Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[carpe noctem]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

I think Gar-Bear has fizzled.

Post 1 - Coming on so strong: "Where would you go to see the sharks?" (in a pond)

[Kermit]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

As in - do nut break the prop when you tip that cage off the back of the boat?

They never counted on you Jen remembering all that information and being able to piece it together.

LINK that document here would ya - I wanna read it again.

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Steph Watts is a she...who mentioned the chat room in her last broadcast.

[Kermit]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

I think Gar-Bear has fizzled.

Post 1 - Coming on so strong: "Where would you go to see the sharks?" (in a pond)

Yeah so right. The only sharks were/ARE Joran, Deepak, Satish, Freedy, Paulus, Anita.
The American Traitors are next in line.
That includes YOU MEDLEY and your buddy Landman.

[Kermit]

Steph Watts is a she...who mentioned the chat room in her last broadcast.

Thank you. That's the name. I saw her - she sits in the chat room during the radio show.

[carpe noctem]

Stick a cracker in it, ho. They are much more satisfying!

[2NJSons_Mom]

Stick a cracker in it, ho. They are much more satisfying!

 

[Magnolia]

Steph Watts is a she...who mentioned the chat room in her last broadcast.

Thank you. That's the name. I saw her - she sits in the chat room during the radio show.

Steph Watts is a guy.  He was a producer for one of the morning news shows and got fired.
He has been sorta freelancing since then....did the Greta thing and now the blog radio thing.
There is a woman who sorta watches the chat while he is on.
Others know more about Steph and company than I do.

[jen3560]

If that were the case, why didn't ALE see them?  They were, after all, surveilling them for those first 10 days, right?
 

It was donut break.

As in - do nut break the prop when you tip that cage off the back of the boat?

They never counted on you Jen remembering all that information and being able to piece it together.

LINK that document here would ya - I wanna read it again.

Nah - I just remember the small seemingly insignifigant details, and then we all piece it together!

http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/2007/10/in-face-of-evil-may-30-2005.html

That is part 1 of the 6 part series..

[carpe noctem]

[Kermit]

CARPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so glad you are back. I'm having a blast looking/reading your posts.
 

[Kermit]

Kyle said:: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:37 pm
I haven't talked to John since he left for Aruba. I don't see why or how they need John to search the pond unless they were hell bent at only searching the pond for the targets I picked, which is obsurd since the pond is empty.
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Reply #746 on: Today at 03:30:33 AM  CAPS
Hi monkeys,

Lots a work ahead now that help has arrived from the state.

More Later.....

CAPS
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2898.740

[msmarple]

Hi Monkeys, and Happy Friday,

I have a question about these IP sessions originating from afar (or near, too).

Most of them are showing 0 (seconds) for the Visit Length. Is that literal - that is, apparently the user is just glancing at the page?

Also, to what does "Visit Number" refer? How many times that particular computer visited this site, or how many times the page has been visited (page views) by all visitors?

Hope these questions made sense. And aren't stupid. 

Thanks to all who helped with translations of this latest gobbledygook from jvds.

Mi Msmarple.  Not stupid questions at all!!

Duration length will show as Zero in either of two instances:

1 - Visitor is literally just skipping thru cyber space and happens upon that page, only to leave it again immediately.

2 - Visitor reads ONLY the page that they are viewing, views no further pages at that site - and therefore their actual duration is not registered, and shows as Zero.

Visitor number is the number of visits to that site from all visitors.

Thank you Jen!

[Kermit]

"in his book JORAN seems to forget
the places he stopped to occupy that time
that he needed an excuse for that he was out in the boat" (a dear friend summaraized)

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT JORAN'S STORYBOOK

JORAN SAYS WHILE WALKING TOWARD THE WYNDHAM, HE WALKS TOWARD THE MARRIOTT TO SEE IF HE CAN FIND HIS SHOES

From the clubhouse I walked in the direction of Salinja to the Marriot Hotel. I walked along the same route that Deepak had taken to drop off me and Natalee. At the beach of the Marrio t I tried for a little while to find my shoes. They were nowhere to be found. I looked for about two minutes. Then I walked over the beach to the Wyndham Hotel. On the way there I saw a lot of people. I did not go to Fisherman's Hut to see if Natalee was still lying there. I at that moment was more worried about the shoes that I had left behind because I was unaware that Natalee had gone missing.
J VDS 6-14
 
8:00 PM JORAN SAYS HE LEAVES THE ARUBA GRAND AND STARTS WALKING TO THE WYNDHAM AGAIN
((note that this is the same time Paulus says he dropped the bag off to Joran while he was walking to the Wyndham))

