of letting that happen - Natalee gave Joran the 100% bonafide ass kicking
beat down that he deserved. She would have rather died than have sex with that
PIG.

It's okay luv, we understand.

We will continue the beat down, until the job is finished.

HE WILL BE FINISHED OFF. It has already been written.

We are already into the final chapters now.






He needs it, he wants it, he is begging you for it. Why you no listen, Swa?

In this country, it is considered polite to give a person what they want.

[Kermit]

Andre - look at what Joran is doing to your good name!



Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 199.2.114.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
ISP Sprint
Location    Continent :South America
Country :   Aruba   (Facts)

City :Oranjestad
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Visitor's Time Mar 1 2010 10:59:27 pm
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Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 201.229.46.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location    Continent: South America
Country:   Aruba   (Facts)
City :Oranjestad
Lat/Long: 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
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Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 199.2.117.# (SLBH/SETAR ARUBA)
ISP Sprint
Location Continent: South America
Country:Aruba   (Facts)
City:Oranjestad
Lat/Long:12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.18) Gecko/2010020220 Firefox/3.0.18 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
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Time Zone UTC-4:00
Visitor's Time Mar 2 2010 7:02:17 pm
Visit Number 18,583

THIS IS ANITA VAN DER SLOOT or maybe sporter using his mom's computer
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 201.229.46.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location    Continent: South America
Country:   Aruba   (Facts)
City :Oranjestad
Lat/Long: 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; OfficeLiveConnector.1.3; OfficeLivePatch.0.0)
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Monitor Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Color Depth: 32 bits

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Referring URLhttp://www.google.co...Van Der Sloot Santos
Search Engine google.com
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Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Time Zone UTC-8:00
Visitor's Time Mar 2 2010 12:00:10 am
Visit Number 18,572

[Kermit]

From the day Natalee is missing there has never been a search [cadaverdog] at the former buildingsite [ archives gle Earth, first images of the area], now a  new soccerfield, on the Malmokweg [corner], very close to the VDS compound. The area is called Cunucu, Jorans playground when he was a kid. He mentioned it in his book.
Here is the link to 'Compleho Deportivo Frans Figoroa.
If Joran committed this crime alone, and I have no doubts about that, then this is one of three spots within the Cunucu where Joran could have buried or hidden Natalee's body. The other two spots are dumpsites [ trash] with polluted water.


http://www.avbaruba.aw/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showPlayground&p=2&pgid=2&Itemid=89

SEEMS THAT THE LA CABANA PERSON THINKS LIKE YOU BACK IN AUGUST 09

Domain Name lacabanabrc.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 201.229.38.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location Continent: South America
Country:Aruba  (Facts)
City: Oranjestad
Lat/Long:12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language Dutch nl
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729)
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Visit Entry Page http://scaredmonkeys...-sloot-living-in-ga/
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Out Click http://tinyurl.com/ybb9r5
http://tinyurl.com/ybb9r5
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 UTC+1:00
Visitor's Time  Aug 30 2009 6:15:17 am
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[Kermit]

He needs it, he wants it, he is begging you for it. Why you no listen, Swa?

In this country, it is considered polite to give a person what they want.

PAPA - DO YOU HEAR ME

[Magnolia]

Quote from Carpe:

Instead of letting that happen - Natalee gave Joran the 100% bonafide ass kicking
beat down that he deserved. She would have rather died than have sex with that
PIG.

It's okay luv, we understand.

We will continue the beat down, until the job is finished.

HE WILL BE FINISHED OFF. It has already been written.

We are already into the final chapters now.



I love this Carpe!!

I have always thought that Natalee fought back with all she had. 

[msmarple]

Hi Monkeys, and Happy Friday,

I have a question about these IP sessions originating from afar (or near, too).

Most of them are showing 0 (seconds) for the Visit Length. Is that literal - that is, apparently the user is just glancing at the page?

Also, to what does "Visit Number" refer? How many times that particular computer visited this site, or how many times the page has been visited (page views) by all visitors?

Hope these questions made sense. And aren't stupid. 

Thanks to all who helped with translations of this latest gobbledygook from jvds.

[carpe noctem]

I almost wet myself when I saw what the troll's out click was.

