Lively Case Discussion #493 7/13 - 7/14/2006

[Kimmy53]

I would like to ask a question about the "backseat banger" website that Joran visited...  

Is the whole idea of the website to have someone send in their videos of them....well, in the back seat?

I surely don't want to visit the site, lest I catch something Ajax won't scrub off.

I've noticed a few references to the site here, but wanted to see if my train of thought was the same

[flyingmermaid]

Where did Red post about Backseatbangers - I thought it was the frontpage.

[klaasend]

I would like to ask a question about the "backseat banger" website that Joran visited...  

Is the whole idea of the website to have someone send in their videos of them....well, in the back seat?

I surely don't want to visit the site, lest I catch something Ajax won't scrub off.

I've noticed a few references to the site here, but wanted to see if my train of thought was the same

No, I don't think so.  But the premise is activities in the backseat of the car.  I don't know if they accept amateur videos.

[Kimmy53]

I had an accident yesterday that left me with a abrasion on my cornea.
My dog was wearing a plastic " elizabethan collar"  after being neutered and I picked him up to go upstairs.  He moved his head and the edge of the collar hit me in my right eye.  I knew something was very wrong when clear vision did not come back after an hour and the discomfort intensified; so I drove myself to the hospital (with one eye open).  It is 24 hours later and I have been using the prescribed ointment with the resulting "eye ooze" and fighting a dull headache.  I know there are a lot of animal owners out there and this is a warning to be careful of these collars,  especially if there are young children around.  It is not a pleasant experience but maybe I am lucky I didn't damage my eye more seriously.

OMG leslie!    you take care of yourself... Is it a possibility for you to take a nap?  Just closing your eye for a while may help with the headache...  Who would have thought of something like that happening!

[flyingmermaid]

ouchies Leslie!

Just relax and take it easy.

Speaking of easy where is he?

[Kimmy53]

I would like to ask a question about the "backseat banger" website that Joran visited...  

Is the whole idea of the website to have someone send in their videos of them....well, in the back seat?

I surely don't want to visit the site, lest I catch something Ajax won't scrub off.

I've noticed a few references to the site here, but wanted to see if my train of thought was the same

No, I don't think so.  But the premise is activities in the backseat of the car.  I don't know if they accept amateur videos.

Thanks Klaas.

[hubbylove]

Sorry to hear about your eye Leslie.  I sometimes find it strange how we can injure ourselves doing to simplest things.  It seems whenever my husband or I do something to hurt ourselves it's always something we do everyday but for whatever reason something goes wrong.

Eye issues are so bothersome and I hope you are feeling better real soon!

[hubbylove]

Klaas I am really trying to help get us to page 50 so you can do your thong!!
Just trying to be a helpful monkey!
Cage does seem quiet today.  Hopefully it will pick up later on...

[San]

Hello everyone,

Just wanted to tell you a little conversation I had with my boss yesterday.  She happened to ask me what is happening with the Natalee Holloway case.  As best I could I started telling her some things that Aruba has done.  Then I told her about the porn video.  She stopped me dead in my tracks and said San were the older men involved in this crime.   I said yes there could be besides the actual suspects.  I said to her how did you know to ask me that?  She said they wouldn’t be covering up like they are.  She said it sounds to me that they were using these young kids to get the girls for them.

I usually take pride in knowing certain information before her but this time it only took her a few minutes in a conversation to realize what they did.  It took me a little longer.
 

[msmarple]

Hi Monkeys - Just trying to advance the cause of a thread change.

Since no one else has asked (I don't think) - what's for din dins, FM? What time shall we arrive?  

Klaas - are we okay?

