Lively Case Discussion #493 7/13 - 7/14/2006

[scared-tom]

I am running quite slow too!

Can one get rid of a keylogger - is Terry here maybe he knows.

looks like it was on our end. A quick reboot of the apache server and all is looking good.

[mrs. red]

I am running quite slow too!

Can one get rid of a keylogger - is Terry here maybe he knows.

looks like it was on our end. A quick reboot of the apache server and all is looking good.

Not the keylogger to be clear - the slowness

[the big hammer]

Porn Site Question...

Great FP posts!

Of the two porn sites mentioned, do we know if goon visited any of these "specifically" on 5/30/05 at approx 3:00 - 4:00am?

We know he admitted on TV w/ Greta, that he visited porn site at about this time.  ANd since there is NO WAY he would admit to this w/out it being true under prevailing conditions, someone (LE) knows he was online at the porn location(s).

DO we know which site he was visiting?

[Tylergal]

backseatbangers.com
pinkvisual.com

Wonder if there's a connection to Mr. Pink.  I couldn't find one but I may have to dig a little deaper.

well Mr Pink is in Michigan... right?

this company is out of AZ...

When the NY Post was making the connection of Joran and K2 to Mr Pink, they said he lives out of a suitcase and has connections everywhere.  I do believe one of our posters here was a minion of his, perhaps two, but I digress.

[Tylergal]

I am running quite slow too!

Can one get rid of a keylogger - is Terry here maybe he knows.

looks like it was on our end. A quick reboot of the apache server and all is looking good.

Thanks, Tom.  That is good to know but some of us have had that problem.

[klaasend]

Porn Site Question...

Great FP posts!

Of the two porn sites mentioned, do we know if goon visited any of these "specifically" on 5/30/05 at approx 3:00 - 4:00am?

We know he admitted on TV w/ Greta, that he visited porn site at about this time.  ANd since there is NO WAY he would admit to this w/out it being true under prevailing conditions, someone (LE) knows he was online at the porn location(s).

DO we know which site he was visiting?

YES - we know specifically he logged onto backseatbangers.com  

[Jacqueline]

I am running quite slow too!

Can one get rid of a keylogger - is Terry here maybe he knows.

looks like it was on our end. A quick reboot of the apache server and all is looking good.

Hey Tom...

Nice when you pop out and say hello!

[Tylergal]

Porn Site Question...

Great FP posts!

Of the two porn sites mentioned, do we know if goon visited any of these "specifically" on 5/30/05 at approx 3:00 - 4:00am?

We know he admitted on TV w/ Greta, that he visited porn site at about this time.  ANd since there is NO WAY he would admit to this w/out it being true under prevailing conditions, someone (LE) knows he was online at the porn location(s).

DO we know which site he was visiting?

YES - we know specifically he logged onto backseatbangers.com  

Makes me wonder if this is who he was trying to send the videos, 8-1/2 minutes.  Did he have a sale to them?  Was the money deposited at the bank where Paulus could get it around 4 a.m. while Joran was on the computer.  If they received the video, the money would be cash-transaction but did the virus interrupt the transmission and did Paulus get the money?

[klaasend]

backseatbangers.com
pinkvisual.com

Wonder if there's a connection to Mr. Pink.  I couldn't find one but I may have to dig a little deaper.

HAMMER - backseatbangers.com is run by pinkvisual.com

Trying to see if there's any link to Mr. Pink/Paul Brough but haven't found one yet.

[Tylergal]

Joran transmitting video, Paulus getting money for big sale, perhaps a snuff video and a certain heroine poster here helping create a scenario to help the K2, all in the early morning hours.  The connection with the K2 to the USA and the reason for the number in Kalpoe's pocket connected to Florida and a cruise ship that deals in human trafficking.

[klaasend]

I was doing some searching last night on the backseatbanger site.  I also looked again at the bangbus information.  It seems that originally, the bangbus site was free videos where anyone could send their own creations.  I would not be surprised if the Pimps weren't "dabbling" in the porn video area fine tuning their skills until they could sell them.

[Tylergal]

Big news about MYSPACE trying to assist in anti-porn.  About time.  I hope that means FBI or Interpol monitoring these sites.

[mrs. red]

Porn Site Question...

Great FP posts!

Of the two porn sites mentioned, do we know if goon visited any of these "specifically" on 5/30/05 at approx 3:00 - 4:00am?

We know he admitted on TV w/ Greta, that he visited porn site at about this time.  ANd since there is NO WAY he would admit to this w/out it being true under prevailing conditions, someone (LE) knows he was online at the porn location(s).

DO we know which site he was visiting?

YES the one in the article backseatbangers.com...

[mishy]

Joran transmitting video, Paulus getting money for big sale, perhaps a snuff video and a certain heroine poster here helping create a scenario to help the K2, all in the early morning hours.  The connection with the K2 to the USA and the reason for the number in Kalpoe's pocket connected to Florida and a cruise ship that deals in human trafficking.

That is hard core, Tylergal!! And as you mentioned Joran contracting a certain virus, I, too, was thinking "Maybe he got something that won't 'wash off'!"

