Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

[Frijole]

I think Refugeesunleashed.net is gone 

  Wonder what happened?  Did they all kill each other or did it just implode? 

Do we get to choose?

 

[Tamikosmom]

I think Refugeesunleashed.net is gone 

I can still able to read that sight.  Maybe I am priviledged.  At one time I was afforded my own thread at that site ... maybe it is still there.  The thread was named TAMIKOSBUM.

 

Janet
2:55 PM PT

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http://refugeesunleashed.net/

[AZSunny]

ANTILLA WRECK

Couple finds 'skeleton' in Aruba picture
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Mar 18, 2010 00:06 EST
Oranjestad

The couples remember the site was near a shipwreck, though which one of the numerous wrecks off the western coast of Aruba is unclear. The most popular snorkeling and scuba site there is near the Antilla, a German freighter that was scuttled in World War II.

Patti Muldowney went snorkeling with the Dimms while her husband stayed above on a catamaran. She had purchased a disposable camera and was taking pictures from just under the water's surface.

"It was kind of hard, my first time taking pictures. You can see a little bit of the wreckage, so I saw it down there and snapped it," said Patti Muldowney, who works in the billing department at Luther Acres

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/249987


NANCY GRACE
Does Underwater Photo Show Natalee`s Remains?
Aired March 19, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: Now, the other thing -- Rupa Mikkilineni, our producer on the story. Rupa, I`ve done a lot of underwater dives. And isn`t it true that this alleged sighting of a human skeleton is near what we call a wreck dive? There are some German ships that are sunk, that have been sunk there, and people go dive and look around, as best they can safely, around that area?

RUPA MIKKILINENI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. It was a German shipwreck in 1945 called the Antilla, which went down, sank, and is in that area. The ship can actually be seen from aerial shots through the water`s surface. And this snorkeling area is quite close to this shipwreck.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/ng.01.html


Scuba Diving Aruba

Antilla Wreck (60 feet)-
Arashi Wreck (35-60 feet)-
California Wreck (30 - 45 feet)-
Debbie Wreck (70 feet)-
Pedernales Wreck (35 feet)-
Tugboat Wreck (40 - 90 feet)-

http://www.arubabound.com/dive/dive.htm

I have seen the Antilla wreck and it is quite deep.  There is no way she can take that clear of a picture from just under the surface of the water, to the floor and get that clear of a picture.  She must have been in much shallower water, unless she had a very expensive underwater camera with a zoom.   It is kind of cloudy water there when there is rouch seas, or the sand has been turned up by the boats in the area. 

[AZSunny]

I think Refugeesunleashed.net is gone 

I can still able to read that sight.  Maybe I am priviledged.  At one time I was afforded my own thread at that site ... maybe it is still there.  The thread was named TAMIKOSBUM.

 

Janet
2:55 PM PT

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http://refugeesunleashed.net/

I can still read there too.    (that is funny Janet...)

[cw618]

snipped
Aruban authorities said they would dispatch a dive team to what they think is the site...which the Pennsylvania couple could not pinpoint.
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/No-Word-From-Aruba-About-Holloway-Search/SToCz9sBf06_zP3kna8lrQ.cspx

to the Aruban authorities thats enough BS already.
now how hard could it be for the cops there to figure out where Patti Muldowney
snorkeled, i used two clues 1.catamaran 2.Royal Caribbean cruise lines,
and found the red sail co. in like 10min.they contract with the cruise line
and another 15min. to list other companies that use a catamaran, all of them go
to the Antilla wreck, no mention by the companies, of other wrecks, they snorkel
or cruise lines they service if any. maybe the cops dont have internet service in aruba

qoute from lancaster online.com
They and another couple from Lititz had taken a catamaran out to a snorkeling site
http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/249987


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catamaran snorkel trips and companies aruba

im almost sure it was this company the Royal Caribbean cruise used
see link

Activities will vary depending on your cruise ships arrival time and length of stay in port. Please check with your Activities Coordinator for more information on what is available. Also, dive reservations should be made on board your cruise ship, so please contact your Activities Coordinator. We are the on-island dive operator for the following cruise lines:

Royal Caribbean
Princess Cruises
RCCL / Celebrity Cruises
Fred Olson

http://www.redsailaruba.com/en/activities/cruiseShipVisitors.html

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same co. above red sail, and they go to the Antilla Wreck