 

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/carpehumor/andyk.png

[Kermit]

Yes, I agree and have always thought that Paulus "Wiretaps" vd Sloot was involved in something very shady.  We know he made the evidence disappear in the Ben (Voc)King case as Vocking as much as admitted to that but I think he was into something when Natalee disappeared as well.

The disolution of his law firm right before his death is strange,  And yet no autopsy of a premature death like that.

Very strange goings on all around him.

Yes, Yes, and Yes!!!!

Eric Williams knew Paulus was a Judge before any of Beth, Jug and their friends even knew a last name for Joran. And this was at the HI that very first night, when they finally had a location for Joran - and before they got there!

* van der Straeten gets a new position in Aruba
* Paulus and Antonio dissolve their law firm
* Paulus van der Sloot suddenly & unexpectedly dies
* no autopsy
* rushed out of the country and his ashes spread around in Boxtel.
* Anita happily posting away on Facebook making jabs at Natalee
* Anita posting away on Facebook pimping herself for Richard Gere
* Anita or Joran searching Natalee's freebirds site about Santos.
Probably wondering if more of their intentional mis-direction worked.



kinky.

[jen3560]

Hi Monkeys, and Happy Friday,

I have a question about these IP sessions originating from afar (or near, too).

Most of them are showing 0 (seconds) for the Visit Length. Is that literal - that is, apparently the user is just glancing at the page?

Also, to what does "Visit Number" refer? How many times that particular computer visited this site, or how many times the page has been visited (page views) by all visitors?

Hope these questions made sense. And aren't stupid. 

Thanks to all who helped with translations of this latest gobbledygook from jvds.

Mi Msmarple.  Not stupid questions at all!!

Duration length will show as Zero in either of two instances:

1 - Visitor is literally just skipping thru cyber space and happens upon that page, only to leave it again immediately.

2 - Visitor reads ONLY the page that they are viewing, views no further pages at that site - and therefore their actual duration is not registered, and shows as Zero.

Visitor number is the number of visits to that site from all visitors.

[jen3560]

FYI - I keep checking and found this front page comment.....

85.gary on March 5th, 2010 10:25 am
Just to let you know that I live in the U.S.A., and never been to Aruba, and I’m not afraid,jvds is the one playing games with a brutal murder of Natalee, and taking you people in a complete circle with this gruesome crime, at the beginning D.K. was seen policing the crime area and moving items to the Bird Sanctuary, when question by the police, he said he wanted to mess up the Investigation, do you think jvds would let him do that if he had put her body there??
also the 2ks provided an item from their house to cover Natalee with (the right side of her face and her head were bleeding, she also had damage to her throat, strangled or took a hard blow to the Larynx area causing her to suffocate, this is my guess)She also was raped/attemped by jvds only.
#4 location was taken from a S.M. article, that two female phone workers seen a man with an ax, a car and a blond girl laying in the bushes close to Barcadera in a field, during the week she went missing..
#5 The trap was retrieved during this week and taken to Frenchmans Pass and hidden, now they had to wait until the parents of Koen and Sander left Aruba the coming weekend, so they could use the boat..

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

[jen3560]

Yes, I agree and have always thought that Paulus "Wiretaps" vd Sloot was involved in something very shady.  We know he made the evidence disappear in the Ben (Voc)King case as Vocking as much as admitted to that but I think he was into something when Natalee disappeared as well.

The disolution of his law firm right before his death is strange,  And yet no autopsy of a premature death like that.

Very strange goings on all around him.

Yes, Yes, and Yes!!!!

Eric Williams knew Paulus was a Judge before any of Beth, Jug and their friends even knew a last name for Joran. And this was at the HI that very first night, when they finally had a location for Joran - and before they got there!

* van der Straeten gets a new position in Aruba
* Paulus and Antonio dissolve their law firm
* Paulus van der Sloot suddenly & unexpectedly dies
* no autopsy
* rushed out of the country and his ashes spread around in Boxtel.
* Anita happily posting away on Facebook making jabs at Natalee
* Anita posting away on Facebook pimping herself for Richard Gere
* Anita or Joran searching Natalee's freebirds site about Santos.
Probably wondering if more of their intentional mis-direction worked.



kinky.

