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« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2010, 09:50:21 PM »

billb....great email to Jean.  Hopefully you'll get  a response.  Ya'll amaze me still with your research and such.

Carpe.... you always crack me up.

I know this isn't the place but if ya'll would keep my brother Royce in your prayers.  Last June he was diagnosed with cancer on his voice-box, and the lymph nodes in his neck.  They removed the top of his voice-box, and lymph nodes.  He was still able to speak.  He went through a horrible time of radiation and chemo.  By October he was pretty much back to normal except for the amount of weight he lost, and most everything still taste terrible.  He only weighs about 130 lbs now.  Last week after biopsy's, cat scans, pet scans they have found that the cancer has returned on each side of his neck.  He goes this week for an ultrasound and to decide what the plan is.  I don't know if he has any fight left in him.  He looks horrible.  His face is really swollen, and........well I just don't have a good feeling about this.  He's 68.  His wife Tommie died 2 years ago this coming Mother's Day.  I've lost so many people the past few years.

Your prayers would be greatly appreciated for Royce.

Thank you monkey friends

I'm so sorry Snoopy, I hope they can find a plan that will get him through this again.

(((hugs))) and prayers!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2010, 09:56:15 PM »

Thank you everybody.  I do appreciate it

carry on come across and all that.
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« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2010, 09:56:38 PM »

billb....great email to Jean.  Hopefully you'll get  a response.  Ya'll amaze me still with your research and such.

Carpe.... you always crack me up.

I know this isn't the place but if ya'll would keep my brother Royce in your prayers.  Last June he was diagnosed with cancer on his voice-box, and the lymph nodes in his neck.  They removed the top of his voice-box, and lymph nodes.  He was still able to speak.  He went through a horrible time of radiation and chemo.  By October he was pretty much back to normal except for the amount of weight he lost, and most everything still taste terrible.  He only weighs about 130 lbs now.  Last week after biopsy's, cat scans, pet scans they have found that the cancer has returned on each side of his neck.  He goes this week for an ultrasound and to decide what the plan is.  I don't know if he has any fight left in him.  He looks horrible.  His face is really swollen, and........well I just don't have a good feeling about this.  He's 68.  His wife Tommie died 2 years ago this coming Mother's Day.  I've lost so many people the past few years.

Your prayers would be greatly appreciated for Royce.

Thank you monkey friends

 an angelic monkey
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« Reply #103 on: March 15, 2010, 09:57:47 PM »

Aruba - A Murderer`s Paradise

This thing reads like a child wrote it.

Aruba safety rules:

The thing to remember is that although Aruba is one of the very safe places on earth which is why most of us love it, it isn't crime free. The island has been working very hard to get rid of the illegals. It is a difficult job since it is an island. You know what we have in our country at our borders so you can imagine what a problem it would be if all of our property was surrounded by ocean. Illegals are responsible for a majority of the crimes but obviously not all of them. The court system is similar to ours and penalties are in most cases as severe or more so than those in the USA. The jail has a great view but no air conditioning so you do not really want to break any laws. Also, tourists are just as guilty of crimes such as theft as anyone else. Many tourists come in on cruise boats and leave with a lot more than they started with.

So let me start the list with the most important warning to tourists. This is the one that involves your own behavior. Then I will go on to all of the safety items. Then a special set of rules for parents and teens.
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Always remember that if you break the law and get caught you don't have immunity. You will spend a lot of time in jail waiting for the court case. They aren't going to be lenient just because you are a tourist. Ignorance of the law is no excuse in Aruba either. Therefore, don't do anything in Aruba that is illegal at home. Drugs are illegal. Don't do them. You have just as much chance of dealing with an undercover cop as you do a real dealer. You are a guest in their country and as a guest you need to respect their laws.
Remember that nowhere is perfect. Crime happens. Crime happens to nice people. Always pretend you are in your home town. Follow the rules you would use there.
Your room or hotel desk has a safe that is at your disposal. Put everything you can in it. Do not leave your camera out. Do not leave your jewelry out. Remember, you used or wore these things already. A thief has already seen these items. A thief is already lurking somewhere to take them if you allow him to. Lock that safe! Take the key with you. Do not leave the key 'hidden' in the room. That ingenious hiding place is the first place a good thief will look. Most keys do not have a key ring. Buy one of those stretchy bracelets or a metal chain so that the key can be on your person no matter where you are.
Do not leave your camera, wallet or any other valuable in your beach bag. If you can't take it in the water or can't bear losing it, leave it in your room or after you use it take it back to your room.
Do not flash your money around in the casino. Wait until you are in your room to count your wins or losses. Keep only the money you want to spend in an easy to reach place.
Lock your car and leave nothing where anyone can see it. Jeeps are prime targets. They have no hiding places. Take nothing of value with you when you drive.
Many tourists come in on cruise ships and leave several hours later with very full pockets. These pockets are full of wallets, cameras, and everything else that you left unlocked or exposed.