Travel on a luxurious catamaran across the turquoise waters of Aruba. Explore some of the finest snorkeling spots in the area, where colorful marine life is abundant. One of the snorkel stops is at the famous wreck of the Antilla where you will see a 400-foot sunken German freighter. The catamarans feature
Time: 9:15am - 1:15pm
Duration: 4 hrs
Days: Sunday, Monday, Wednesday & Friday
Departure Location: The Hyatt pier located between the Hyatt and Occidental Resorts on Palm Beach.
http://www.redsailaruba.com/modules/resqwest/display_activity_details/1848
http://www.redsailaruba.com/en/about/renaissance-resort.html
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Our famous Sail & Snorkel tripAre you ready for a great time? Come join us on the Arusun!
This 65-foot catamaran is your ticket to the best
snorkel sites on the island. We will take you to the
Arashi or Malmok reef and the Antilla shipwreck.
These reefs are perfect for those who have never
snorkeled before; shallow calm water and plenty to see. 
After practicing here we will take you to the
largest WW II shipwreck of the Caribbean, the Antilla.
This 400 foot freighter was scuttled in May 1940.
She is lying on her port side in 50 foot of water,
but because of the size of the ship her hull and parts
of the mast even break the surface!

We provide you with snorkel equipment and instruction. On board we will serve you with alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages, snacks, music and dancing.

All ingredients to guarantee you a GREAT time!

Snorkel & Sail: Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday - 2:00pm - 4:30pm - $30.00

http://www.arubawatersportcenter.com/content/content_sailtrips.htm
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Discover Snorkeling’ Cruise
A 2 ½ hour sailing trip including open bar, snacks, music, and snorkeling. Both water activities include equipment and instruction at no additional cost. Our catamaran has shaded areas for those who feel they have already had enough sun for the day, and we make two snorkel stops; the famous WWII German shipwreck ‘Antilla’ and Arashi Reef.

Departure: Pelican Pier (located between Playa Linda & Holiday Inn)

http://www.pelican-aruba.com/sailing_cruises.php

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Equipment and Instruction included with all snorkel trips. Discounted rates for children 12 and under. Special Discounted rates for groups of 6 or more. Attractive charter rates for private groups.
 Departing from the pier between Holiday Inn and Playa Linda, For Information and Reservations

 Snorkel-Sailing Cruises Welcome Aboard!   
Half Day Champagne Brunch!
9 am to 12:30 pm
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday

Daily Afternoon Delight
1:30 pm to 4 pm
Monday through Friday
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SNORKEL THE FAMOUS SHIPWRECK "ANTILLA
9:30 to 12:30 MORNING SNORKEL ADVENTURE
   
 
      * 2 SNORKEL STOPS
       (1 Shallow Reefs & the Shipwreck)
     * PICNIC STYLE LUNCH
     * FREE OPEN BAR (Soft & Mixed Drinks)
     * FREE SNORKEL EQUIP. & LESSON
 
http://www.arubawavedancer.com/wavedancer/cruises.html

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Sea-Venture
Now you can go with us on a beautiful 41 feet trimaran and enjoy a relaxing 3-hour sailing trip where you get the chance to snorkel in crystal clear water at two different places, Boca Catalina and the famous shipwreck " the Antilla",

http://www.angelfire.com/sports/snorkeling/index_files/links.htm

 

[Tamikosmom]

ANTILLA WRECK

Couple finds 'skeleton' in Aruba picture
Intelligencer Journal
Lancaster New Era
Mar 18, 2010 00:06 EST
Oranjestad

The couples remember the site was near a shipwreck, though which one of the numerous wrecks off the western coast of Aruba is unclear. The most popular snorkeling and scuba site there is near the Antilla, a German freighter that was scuttled in World War II.

Patti Muldowney went snorkeling with the Dimms while her husband stayed above on a catamaran. She had purchased a disposable camera and was taking pictures from just under the water's surface.

"It was kind of hard, my first time taking pictures. You can see a little bit of the wreckage, so I saw it down there and snapped it," said Patti Muldowney, who works in the billing department at Luther Acres

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/249987


NANCY GRACE
Does Underwater Photo Show Natalee`s Remains?
Aired March 19, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: Now, the other thing -- Rupa Mikkilineni, our producer on the story. Rupa, I`ve done a lot of underwater dives. And isn`t it true that this alleged sighting of a human skeleton is near what we call a wreck dive? There are some German ships that are sunk, that have been sunk there, and people go dive and look around, as best they can safely, around that area?