She had then told me that it was 20.00 pm. I immediately walked to the Wyndham Hotel & Casino. At the Wyndham Hotel I walked in through the beach entrance and walked to the casino.
JVDS 6-13
 
ANDRE SAYS JORAN ARRIVED AT THE WYNDHAM AT 8:30

I asked Joran if he was on his way to the Wyndham hotel casino to play in the Texas Hold’m tournament. Joran told me he was on his way there. Around 20.30, Joran walked in to the Casa Blanca casino of the Wyndham hotel
June 20, 2005 - Andre Dos Santos


In an e-mail
I had received, someone discussing the cages stated that a lock was broken, and the net was used to dump Natalie 2 miles offshore.
Dave Holloway pages 76-77

[Lifesong]

Kyle said:: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:37 pm
I haven't talked to John since he left for Aruba. I don't see why or how they need John to search the pond unless they were hell bent at only searching the pond for the targets I picked, which is obsurd since the pond is empty.
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Reply #746 on: Today at 03:30:33 AM  CAPS
Hi monkeys,

Lots a work ahead now that help has arrived from the state.

More Later.....

CAPS
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2898.740

That is infuriating.   

[Lifesong]

Thank you Jen!

Thank you both!  That helped me as well.

[carpe noctem]

CARPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so glad you are back. I'm having a blast looking/reading your posts.
 

Thanks, Kermit. Good to be here. 

I'm always amazed at your dot connecting abilities! Keep 'em coming.

[Helen Back]

Very interesting imo...

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6210363/__Criminele_neef_Remkes_onder_loep__.html

Fri 05 Mar 2010, 05:30 | 0 comments

Criminal cousin former minister under the microscope

by John van den Heuvel and Bert Houses

AMSTERDAM -- The National Research in the deepest secrecy and a half year study of the family of then Minister Johan Remkes. The same nephew of former Interior Minister was working on large-scale smuggling and money currency from North Korea.



Johan Remkes.
Photo: eg Dijkstra Dijkstra, Fotoburea

The study was conducted in silence and began almost two years before Remkes stepped down as minister. It has led during his ministerial duties until a seizure worth several million euros. The study was highly sensitive because it was family minister.

Rogue State
The cousin was involved in the laundering of large sums of money from a so-called rogue state. North Korea was among the Americans' axis of evil ". The Telegraph reveals exclusive report this morning in a "top secret" investigation file of the national public prosecutor, which still must come to court. Thus, the nephew in the act committed by an observation team to a big money transaction.

Quarrel
Former Minister Remkes showed yesterday that he "parted" with his eponymous family. "I have therefore nothing to say." He also says not to comment on whether he minister and head of the police and secret service AIVD informed about the investigation into his cousin. "I never talk about what I heard was a minister. The line I keep." The lawyer is the cousin of his client by Prosecutor offered a deal, so the North Korean currency smuggling not have to come to court.

 

Hi Texasmom  and all monkeys!

This is very interesting and thanks for bringing it!  Didn't Beth tell us a long time ago that we would all be shocked by the scope of this mess and that the Aruba money laundering shenanigans had something to do with the North Korean Arms program?

Does anyone else remember this?  I think it was in the end of her book.....Janet will have it

FWIW, I won't believe Paulus is dead until I see a picture.....Kinda like the soaps.....If you don't see a body, they're coming back.

Maybe this is the time it all unravels and there is Justice for Natalee!  Later monkeys.....

 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Steph Watts is a she...who mentioned the chat room in her last broadcast.

Thank you. That's the name. I saw her - she sits in the chat room during the radio show.

Steph Watts is a guy.  He was a producer for one of the morning news shows and got fired.
He has been sorta freelancing since then....did the Greta thing and now the blog radio thing.
There is a woman who sorta watches the chat while he is on.
Others know more about Steph and company than I do.

OMG       I had read your posts about the show, but listened for the 1st time the other day.   Maybe I know too many female 'Steph's....but the voice sound like a woman to me. 

My apology....   

[Magnolia]

Steph Watts is a she...who mentioned the chat room in her last broadcast.

Thank you. That's the name. I saw her - she sits in the chat room during the radio show.

Steph Watts is a guy.  He was a producer for one of the morning news shows and got fired.
He has been sorta freelancing since then....did the Greta thing and now the blog radio thing.
There is a woman who sorta watches the chat while he is on.
Others know more about Steph and company than I do.

OMG       I had read your posts about the show, but listened for the 1st time the other day.   Maybe I know too many female 'Steph's....but the voice sound like a woman to me. 

My apology....   

No worries, 2NJ.  He does sound feminine.