But why would Paulus need to pick up the money at 4 AM specifically?? To help with disposal?

[mishy]

Big news about MYSPACE trying to assist in anti-porn.  About time.  I hope that means FBI or Interpol monitoring these sites.

TG, when those guys from B'ham were convicted of burning those churches down, it was discovered on MYSPACE, and at that time, MYSPACE and all of those kinds of sites were being monitored by FBI, IIRC...

[Jacqueline]

- Ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame sues Vice President Cheney, his former aide, Scooter Libby, and presidential adviser Karl Rove.

Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com and watch FREE video, plus live, commercial-free video with CNN Pipeline.

[mrs. red]

- Ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame sues Vice President Cheney, his former aide, Scooter Libby, and presidential adviser Karl Rove.

Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com and watch FREE video, plus live, commercial-free video with CNN Pipeline.

Really? Why because Joe Wilson her husband placed her in Who's Who in America??

[mrs. red]

Joran transmitting video, Paulus getting money for big sale, perhaps a snuff video and a certain heroine poster here helping create a scenario to help the K2, all in the early morning hours.  The connection with the K2 to the USA and the reason for the number in Kalpoe's pocket connected to Florida and a cruise ship that deals in human trafficking.

That is hard core, Tylergal!! And as you mentioned Joran contracting a certain virus, I, too, was thinking "Maybe he got something that won't 'wash off'!"

But why would Paulus need to pick up the money at 4 AM specifically?? To help with disposal?

Well it doesn't  make sense that Joran committed this crime and then would have  wanted to watch it?

[JA]

GRRRRRR  I had to get off another message board before I got too angry.  I frequent a crafting site where there is a forum where you can post any topic question etc.  Someone posted that they thought they were going to take a vacation to Aruba in December and wanted feedback, and ideas of where to go from those who had been there.

The first few posts were from people who had been there.  They all said it was flat, and hot, but the beaches were wonderful.  A few posted pics and talked about the hotels they stayed at.  One poster said it wasn't that great and wouldn't go back again.  Then a poster came on and said she wouldn't go there do to the NH case.

Then it got sarcastic and nasty and I couldn't believe the responses by women no less.  I posted agreeing with the woman saying I had followed the case etc. and said if she hadn't booked reservations maybe she should check out some of the other islands.

Here were some of the posters thoughts and most agreed and supported these trains of thoughts.

-If you plan on getting wasted and then going off with guys you don't know, then maybe you should be careful.
-Her parents asked for it with all the trouble they were causing.
-There is no proof these boys did anything and are being victimized.
-The US screws up all the time, maybe we should move out of the US.
-It is no different than the Jon Benet case.
-Maybe foreigners should stop coming to the US and start a boycott for all the things that we do to tourists.
-The poor boys were held for so long and there was no proof they did anything.
-The Aruban people are all wonderful and the island is very safe and serene.
-No body, no case.
-Isolated incident, no concern to them.
-The Aruban governement tried hard to solve this but they just didn't know how.  They have learned a lot from this case and will do better next time.

I needed to get away before I started an argument that would have been lost by myself and the other poster.  I would have hijacked the thread, when the woman just wanted info on Aruba.  I gave my 2 cents.  Hopefully, she will reconsider.

[mrs. red]

GRRRRRR  I had to get off another message board before I got too angry.  I frequent a crafting site where there is a forum where you can post any topic question etc.  Someone posted that they thought they were going to take a vacation to Aruba in December and wanted feedback, and ideas of where to go from those who had been there.

The first few posts were from people who had been there.  They all said it was flat, and hot, but the beaches were wonderful.  A few posted pics and talked about the hotels they stayed at.  One poster said it wasn't that great and wouldn't go back again.  Then a poster came on and said she wouldn't go there do to the NH case.

Then it got sarcastic and nasty and I couldn't believe the responses by women no less.  I posted agreeing with the woman saying I had followed the case etc. and said if she hadn't booked reservations maybe she should check out some of the other islands.

Here were some of the posters thoughts and most agreed and supported these trains of thoughts.

-If you plan on getting wasted and then going off with guys you don't know, then maybe you should be careful.
-Her parents asked for it with all the trouble they were causing.
-There is no proof these boys did anything and are being victimized.
-The US screws up all the time, maybe we should move out of the US.
-It is no different than the Jon Benet case.
-Maybe foreigners should stop coming to the US and start a boycott for all the things that we do to tourists.
-The poor boys were held for so long and there was no proof they did anything.
-The Aruban people are all wonderful and the island is very safe and serene.
-No body, no case.
-Isolated incident, no concern to them.
-The Aruban governement tried hard to solve this but they just didn't know how.  They have learned a lot from this case and will do better next time.I needed to get away before I started an argument that would have been lost by myself and the other poster.  I would have hijacked the thread, when the woman just wanted info on Aruba.  I gave my 2 cents.  Hopefully, she will reconsider.

If she has a brain she will.... I will never understand how people can make these comments... they will do better next time??? THERE SHOULDN"T BE A NEXT TIME>>>>