   Kinky!!!

[MuffyBee]

Yes, I agree and have always thought that Paulus "Wiretaps" vd Sloot was involved in something very shady.  We know he made the evidence disappear in the Ben (Voc)King case as Vocking as much as admitted to that but I think he was into something when Natalee disappeared as well.

The disolution of his law firm right before his death is strange,  And yet no autopsy of a premature death like that.

Very strange goings on all around him.

Yes, Yes, and Yes!!!!

Eric Williams knew Paulus was a Judge before any of Beth, Jug and their friends even knew a last name for Joran. And this was at the HI that very first night, when they finally had a location for Joran - and before they got there!

* van der Straeten gets a new position in Aruba
* Paulus and Antonio dissolve their law firm
* Paulus van der Sloot suddenly & unexpectedly dies
* no autopsy
* rushed out of the country and his ashes spread around in Boxtel.
* Anita happily posting away on Facebook making jabs at Natalee
* Anita posting away on Facebook pimping herself for Richard Gere
* Anita or Joran searching Natalee's freebirds site about Santos.
Probably wondering if more of their intentional mis-direction worked.



kinky.

(Bolded by me)

And it rhymes with hinky 

[jen3560]

THIS IS ANITA VAN DER SLOOT or maybe sporter using his mom's computer
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 201.229.46.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location    Continent: South America
Country:   Aruba   (Facts)
City :Oranjestad
Lat/Long: 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; OfficeLiveConnector.1.3; OfficeLivePatch.0.0)
Javascript version 1.3
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Search Engine google.com
Search Words   joran van der sloot santos
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Time Zone UTC-8:00
Visitor's Time Mar 2 2010 12:00:10 am
Visit Number 18,572

At midnight on a Tuesday................I'm going with Sporter.  Unless of course, Anita can retire because Paulus had life insurance with a huge payout?  Then I could see her on the home computer at midnight, not having to get up to go to work and all....

[Kermit]

LifeSong - I don't know if these will prove helpful for your timeline or not, but here are some notes I kept on our lacabana visitor.

LaCabana.................their time share sales office has an address on Beatrixstraat.

Remember? That's where the lat/long is for that CNG member that I caught....


Domain Name lacabanabrc.com (Commercial)
IP Address 201.229.38.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location Continent : South America
Country : Aruba (Facts)
City : Oranjestad
Lat/Long : 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor Resolution : 1024 x 768
Color Depth : 32 bits

Time of Visit Nov 10 2007 2:33:23 pm
Last Page View Nov 10 2007 2:33:23 pm
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URL http://www.google.co...lloway November 2007
Search Engine google.com
Search Words natalee holloway november 2007
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreeb...7_11_01_archive.html
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreeb...7_11_01_archive.html
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Nov 10 2007 4:33:23 pm
Visit Number 4,262

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Domain Name lacabanabrc.com (Commercial)
IP Address 201.229.38.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet Location
Continent:South America
Country:Aruba (Facts)
City: Oranjestad
Lat/Long:12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us Operating System Macintosh MacOSX Browser Firefox
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.  Gecko/2009032608 Firefox/3.0.8 Javascript version 1.5 Monitor
Resolution:1440 x 900
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Time of Visit Apr 8 2009 12:38:01 am
Last Page View Apr 8 2009 12:38:01 am
Visit Length 0 seconds Page Views
1 Referring URL http://www.google.co...arch&aq=1&oq=Natalee
Search Engine google.com
Search Words natalee holloway found
Visit Entry Page http://scaredmonkeys...ry/natalee-holloway/
Visit Exit Page http://scaredmonkeys...ry/natalee-holloway/
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-8:00
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Visit Number 17,262,914

****
Domain Name lacabanabrc.com  (Commercial)
IP Address 201.229.38.# (Setarnet) ISP Setarnet Location
Continent: South America
Country :Aruba (Facts)
City: Oranjestad
Lat/Long:12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language English (U.S.)
en-us Operating System Microsoft WinNT Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; MEGAUPLOAD 2.0; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618) Javascript version 1.3 Monitor
Resolution:1280 x 768
Color Depth:32 bits
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Search Engine google.com
Search Words san nicolas brothel
Visit Entry Page http://scaredmonkeys...x.php?topic=1451.760
Visit Exit Page http://scaredmonkeys...x.php?topic=1451.760
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Jun 20 2009 9:39:04 pm
Visit Number 18,395,808

****

 LaCabana is back  our blog again - this time looking at the pic of the Persistence in our Bring Natalee Home doc.

