Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

[Tamikosmom]

2NJ

I do not have a clue who is the author of this comment.  The only interest I have in the post is that on December 21, 2007 ... this poster was privy to info regarding the trap ... the trap that had yet to be discovered by the Persistence.

There are definitely questions that require answers but ... this poster confirmed Kyle Kingman's own words in regards to his analysis of the contents within that trap.

Janet

[2NJSons_Mom]

2NJ

I do not have a clue who is the author of this comment.  The only interest I have in the post is that on December 21, 2007 ... this poster was privy to info regarding the trap ... the trap that had yet to be discovered by the Persistence.

There are definitely questions that require answers but ... this poster confirmed Kyle Kingman's own words in regards to his analysis of the contents within that trap.

Janet

That's exactly why I asked the question, Janet.  My comprehension is still intact.   

[texasmom]

I posted a video in Musings this morning in honor of Good Friday...

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6570.msg1103750#msg1103750

[jen3560]

Good points jen.  However, I don't think any of those protesting have ever been ashamed for a second.  Any part of that group that John Merryweather and/or Julia Renfro were able to gather to protest anything regarding Natalee's case were more than likely some that would also be subject to the same "special treatment" that Cheremy Croes was afforded in that car accident.  Both protests that I'm aware of in July and Nov 2005 were actually a small number of people in relation to the population.

I think the SILENT MAJORITY of the people in Aruba knew in their hearts, from what they'd witnessed through the years, exactly what was happening with Natalee's case.  That same majority watches in disgust every time Joran van der Sloot benefits yet again from his crime and reminds the world what he and his father and friends got away with in Aruba.  You would think they might be disgusted enough at this point to make Joran feel a little unwelcome sitting around on the beach...gambling in the casinos...and whatever else he's doing when he's there.  But instead, their silence continues.  The murderers are free to do as they please, and Aruba will forever have a black cloud over it.

If anyone watched the funeral procession of the Franken family members that were killed, and the numbers of people who lined the streets with tears streaming down their faces.  The devastated school children being comforted by their parents at the loss of their 12 year old friend Lorraine, releasing balloons in her memory...  The many college students who watched Mrs. Franken being presented her son Randy's diploma that he should have received at his graduation, at the back of the hearse carrying his body ...  The grown men shedding tears at the loss of their friend Walter, from my understanding someone who would help anyone in need... 

Well, the numbers were much greater than in either of the protests from 2005.  Many of those same people were at the site of the accident the night it happened, they saw the blood being taken from Walter's arm before he was removed from the car he died in.  They all know the other driver was excluded from the same test.  If they didn't witness it themselves, we all know how fast everyone on the island knew it!

Will they get behind this family of THEIR OWN and demand that this family receive the answers they deserve...demand justice?  Or will they continue to remain silent?
I guess we'll have to wait and see...

Photos of the Franken family:

http://wrl-franken.gonetoosoon.org/photos/list/

You expressed this so beautifully, TxMom.  Thank you.

I hope they don't continue to remain silent.  I hope they rain hell on Aruban authorities to any and everyone who will listen.

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Natalee's Candles

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0

[Anna]

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

BOYCOTT ARUBA--JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

Comments:

DEA can fire on ALE said...
ALE are tapping on the cellphone towers to listen on Persistence's wireless. They bugged the timeshare like Mos did without a court order. Periscopes are mounted on top of the high rises to watch the crew and operations. The Dutch spy satellite is tracking every inch of Persistence's movement. They are very unhappy about the clear sonar images. One image is of a drug submarine sunked by the coast guard. The other one image is the anchor and chain used to weight down a crab cage of a missing American's body. The crab cage is somewhere separated and sitting nearby. Persistence did not provide that image. It may be Natalee is inside the cage. This morning is super emotional and silent. John, Tim and Kyle are studying the closer snapshot of the crab cage. Something look like tennis shoes and a big knife inside. Some bones with some blue fabric around them. Most likely they belong to Natalee. The ALE are waiting for the warrant signed by judge Bob Witt to board Persistence and take over. However, the Persistence has the protection of the DEA helicopters. They can fire the hellfire missiles on the ALE boats. Aruba wants to make Persistence an international crisis to coverup it's cold case.

