Natalee Case Discussion #830 2/25/10 - 3/13/10

[klaasend]

Coming up in just a few minutes!

[Ono]

http://open.salon.com/blog/don_rich/2010/02/27/no_mystery_just_no_justice_for_natalee_holiday_a_neighbor

FEBRUARY 27, 2010 12:46PM

No Mystery, Just No Justice, For Natalee Holloway, Neighbor

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In any event, Frank had been hired at one point to investigate the Holloway case by the family, and was outraged at the lack of justice in this matter. When he told me what he found, I was too.

Frank interviewed bartenders and wait staff in Aruba, off the record of course, and van der Sloot, who was always the primary suspect, and has confessed, twice, had the following well documented modus operandi.

There is no mystery in the Natalee Holloway case, just no justice for an Alabamian in Aruba, or from the Dutch government to which Aruba is beholden.

I thought the Dutch were our allies?

Basically, van der Sloot trolled tourist bars, watching all the pretty girls, gradually finding out when they were leaving.

He tipped the bartender very well, the night or two before they were leaving, in order to get access to their drinks.

After drugging, and then raping the girls, his motif was that the girls would be confused from the drug, unsure of what had happened, and just really, really just wanting to go home to Mom, and not be embarrassed, which makes van der Sloot a cold blooded serial rapist: period.

Frank told me he stood on that beach, and you could see it all.

van der Sloot went to the well one time too many, and OD'd someone, finally.

His friends helped him hide the body to avoid the initial search,and then, he just walked her out to the sandbar, and cast her into the sea.

Why the Aruba and Dutch authorities are protecting a confessed. more than once, a confessed scumbag serial rapist and manslaughterer is beyond me, just as I have never understood why Federal or Alabama authorities don't lay murder charges agaisnt him, if the Ducth won't, put a bounty on his head, and drag him back to Alabama to get the attempted rape, kidnapping, and manslaughter charges he deserves, before he hurts anyone else, and to give the Holloway family justice, finally.

There is no mystery in the Natalee Holloway case, just no justice for an Alabamian in Aruba. Maybe Americans aren't welcome there, and should stop taking cruise ships there?

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http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Natalee-Holloway.aspx?cp-searchtext=Natalee%20Holloway

finis

I realize this is nothing new, but it just makes me so angry!  Why didn't anybody ever stand up for these girls?  If his modus operandi was so freaking well known...ugh.  I hope those that stood silently by are forever haunted by the memory of Natalee.  I hope when they close their eyes at night to go to sleep they see Beth Holloway and hear her pleading for help and for justice.

 

Me too.  It's still shocking.

[klaasend]

Sorry - no Dana Pretzer show tonight.  He had some technical difficulties!

[Sleuth]

Sorry - no Dana Pretzer show tonight.  He had some technical difficulties!

Thank you Klaasend.

[Ono]

Yes she does Magnolia!   

   Yes!     

[Ono]

No one on Aruba cares that Joran and the muttonhead brothers raped and murdered Natalee - nor are the shocked or finally convinced. They honestly just don't care.

what they do care about is having it brought up over and over and over again... whether by us, or Godfather Peter R, Greta, Beth, Red, Dr Phil... etc. etc. etc.... it ultimately hurts their crappy image and their ability to lure new and unsuspecting tourists down there. They can't find new and gullible idiots if this keeps coming back up - and this is the key to bleeding them out like the gutless criminals they all are.

That's all they care about. Never let anyone confuse you that they care one iota about Natalee or what happened to her.

They know rape and murder is wrong - and they sure as all heck don't like it thrown in their faces.

You're right-they just don't care, IMO.

[Ono]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...   

[texasmom]

I didn't do a lot of research on Tierra del Sol, but just in the little reading around after Paulus supposedly died there I thought there might be some problems...I saw this blog referenced recently in another Aruba newspaper.

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/?p=3#comments

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Aruba Today refuses to allow our call to action!
January 17th, 2010
Last week, we placed an ad in Aruba Today requesting that anyone that has had problems to contact us or go the site. Aruba Today took our money ad contractually agreed to place the ad. Unfortunately the ad did not appear and when we questioned it, we were told that Tierra del Sol does not want this published! What ever happened to free press? We suggest that you boycott Aruba Today and write or phone them to complain about this sitation. Have others do the same. Perhaps contact Government officials. Please feel free to also express your opinions on this blog.  We thought the Dutch were open and free people. How can this happen on a Dutch island?

Moderator

[wreck]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...   

They would probably supply arms to Chavez! Aruba is a pain the ass. 

[texasmom]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...   

They would probably supply arms to Chavez! Aruba is a pain the ass. 

 

I hope you're feeling better wreck!   

[Anna]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...  

I don't know but I like it, I like it!

 

[Magnolia]

I didn't do a lot of research on Tierra del Sol, but just in the little reading around after Paulus supposedly died there I thought there might be some problems...I saw this blog referenced recently in another Aruba newspaper.

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/?p=3#comments

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Aruba Today refuses to allow our call to action!
January 17th, 2010
Last week, we placed an ad in Aruba Today requesting that anyone that has had problems to contact us or go the site. Aruba Today took our money ad contractually agreed to place the ad. Unfortunately the ad did not appear and when we questioned it, we were told that Tierra del Sol does not want this published! What ever happened to free press? We suggest that you boycott Aruba Today and write or phone them to complain about this sitation. Have others do the same. Perhaps contact Government officials. Please feel free to also express your opinions on this blog.  We thought the Dutch were open and free people. How can this happen on a Dutch island?