 
Rules for parents
The world is not safe. Remember that.
Teens are gullible.
Teens will do things when parents aren't there that they would be scared to death to do at home.
Don't think that because there is a chaperon your child is safe. Have you ever tried to watch a dozen teens?
Don't let your teen go out alone. Give instructions to all who are going together to keep track of each other. You might want to bring walkie talkies or rent cell phones so they are always able to contact you or each other.
Teens do even more foolish things after a drink or two. They don't have to be falling down drunk to lose their inhibitions. Set limits and keep to them. Just because it is legal to drink doesn't mean that it is necessary to drink.
Keep certain places off limits. Although 18 is the legal age to drink in Aruba, the rule is very lax as it is in many countries. Keep places off limits that you don't want your kids going to. Kids do stupid things. Keep repeating that as a chant.
If your teens are going to Aruba without you, insist that they stay in the high rise area. Although I love the low rise area and it is great, it is open, spacious, and rather boring for teens. In the high rise area there are things to do and places to go that give them some place a little safer to be.
Very simple rule. If you don't trust your teen or their friends at home, don't trust them in Aruba.

 
Rules for teens
You are not invincible. You can get hurt, raped, or even very permanently dead.
If you are looking forward to scoring some pot or ludes or anything else, don't. they are just as illegal in Aruba as in the good old USA. Undercover cops love to sell these things and put cuffs on you. Jail stinks anywhere.
Strangers are not your friends. They may become your friends sooner or later but they are not automatically your friends because they are cute or cool. They will give you the same lines you hear at home. Don't believe them just because they are foreign.
Don't travel alone. Always have at least one person with you. There is safety in numbers. Let someone know where you will be at all times.
Remember that what you do will always get back to your parents. You know it will. It always does.

by Sherry, Super Moderator of the Aruba Forums


Wonder what she suggests for those tourists that wake up with thieves in their hotel rooms!

It doesn't matter if you leave anything in the car or not, they'll break a window and steal the radio; if they don't just take the car and strip it for parts.  That "V" on the license plate lets everyone know that any damage will be charged to the tourists credit card!

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2010, 10:07:40 PM »

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2010, 10:10:05 PM »

Always remember that if you break the law and get caught you don't have immunity. You will spend a lot of time in jail waiting for the court case. They aren't going to be lenient just because you are a tourist.

No, they are only lenient when your father works in the prosecutor`s office!

Then you will get special visits and a smuggled in cell phone.
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« Reply #106 on: March 15, 2010, 10:13:52 PM »

billb....great email to Jean.  Hopefully you'll get  a response.  Ya'll amaze me still with your research and such.

Carpe.... you always crack me up.

I know this isn't the place but if ya'll would keep my brother Royce in your prayers.  Last June he was diagnosed with cancer on his voice-box, and the lymph nodes in his neck.  They removed the top of his voice-box, and lymph nodes.  He was still able to speak.  He went through a horrible time of radiation and chemo.  By October he was pretty much back to normal except for the amount of weight he lost, and most everything still taste terrible.  He only weighs about 130 lbs now.  Last week after biopsy's, cat scans, pet scans they have found that the cancer has returned on each side of his neck.  He goes this week for an ultrasound and to decide what the plan is.  I don't know if he has any fight left in him.  He looks horrible.  His face is really swollen, and........well I just don't have a good feeling about this.  He's 68.  His wife Tommie died 2 years ago this coming Mother's Day.  I've lost so many people the past few years.

Your prayers would be greatly appreciated for Royce.

Thank you monkey friends

Hi Snoop - my prayers are on the way. I'm sooo sorry to hear that Royce is facing such challenges.

My grandfather was REALLLLY close to God... and when he died, he seemed to want to pass that little aspect on to someone - looks like I got it. When he died he flew right through my brother - and my brother's eyes kinda popped out a little  - and then my grandfather decided he was gonna jump into the "gold digger's" body one last time.. and she fainted... but he wasn't done YET... and came around the room kamikaze style and gave me a big smooooch  and off he went through the glass door... .. it's kinda funny he kissed me cause the last word he spoke was "Robbie" just a day earlier...true story - oh it's true sister!!  an angelic monkey death can be amazing - but only for someone as old as my grandfather...

Prayers on the way!!
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« Reply #107 on: March 15, 2010, 10:19:14 PM »

I guess the divorce is final now.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #108 on: March 15, 2010, 10:21:05 PM »

billb....great email to Jean.  Hopefully you'll get  a response.  Ya'll amaze me still with your research and such.

Carpe.... you always crack me up.

I know this isn't the place but if ya'll would keep my brother Royce in your prayers.  Last June he was diagnosed with cancer on his voice-box, and the lymph nodes in his neck.  They removed the top of his voice-box, and lymph nodes.  He was still able to speak.  He went through a horrible time of radiation and chemo.  By October he was pretty much back to normal except for the amount of weight he lost, and most everything still taste terrible.  He only weighs about 130 lbs now.  Last week after biopsy's, cat scans, pet scans they have found that the cancer has returned on each side of his neck.  He goes this week for an ultrasound and to decide what the plan is.  I don't know if he has any fight left in him.  He looks horrible.  His face is really swollen, and........well I just don't have a good feeling about this.  He's 68.  His wife Tommie died 2 years ago this coming Mother's Day.  I've lost so many people the past few years.