December 21, 2007 11:33:00 AM EST

http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/2007/12/just-in-natalees-case-closed.html


oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #777 11/21/08 thru
« Reply #707 on: November 23, 2008, 03:31:18 PM »

I found the trap sonar target at 1:42 am on Christmas morning.  I was asked if I had any targets to investigate with the ROV on Dev 29th.  I did.  We then performed the 1st ROV dive and confirmed the sonar target was the trap.  This was the first ROV dive performed.  No other dives were performed prior to this.  I kept the sonar target list very confidential.  I didn't need people knowing about it and people on board knew well enough not even to ask.  When it was time to dive I have the target location. Until then, it was kept confidential.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.msg554268;topicseen#msg554268

That post by DEA can fire is utter nonsense.  Of course, the DEA cannot fire on officials of any sovreign state especially one that is a protectorate of an ally.  Hellfire missiles for a little rubber boat?   Bit much, I'd think.

The chain an anchor were published very early on to demonstrate the capabilities of the ROV and anyone could have found that information.  As for Dutch satellites tracking their every move, same, no credibility as would have to already be in orbit right over a tiny operation.

I wouldn't take this post too seriously as it lost me at the  hellfire missile part.  The rest was easily gleaned from the imagination of what I would guess to be a 14 year old mind.

[texasmom]

Good points jen.  However, I don't think any of those protesting have ever been ashamed for a second.  Any part of that group that John Merryweather and/or Julia Renfro were able to gather to protest anything regarding Natalee's case were more than likely some that would also be subject to the same "special treatment" that Cheremy Croes was afforded in that car accident.  Both protests that I'm aware of in July and Nov 2005 were actually a small number of people in relation to the population.

I think the SILENT MAJORITY of the people in Aruba knew in their hearts, from what they'd witnessed through the years, exactly what was happening with Natalee's case.  That same majority watches in disgust every time Joran van der Sloot benefits yet again from his crime and reminds the world what he and his father and friends got away with in Aruba.  You would think they might be disgusted enough at this point to make Joran feel a little unwelcome sitting around on the beach...gambling in the casinos...and whatever else he's doing when he's there.  But instead, their silence continues.  The murderers are free to do as they please, and Aruba will forever have a black cloud over it.

If anyone watched the funeral procession of the Franken family members that were killed, and the numbers of people who lined the streets with tears streaming down their faces.  The devastated school children being comforted by their parents at the loss of their 12 year old friend Lorraine, releasing balloons in her memory...  The many college students who watched Mrs. Franken being presented her son Randy's diploma that he should have received at his graduation, at the back of the hearse carrying his body ...  The grown men shedding tears at the loss of their friend Walter, from my understanding someone who would help anyone in need... 

Well, the numbers were much greater than in either of the protests from 2005.  Many of those same people were at the site of the accident the night it happened, they saw the blood being taken from Walter's arm before he was removed from the car he died in.  They all know the other driver was excluded from the same test.  If they didn't witness it themselves, we all know how fast everyone on the island knew it!

Will they get behind this family of THEIR OWN and demand that this family receive the answers they deserve...demand justice?  Or will they continue to remain silent?
I guess we'll have to wait and see...

Photos of the Franken family:

http://wrl-franken.gonetoosoon.org/photos/list/

You expressed this so beautifully, TxMom.  Thank you.

I hope they don't continue to remain silent.  I hope they rain hell on Aruban authorities to any and everyone who will listen.

Me too, Jen.  

I think it will be interesting to see how many of the other papers carry the article that Diario published too...