Moderator

This little snip from the blog link is interesting:

Interestingly, the Attorney General, the highest judicial office in Aruba is the father in law of “Baby Face”, the son of scammer Joep van den Nieuwenhuyzen” so perhaps these statements are true!!
I now begin to understand why certain decisions of the judges in the past always had the advantage of Tierra del Sol.

[2NJSons_Mom]

I didn't do a lot of research on Tierra del Sol, but just in the little reading around after Paulus supposedly died there I thought there might be some problems...I saw this blog referenced recently in another Aruba newspaper.

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/?p=3#comments

snip

Aruba Today refuses to allow our call to action!
January 17th, 2010
Last week, we placed an ad in Aruba Today requesting that anyone that has had problems to contact us or go the site. Aruba Today took our money ad contractually agreed to place the ad. Unfortunately the ad did not appear and when we questioned it, we were told that Tierra del Sol does not want this published! What ever happened to free press? We suggest that you boycott Aruba Today and write or phone them to complain about this sitation. Have others do the same. Perhaps contact Government officials. Please feel free to also express your opinions on this blog.  We thought the Dutch were open and free people. How can this happen on a Dutch island?

Moderator

Wheel of Fortune's winner also won a trip there tonight.  Of course, it was prerecorded...but I had intentions to look it up once again, and that didn't happen...What a coincidence you should bring this up?? !! 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...   

They would probably supply arms to Chavez! Aruba is a pain the ass. 

 

I hope you're feeling better wreck!   

Me, too. 

[Keepthefaith]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

GOODNIGHT & GOD BLESS

KEEPTHEFAITH
 

[texasmom]

I don't know if this has been posted before or not, I don't recall seeing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fVO_Yq4kqc

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-fVO_Yq4kqc&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/-fVO_Yq4kqc&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>

jennifervogel
February 21, 2010
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[carpe noctem]

I didn't do a lot of research on Tierra del Sol, but just in the little reading around after Paulus supposedly died there I thought there might be some problems...I saw this blog referenced recently in another Aruba newspaper.

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/?p=3#comments

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Aruba Today refuses to allow our call to action!
January 17th, 2010
Last week, we placed an ad in Aruba Today requesting that anyone that has had problems to contact us or go the site. Aruba Today took our money ad contractually agreed to place the ad. Unfortunately the ad did not appear and when we questioned it, we were told that Tierra del Sol does not want this published! What ever happened to free press? We suggest that you boycott Aruba Today and write or phone them to complain about this sitation. Have others do the same. Perhaps contact Government officials. Please feel free to also express your opinions on this blog.  We thought the Dutch were open and free people. How can this happen on a Dutch island?

Moderator

That whole island is full of scam artists and contant bickering, threatening to sue,
and bullying.

What an awful place with such miserable little funny looking people.

F. them 1000 percent, and their entire family trees going
back several hundred years or so, preferably in a location
in which they find it most unappealing!!!

ARUBA IS ONE HUGE FUSTER CLUCK. 


They hurt Natalee... I will continue to be mad about that for at least the next 50 years.

[Magnolia]

I didn't do a lot of research on Tierra del Sol, but just in the little reading around after Paulus supposedly died there I thought there might be some problems...I saw this blog referenced recently in another Aruba newspaper.

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/

http://tierradelsolfraud.com/blog1/?p=3#comments

snip

Aruba Today refuses to allow our call to action!
January 17th, 2010
Last week, we placed an ad in Aruba Today requesting that anyone that has had problems to contact us or go the site. Aruba Today took our money ad contractually agreed to place the ad. Unfortunately the ad did not appear and when we questioned it, we were told that Tierra del Sol does not want this published! What ever happened to free press? We suggest that you boycott Aruba Today and write or phone them to complain about this sitation. Have others do the same. Perhaps contact Government officials. Please feel free to also express your opinions on this blog.  We thought the Dutch were open and free people. How can this happen on a Dutch island?

Moderator

That whole island is full of scam artists and contant bickering, threatening to sue,
and bullying.

What an awful place with such miserable little funny looking people.

F. them 1000 percent, and their entire family trees going
back several hundred years or so, preferably in a location
in which they find it most unappealing!!!

ARUBA IS ONE HUGE FUSTER CLUCK. 


They hurt Natalee... I will continue to be mad about that for at least the next 50 years.

They are "miserable funny looking people" 

[texasmom]

I came across this tonight.  I'd love to know what was said... I know from watching that his expression sure changed at the first mention of Natalee's name.  I looked around some but didn't find any articles about the interview.  I'm not sure if this is the whole interview or not.  Maybe Anna or others will try to find someone that will tell us what he had to say.  TIA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX3cvMA65Ak

FunXFM
February 02, 2010
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Last Sunday was the current Prime Minister of Aruba guest in Hi5. Michiel Godfried Eman is leader of the Aruban People's Party (AVP). Last year he was more than 8000 votes elected Prime Minister of the island. Mike, as he also mentioned, including what he said would have done differently if he was prime minister during the Natalee Holloway case and why Arubans feel better than other island inhabitants.
Category: News & Politics
Tags: mike Michiel Godfried Eman Aruba Natalee Holloway hi5 funx dutchversity banned questions

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LX3cvMA65Ak&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/LX3cvMA65Ak&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;</a>

All smiles and then Natalee's name...

[wreck]

I wonder what would happen if Chavez did invade Aruba ...      Would the Dutch send their military ... or not?    T'would be interesting ...   

They would probably supply arms to Chavez! Aruba is a pain the ass. 

 

I hope you're feeling better wreck!   

Me, too. 

Thanks! I'm adjusting to the BP meds -- gettting stronger everyday!