RUPA MIKKILINENI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. It was a German shipwreck in 1945 called the Antilla, which went down, sank, and is in that area. The ship can actually be seen from aerial shots through the water`s surface. And this snorkeling area is quite close to this shipwreck.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1003/19/ng.01.html


Scuba Diving Aruba

Antilla Wreck (60 feet)-
Arashi Wreck (35-60 feet)-
California Wreck (30 - 45 feet)-
Debbie Wreck (70 feet)-
Pedernales Wreck (35 feet)-
Tugboat Wreck (40 - 90 feet)-

http://www.arubabound.com/dive/dive.htm

I have seen the Antilla wreck and it is quite deep.  There is no way she can take that clear of a picture from just under the surface of the water, to the floor and get that clear of a picture.  She must have been in much shallower water, unless she had a very expensive underwater camera with a zoom.   It is kind of cloudy water there when there is rouch seas, or the sand has been turned up by the boats in the area. 

Hi AZSunny

It has been a while.  I hope all is well with you and your family.

Apparently the Aruban "powers that be" may have it figured out.  Trust them.

 

Janet

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Natalee Holloway's Remains? Aruba Divers to Examine Area
Snorkeling Couple Believe They Might Have Photographed Missing Teen's Skeleton off Aruba
By CHRISTINE BROUWER and RUSSELL GOLDMAN
March 20, 2010

Ann Angela, a spokeswoman for the public prosecutor's office in Aruba, said she was not authorized to say when or where the dive would take place, except that it will happen "in the very near future." Officials likely will have the results of the preliminary investigation by Sunday or Monday.

The underwater photograph of the sea floor depicts a rough outline that the couple believes resembles a human skeleton, according to the Intelligencer Journal/Lancaster New Era, which first published the photo on Thursday.

Patti Muldowney, 62, of Rapho Township, Pa., took the photo while snorkeling off the Caribbean island but "only discovered it after we got the film developed," she told the paper of the body-shaped image in the picture.

"We have received the photo," Angela said. "The problem is that the couple cannot say exactly where they took the picture. They cannot point to the exact location. But someone has now come forward who believes that they know the spot. So we are going to do a preliminary investigation, which means a dive team will be dispatched to that location."

Angela couldn't reveal the identity of the person who recognized the underwater location of the photo -- but said it's likely a local who dives often and knows the waters around the island well.

Angela previously said evidence found during any dive to investigate the photo would be sent to the Dutch Forensic Institute in The Hague.

She added that it was not uncommon for human remains to be found off the coast and cautioned that even if a body was discovered it might not be Holloway.

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/natalee-holloways-remains-aruba-divers-examine-area-couple/story?id=10156542&page=2

[carpe noctem]

Rob Smith's Biography

Rob Smith Rob Smith President & CEO, AHATA Rob combines a wealth of hospitality knowledge and expertise with a personal passion for the island of Aruba. He has held various positions within the hospitality industry, serving at the general manager level for 15 years. Most recently, he served as general manager of the Westin Aruba and vice president of the ownership group of Aruba Hotel Enterprises (AHE), with which he led strategic initiatives in identifying new business opportunities as well as developing strategic partnerships. He was recognized as the Hotelier of the Year in 2005, and has been appointed to the board of several key island organizations, including the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force (2005/06), Aruba Hospitality and Security Foundation (2002-2006) and the Aruba Hotel Scholarship Fund (2006). While maintaining an active role within the local community, he also plays a part in the regional hospitality industry through his position on the board of the Caribbean Hotel Association (since 2001). Rob currently resides in Aruba with his wife and three children.
Tags: meetaruba.com, VA, President
Rob Smith's Job History Join to view all
Director of E-commerce for Air Jamaica at Delta Airlines Holdings Inc
Ceo at meetaruba.com
2008


guy on the left

Rob Smith's Coworkers -
 

President    Heather Linton
Marketing Manager  Jan Zandboer
Front Office Manager    Donna Gallo
Regional Director...    Carol Daugherty

[sandy leiva]

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2964&offId=0

CASO DI HOGAMENTO RIBA BEACH BANDA DI WESTIN, NAN TA BEZIG CU C.P.R.

Texasmom ?  The translator didn't help much.