[Shizaru]

I don't know how to post just a photo from a site, but can post photos from a post, can someone post the aerial Palm beach photo here:

http://member.telpacific.com.au/rolyroper/NataleeHolloway/photos/marriotbeachaerialh.jpg

Someone said the other day that the blue areas are the shallows/sandbars, if so you can see there is a  clear shallow area extending pretty much right from the spot where Joran says he left Natalee, out for hundreds of meters

I'm wondering how far out he could have waded with her body, as long as he's was wading and not swimming, if there were an outgoing current on the other side of a sandbar he could have placed her in it without endangering himself

[Kimmy53]

Hello everyone,

Just wanted to tell you a little conversation I had with my boss yesterday.  She happened to ask me what is happening with the Natalee Holloway case.  As best I could I started telling her some things that Aruba has done.  Then I told her about the porn video.  She stopped me dead in my tracks and said San were the older men involved in this crime.   I said yes there could be besides the actual suspects.  I said to her how did you know to ask me that?  She said they wouldn’t be covering up like they are.  She said it sounds to me that they were using these young kids to get the girls for them.

I usually take pride in knowing certain information before her but this time it only took her a few minutes in a conversation to realize what they did.  It took me a little longer.

A rather sickening thought isn't it?  I've always had in the back of my mind that a reason for the cover up wasn't just "who" suspects were, but that there may be some kind of evidence(film) with the older participants in it.  And they probably did this often.
 

[klaasend]

Hi Monkeys - Just trying to advance the cause of a thread change.

Since no one else has asked (I don't think) - what's for din dins, FM? What time shall we arrive?  

Klaas - are we okay?

msmarple - yes we are OK, wasn't your fault as I just found out.

[San]

Hi Monkeys - Just trying to advance the cause of a thread change.

Since no one else has asked (I don't think) - what's for din dins, FM? What time shall we arrive?  

Klaas - are we okay?

I'll help change the thread with you.

[klaasend]

I don't know how to post just a photo from a site, but can post photos from a post, can someone post the aerial Palm beach photo here:



Someone said the other day that the blue areas are the shallows/sandbars, if so you can see there is a  clear shallow area extending pretty much right from the spot where Joran says he left Natalee, out for hundreds of meters

I'm wondering how far out he could have waded with her body, as long as he's was wading and not swimming, if there were an outgoing current on the other side of a sandbar he could have placed her in it without endangering himself

[San]

I see that Anna made her cupcakes smaller.  Nest time I have to bake her smaller ones

[klaasend]

San - check your email please, TIA

[AZSunny]

I don't know how to post just a photo from a site, but can post photos from a post, can someone post the aerial Palm beach photo here:

http://member.telpacific.com.au/rolyroper/NataleeHolloway/photos/marriotbeachaerialh.jpg

Someone said the other day that the blue areas are the shallows/sandbars, if so you can see there is a  clear shallow area extending pretty much right from the spot where Joran says he left Natalee, out for hundreds of meters

I'm wondering how far out he could have waded with her body, as long as he's was wading and not swimming, if there were an outgoing current on the other side of a sandbar he could have placed her in it without endangering himself

this is not the area where the witness saw him walk her into the sea.   it is further to the north(?) top of this picture and around the curve a bit. At least this is my understanding.

[AZSunny]

You can see the light house in the far distance to the top of the picture.  this is where he was seen.

[klaasend]

I don't know how to post just a photo from a site, but can post photos from a post, can someone post the aerial Palm beach photo here:

http://member.telpacific.com.au/rolyroper/NataleeHolloway/photos/marriotbeachaerialh.jpg

Someone said the other day that the blue areas are the shallows/sandbars, if so you can see there is a  clear shallow area extending pretty much right from the spot where Joran says he left Natalee, out for hundreds of meters

I'm wondering how far out he could have waded with her body, as long as he's was wading and not swimming, if there were an outgoing current on the other side of a sandbar he could have placed her in it without endangering himself

this is not the area where the witness saw him walk her into the sea.   it is further to the north(?) top of this picture and around the curve a bit. At least this is my understanding.

That's correct, the Columbian witness saw them at the northern tip of the island, not near the Marriott.