[texasmom]

Many more photos at the links:

April 2, 2010

http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/?p=846

Parokia di Dakota



http://www.awemainta.com/noticia/?p=889

Prosesion Braziel

[Anna]

http://www.waarisjoran.nl/spots

I believe they are saying this photo is from 03/18/2010

18/03/2010 Moomba Beach Aruba - Anonymous
Photo of him. He sat in a beach hut. What he does now I do not know.

Thanks for posting this, Klaas.

It's good to know what the one actually responsible for Natalee's disappearance is up to these days.

I wonder if he plans to continue to live off his mother, bumming it around Aruba indefinitely.  Doesn't appear he is in any hurry to get back to running "his" coffee shop, lol.

For me, it will always be NO SLOOT, NO JUSTICE and everything else is secondary and pretty much speculation and open to interpretation.


Hanging out at the beach swilling beer seems right up Joran's alley.  He's getting pretty old to still be mooching off his mommy.  And he is going to bring negative attention to Aruba every time he is spotted!


    (Love this smilie!)

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/17823/5/

Looks like Papito Comenencia was part of the procession too...

[Anna]

TxMom,

I neve knew the Roman Soldiers wore stainless steel wrist watches before, lol.


 

[texasmom]

TxMom,

I neve knew the Roman Soldiers wore stainless steel wrist watches before, lol.


 

I noticed that too!   

He must have needed to keep an eye on the time for an appointment or something.  In glancing through I don't see him in the later pictures.

[2NJSons_Mom]

TxMom,

I neve knew the Roman Soldiers wore stainless steel wrist watches before, lol.


 

    Good eye, Anna.....He must have lost his helmet in battle, too....

[texasmom]

TxMom,

I neve knew the Roman Soldiers wore stainless steel wrist watches before, lol.


 

    Good eye, Anna.....He must have lost his helmet in battle, too....

I don't think those helmets would feel too good on a bald head!   

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/17818/5/

Papiamentu translation:

jeehah part saturday y diadomingo at alto vista

friday, 02 april 2010 - 11:12

saturday 3 y diadomingo 4 of april, will bay have the jeehah party, cu more of 40 type of beast. this will bay so owing to alto vista 116. click read more for more info... bestianan cu the children can waak is among another colebra, great curassow, crane bird, ocelot tiger, bengal cat, dwarf goat, emu, wacamaya, yellow crowned amazon, ring neck parakeet, cockatoo, cockatoo moluccan, white eyed conure, toucan, eclectus parrot, prikichi, zebra’s, cow, bull, pigs, mini pigs, mule, pony, miniature horse, miniature donkey, cayman, ganso, duck, turtuga, morcoy, caracara, alpacas, macaco, axes deer, skunk y red kangaroo. entrance will is unicamente afls 3,- y will bay have much actividad, among another give the bestianan cuminda, pony ride, koets ride, dino jump y pintamento of cara. come disfruta of the habitat for animalnan rescata y alavez happen sweet dianan of party.

[jen3560]

I'm presuming this is also a song lyric that Joran posted (like the others before), but am not sure, and thought this one worthy of providing us with a thought to keep a smile on our faces going into the weekend.  Waiting for Karma to come back around:


Joran Van Der Sloot

Luck is nothing but Karma in workloads, - cause and effect.
8 hours ago

[jen3560]

Have a great weekend Monkeys, and a wonderful Easter 

[texasmom]

Have a great weekend Monkeys, and a wonderful Easter 

You too jen!   

[texasmom]

Truth and Justice for Natalee!

[sharon]

I'm presuming this is also a song lyric that Joran posted (like the others before), but am not sure, and thought this one worthy of providing us with a thought to keep a smile on our faces going into the weekend.  Waiting for Karma to come back around:


Joran Van Der Sloot

Luck is nothing but Karma in workloads, - cause and effect.
8 hours ago

 

I don't think it's a song this time......he is just getting 'deep' into his Buddhist teachings. 

What a fat lard head he is 


Blessed Easter holiday to my monkey friends....and always remember....


AVOID ARUBA AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT...IT DOES!!!
Justice for Natalee Holloway
Peace for her family and loved ones