Hi Klass the article said that on 3/19 in front of the Westin Beach Hotel a female tourist swallowed alot of water while swimming. Ambulance was called the girl was stabalised at the scene and then another ambulance transported her to hospital in fair condition. sounds like a near drowning episode. hope that helps... sl

[texasmom]

Rob Smith's Biography

Rob Smith Rob Smith President & CEO, AHATA Rob combines a wealth of hospitality knowledge and expertise with a personal passion for the island of Aruba. He has held various positions within the hospitality industry, serving at the general manager level for 15 years. Most recently, he served as general manager of the Westin Aruba and vice president of the ownership group of Aruba Hotel Enterprises (AHE), with which he led strategic initiatives in identifying new business opportunities as well as developing strategic partnerships. He was recognized as the Hotelier of the Year in 2005, and has been appointed to the board of several key island organizations, including the Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force (2005/06), Aruba Hospitality and Security Foundation (2002-2006) and the Aruba Hotel Scholarship Fund (2006). While maintaining an active role within the local community, he also plays a part in the regional hospitality industry through his position on the board of the Caribbean Hotel Association (since 2001). Rob currently resides in Aruba with his wife and three children.
Tags: meetaruba.com, VA, President
Rob Smith's Job History Join to view all
Director of E-commerce for Air Jamaica at Delta Airlines Holdings Inc
Ceo at meetaruba.com
2008


guy on the left

Rob Smith's Coworkers -
 

President    Heather Linton
Marketing Manager  Jan Zandboer
Front Office Manager    Donna Gallo
Regional Director...    Carol Daugherty

Hi Carpe!  Love the pic!   

He resigned from AHATA CEO and now he's GUESS WHERE?

YOU GOT IT!  The Radisson...Joran's favorite place to gamble!

http://www.hotelinteractive.com/article.aspx?articleid=15224

Rob Smith Named New General Manager Of Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
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“We are proud to bring Rob Smith, seasoned with such a distinguished background, to the Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa, which is the brand’s flagship resort,” states Fredrik Korallus, executive vice president and chief operating officer for Radisson Hotels & Resorts of the Americas.

Most recently, Smith served as president and chief executive officer of the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association. 

“Radisson Aruba Resort, Casino & Spa is one of the island’s crown jewels with amenities and superior service that makes it a favorite of guests who return year after year,” states General Manager Rob Smith. “I am delighted to assume the leadership position at this premier resort known for its warm and gracious staff.”
Rob has been active in the local community for almost 13 years, and has a strong working knowledge of Spanish and the local language of Papiamento. He resides on the island with his wife and four children. He holds a bachelor’s degree from the University of South Florida specializing in Business Finance and American Studies.

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[Blonde]

I don`t see the ZEOLLA family mentioned anywhere in

the statements of 6/18 or 6/23/2005 from Paulus Van der sloot.

He drops that in the 6/25/2005 statement only. (I think)


I`ve searched for it... but double-check me, please.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=34.0


Did they lie for him????

I always remembered that they were all in the Netherlands with her until a few years ago..
I do remember someone had confirmed and  saved the ticket receipts

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/17354/8/

Papiamentu translation:

tourist dutch is fayece at two beach

sunday, 21 march 2010 - 17:14

in oranan of diadomingo nightfall, owing to enter melding cu will have one person cu problem in lama at two beach. at once owing to despacha unidad of ambulance for so give asistencia for reanima the person here. el'a stay transporta for centro medico san nicolas, y not owing to stay nothing another for doctor constata dead of the person here, is deal of one tourist naci at the netherlands. click read more for more potret...

[klaasend]

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/03/aruban_divers_in_first_look_fo.html

Aruban divers find little in first look for possible Natalee Holloway skeleton
By Toraine Norris -- The Birmingham News
March 20, 2010, 8:15PM

and Roy Williams -- The Birmingham News

The  lead investigator for Aruban police said Saturday night that divers will resume searching Sunday in an area where a couple snorkeling took an underwater picture they believe may be the skeleton of missing Mountain Brook teen Natalee Holloway.

Deputy Police Chief Adolpho Richardson told The Birmingham News that nothing was found in the area searched Saturday.


"The FBI is helping Aruban authorities by conducting more interviews with the Pennsylvania couple who took pictures," Richardson said. Also being interviewed are members of the group on the snorkeling trip, he said.

"We are trying to narrow down the search area," Richardson said. "We have an idea of where it could have been but we are just guessing based on the information we have. The moment we have more accurate information, you can conduct a more thorough search."

The search is the latest of many that authorities have launched since Holloway disappeared in Aruba in 2005 while on a school trip. The 18-year-old was last seen leaving a bar with Joran van der Sloot on the final night of a high school graduation trip.