Your prayers would be greatly appreciated for Royce.

Thank you monkey friends

I'll add your brother Royce to my prayers.  It's good to see you snoopy.   
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« Reply #109 on: March 15, 2010, 10:21:25 PM »

I guess the divorce is final now.



Or maybe she has remarried?
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« Reply #110 on: March 15, 2010, 10:26:32 PM »

I guess the divorce is final now.

I`ve seen her quite a few times. Nice white teeth, but when she smiles she always looks
like she is holding back a gigantic buzzard that would level plate glass windows if cut loose.

Anita always looks like that too.
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« Reply #111 on: March 15, 2010, 10:34:49 PM »

I guess the divorce is final now.

I`ve seen her quite a few times. Nice white teeth, but when she smiles she always looks
like she is holding back a gigantic buzzard that would level plate glass windows if cut loose.

Anita always looks like that too.


Heaven forbid that Marlene and Anita should let em go at the same time. Monkey Devil!
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« Reply #112 on: March 15, 2010, 10:48:42 PM »

billb....great email to Jean.  Hopefully you'll get  a response.  Ya'll amaze me still with your research and such.

Carpe.... you always crack me up.

I know this isn't the place but if ya'll would keep my brother Royce in your prayers.  Last June he was diagnosed with cancer on his voice-box, and the lymph nodes in his neck.  They removed the top of his voice-box, and lymph nodes.  He was still able to speak.  He went through a horrible time of radiation and chemo.  By October he was pretty much back to normal except for the amount of weight he lost, and most everything still taste terrible.  He only weighs about 130 lbs now.  Last week after biopsy's, cat scans, pet scans they have found that the cancer has returned on each side of his neck.  He goes this week for an ultrasound and to decide what the plan is.  I don't know if he has any fight left in him.  He looks horrible.  His face is really swollen, and........well I just don't have a good feeling about this.  He's 68.  His wife Tommie died 2 years ago this coming Mother's Day.  I've lost so many people the past few years.

Your prayers would be greatly appreciated for Royce.

Thank you monkey friends
snoopy,
My prayers go out to your brother Royce and your families....
God Bless.... an angelic monkey
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« Reply #113 on: March 15, 2010, 10:55:50 PM »

This is the only reply I've received so far....auto reply within moments of when I sent it out....so at least her email seems current.....

Out of Office AutoReply: Aruba - Natalee Holloway
Akers, Jean E [AkersJE@state.gov]
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Hello, I will be out of the office the afternoon of Friday, March 12 with the 151st A100 class.  If this is urgent, please contact Helen Kelly in HR/CDA/EL.  Otherwise I will respond when I return to the office on Monday. Best regards, Jean
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« Reply #114 on: March 15, 2010, 10:56:48 PM »

I guess the divorce is final now.

I`ve seen her quite a few times. Nice white teeth, but when she smiles she always looks
like she is holding back a gigantic buzzard that would level plate glass windows if cut loose.

Anita always looks like that too.


Heaven forbid that Marlene and Anita should let em go at the same time. Monkey Devil!

 Monkey Devil!

They`d cancel each other out... much the same principal as fighting wild fires.

Seriously though -

When they smile, they are just showing teeth. It is because deep down inside, they are unhappy women.

There are facial muscles that they aren`t using when they smile.

They are faking it... in most of the shots I`ve seen.

...and it doesn`t take a specialist to be able to spot it, either. It is pretty glaring.
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« Reply #115 on: March 15, 2010, 10:59:56 PM »



 
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« Reply #116 on: March 15, 2010, 11:01:31 PM »



 

    Good one carpe    It's so good to have you back.   
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 Monkey Devil! Monkey Devil!

Thanks MuffyBee.... good to be here!!!
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« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2010, 11:06:44 PM »

I'm pretty sure it won't amount to anything worthwhile....but since I have a moment...I sent the following to jean akers....
'AkersJE@state.gov'
Thanks TM for posting the email address.....

Ms. Akers,

You were the vice-consul for the USA to the Netherlands when Natalee Holloway went missing in May 2005. What was your role and what did you do to protect the interests of Natalee and her parents: Beth Holloway Twitty and Dave Holloway during that time?

From Beth’s book, the following was stated: Please provide information on your role.

Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway

Page 185:  The island authorities originally planned to release the three suspects at two o-clock in the morning on Saturday, September 3.  The Strategic Communications Task Force undoubtedly helped them make a less conspicuous move and release them in the afternoon instead.  Curious to see the setup at the van der Sloot house for Joran's parade of victory, I drive by there, never in a million years expecting to see who is there.  It's the U.S. vice-consul.  At the van der Sloots' house.  Why is she here?   She spots me.  Jumps in her car and follows me to a restaurant parking lot, waving, honking, calling on the cell phone.  I don't want to talk to her.  Who can we trust?

Thank you for your time.

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« Reply #119 on: March 15, 2010, 11:08:36 PM »



 

 

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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