Domain Name lacabanabrc.com ? (Commercial)
IP Address 201.229.38.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location Continent : South America
Country : Aruba (Facts)
City : Oranjestad
Lat/Long : 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)

Language English (U.S.)
en-us
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 6.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; GTB6; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; WinNT-PAI 07.07.2009)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor Resolution : 1280 x 800
Color Depth : 32 bits

Time of Visit Jul 20 2009 7:51:50 pm
Last Page View Jul 20 2009 7:52:10 pm
Visit Length 20 seconds
Page Views 2
Referring URL http://images.google...&sz=23&hl=en&start=9
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Out Click
Time Zone UTC-5:00
Visitor's Time Jul 20 2009 9:51:50 pm
Visit Number 16,651

****

Jen these are different computers from the same place.
Which indicates more then one person is working overtime at LaCabana.

[jen3560]

Yep Kerm!!!  More than one person on the lacabana pc network doing these things....

[Kermit]

THIS IS ANITA VAN DER SLOOT or maybe sporter using his mom's computer
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 201.229.46.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location    Continent: South America
Country:   Aruba   (Facts)
City :Oranjestad
Lat/Long: 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; OfficeLiveConnector.1.3; OfficeLivePatch.0.0)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Color Depth: 32 bits

Time of Visit Mar 2 2010 1:00:10 am
Last Page View Mar 2 2010 1:00:10 am
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URLhttp://www.google.co...Van Der Sloot Santos
Search Engine google.com
Search Words   joran van der sloot santos
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Time Zone UTC-8:00
Visitor's Time Mar 2 2010 12:00:10 am
Visit Number 18,572

At midnight on a Tuesday................I'm going with Sporter.  Unless of course, Anita can retire because Paulus had life insurance with a huge payout?  Then I could see her on the home computer at midnight, not having to get up to go to work and all....

I agree.

* He knows that that radio show guy Steph Watts??? not sure what his name was - was onto him and his IP at his chat room. LOL  so he probably was thinking that he could disguise himself using mom's computer.

tool that he is

[Kermit]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

[jen3560]

THIS IS ANITA VAN DER SLOOT or maybe sporter using his mom's computer
Domain Name setardsl.aw ? (Aruba)

IP Address 201.229.46.# (Setarnet)
ISP Setarnet
Location    Continent: South America
Country:   Aruba   (Facts)
City :Oranjestad
Lat/Long: 12.5167, -70.0333 (Map)
Language    English (U.S.)
Operating System Microsoft WinXP
Browser Internet Explorer 8.0
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; OfficeLiveConnector.1.3; OfficeLivePatch.0.0)
Javascript version 1.3
Monitor Resolution: 1280 x 1024
Color Depth: 32 bits

Time of Visit Mar 2 2010 1:00:10 am
Last Page View Mar 2 2010 1:00:10 am
Visit Length 0 seconds
Page Views 1
Referring URLhttp://www.google.co...Van Der Sloot Santos
Search Engine google.com
Search Words   joran van der sloot santos
Visit Entry Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Visit Exit Page http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Time Zone UTC-8:00
Visitor's Time Mar 2 2010 12:00:10 am
Visit Number 18,572

At midnight on a Tuesday................I'm going with Sporter.  Unless of course, Anita can retire because Paulus had life insurance with a huge payout?  Then I could see her on the home computer at midnight, not having to get up to go to work and all....

Which brings up a good point................kerm, you remember what we wrote about Andre in our Face of Evil series, yes?  I wonder how Sporter feels reading that his latest "truth" has been blown all to hell?

[jen3560]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

As in - do nut break the prop when you tip that cage off the back of the boat?

[Kermit]

Yep Kerm!!!  More than one person on the lacabana pc network doing these things....

That solidifies the information we've been aware of then.

kinky bozos