Richardson said the dive team will remain on the scene as long as it takes.

"The FBI has been in contact with the Holloway family," he said.

Efforts to reach Holloway's parents, Dave Holloway of Mississippi and Beth Twitty of Mountain Brook, were unsuccessful Saturday.

Larry Garrison, who has been a spokesman for Dave Hollway, said Natalie's father has received similar pictures in the past only to find out they are rock formations.

"He is more or less dismissing this," Garrison said Saturday. "I think they've found the same thing other people have found in the past, rock formations."

Aruban spokeswoman Ann Angela told the Associated Press it is too early to say whether the Pennsylvania ouple's underwater photo is more viable than other tips authorities have received.

"It could be a skull, it could be a stone, it could be anything," she said. "That's what we're trying to figure out."

The couple cannot pinpoint the exact location, but an Aruba resident believes he can find the spot, Angela said.

"We are a very small island with lots of people diving or snorkeling, so it's not unusual for one of us to see an underwater picture and recognize the location."

John and Patti Muldowney made the pictures while vacationing in Aruba in early October 2009. John Muldowney, who appeared on CNN's Nancy Grace show Friday night, said his wife took the pictures in about 15 feet of water.

He said the film was not developed until December. Fearing the photos may be remains of Holloway, Muldowney said he turned the pictures over to the FBI.

[Magnolia]

I don`t see the ZEOLLA family mentioned anywhere in

the statements of 6/18 or 6/23/2005 from Paulus Van der sloot.

He drops that in the 6/25/2005 statement only. (I think)


I`ve searched for it... but double-check me, please.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=34.0


Did they lie for him????

I always remembered that they were all in the Netherlands with her until a few years ago..
I do remember someone had confirmed and  saved the ticket receipts

Widget the Midget said that Anita and two other van der Sloots  were on the flight from NL.
if Val and Sebastian had been at home on May 30th, I think even the Aruban police would
have taken a statement from them.  Val wasn't interviewed until November of 2008 and
Sebastian has never been interviewed to my knowledge.

[Buckeye]

If one of Renfro's businesses is still Windsurfing, I say build the Ritz Carlton and any other hotel.  She should be moved to the south of the island, anyhow.

[Buckeye]

I don`t see the ZEOLLA family mentioned anywhere in

the statements of 6/18 or 6/23/2005 from Paulus Van der sloot.

He drops that in the 6/25/2005 statement only. (I think)


I`ve searched for it... but double-check me, please.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=34.0


Did they lie for him????

I always remembered that they were all in the Netherlands with her until a few years ago..
I do remember someone had confirmed and  saved the ticket receipts

Widget the Midget said that Anita and two other van der Sloots  were on the flight from NL.
if Val and Sebastian had been at home on May 30th, I think even the Aruban police would
have taken a statement from them.  Val wasn't interviewed until November of 2008 and
Sebastian has never been interviewed to my knowledge.

No matter where they were, you'd think the ALE would have gotten a statement from Val, since he showed up on the computer at 3 am.   

[texasmom]

I don`t see the ZEOLLA family mentioned anywhere in

the statements of 6/18 or 6/23/2005 from Paulus Van der sloot.

He drops that in the 6/25/2005 statement only. (I think)


I`ve searched for it... but double-check me, please.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=34.0


Did they lie for him????

I always remembered that they were all in the Netherlands with her until a few years ago..
I do remember someone had confirmed and  saved the ticket receipts

Widget the Midget said that Anita and two other van der Sloots  were on the flight from NL.
if Val and Sebastian had been at home on May 30th, I think even the Aruban police would
have taken a statement from them.  Val wasn't interviewed until November of 2008 and
Sebastian has never been interviewed to my knowledge.

No matter where they were, you'd think the ALE would have gotten a statement from Val, since he showed up on the computer at 3 am.   

Exactly!  Speaks volumes that they didn't.  Perhaps because they KNEW he was in Holland?   

[klaasend]

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=2983&offId=0

TURISTA HULANDES APENAS 2 DIA NA ARUBA A HOGA NA DOS PLAYA


Looks like another tourist drowned 

Looks like it may be the same incident TM posted earlier from 24ora.

http://www.24ora.com/content/view/17354/8/

[Tamikosmom]

I cannot comprehend why Paulus van der Sloot would place his younger sons at home rather than Holland ... if they were in Holland with Anita.

There are so many witnesses who could dispute Paulus' contention that Sebastian and Valentijn were in Aruba if they were in Holland.  There were the Zeolas ... Sebastian's friends ... the bus driver who drove both of the younger boys to school each day as well as the teachers and students at the ISA.

Janet

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SEBASTIAN AND VALENTIJN


Paulus van der Sloot - Witness Statement - June 18, 2005

On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian who was playing at a friends house was due to be dropped off at home around that time.
_______

On May 30th in the hours of the morning, I did not notice anything different/out of the ordinary with Joran. According to me he got onto the bus of the I.S.A. with his brothers Sebastian and Valentijn just like he always does. I am not absolutely sure about that because I didn't notice it and because Joran didn't have to be at school every day during that period. He was busy with his final exams and sometimes he stayed home.
______

I dropped off Joran in front of the entrance of the Aruba Raquet Club with my Suzuki so that he could take tennis lessons and go to the gym. He probably had his carrying bag with tennis necessities with him. I saw him enter the building. He had told me that he would afterwards be going to the Wyndham Hotel because a “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” would be held. I immediately went home, had dinner with the other boys and after that I went to bed.
______

At some point during the night I was awoken by the barking of the dogs. My son Valentijn came to me and asked me what was happening. There were a lot of people at the door and there was also a police-patrol.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=237.0


Paulus van der Sloot - Suspect Statement - June 23, 2005

To your question when Anita left for the Netherlands, I can
state the following. I cannot remember exactly but I think it was
the Tuesday or Wednesday before that Monday the 30th of May
that she departed for the Netherlands. Anita was in the Netherlands
for seven or eight days
________

To your question whether Sebastian and Valentijn went to school that Monday, I can state the following. Yes, they got onto the bus and went to school because in the period that Anita was away they took the bus every day.
________

Of course I see the children get onto the bus and that also is true for Joran. But unlike Valentijn and Sebastian who went with the bus everyday Joran didn't go with the bus once or twice during that period.
_______

To your question whether on the occasions that I informed the bus driver that Joran would not be going with the bus Joran stayed home or whether I drove him to school myself, I can state the following. I did bring Joran to a place at the open air cinema. He got onto the bus
there. That was the first morning that Anita went to the Netherlands. I at that time did not inform the bus driver that Joran would not be going with the bus. Instead I was very angry with Valentijn and Sebastian for letting the bus drive off without Joran. Sebastian and Valentijn however where under the impression that Joran didn't need to go to school that day.
______

After depositing the money I went home. I cannot exactly remember what time it was when I got home. I think it was 16.15 hours. According to me both Rita and Joran where at home. Whether Valentijn and Sebastian where also there that Monday I cannot remember anymore because Valentijn and Sebastian quite often went over to a friends house during that time-period.
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I am not 100% sure of that. But if I had gone back to then it would not have been to pick up the bag alone but also to bring Joran home. At approximately 18.00 on Monday May 30th 2005 I would have been home.  I cannot remember anymore if I picked up Sebastian and Valentijn or whether they were dropped off at our home because during the time Anita was away there was not fixed structure to that. I think I did eat dinner with Valentijn and Sebastian.  Sebastian and Valentijn went to bed at their normal bedtime of approximately
21.00 hours. I myself turned in for the night at approximately 23.00 hours.
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To your question what I did on May 31st 2005, I can state the following. Around 02.00 I was awakened by the barking of my dogs and Valentijn who had awakened before I woke up.
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We were dropped off home by the officers. It was starting to get light.  I woke up Valentijn and Sebastian and I also said to Joran that he had to go to school even though he wasn't in the mood to go. I know that I insisted that he should go. A reason for that might be that he had already not gone to school on Monday.

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Paulus van der Sloot - Suspect Statment - June 25, 2005

We spoke last time about that Monday night when Joran was at the "Raquet Club", that I only took the bag with me. I am remembering that it was around 08:00pm when I took the bag to Joran at the “Raquet Club”, this was when Joran was walking in the direction of the Marriott and made the announcement that he was going to participate in the “Free Tournament” at the Wyndham that this came up. In my view I even grumbled (expressed concern) on Joran and then went on to pick up Sebastian at the ZEOLA family. Again I am not sure. This image comes in my head, but I had no reason at that moment to remember any of these things. I had done a lot on automatic pilot. Sure when it came to pickup and bring the kids back. I also don't know the relevance of this fact.

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[Bearlyhere]

I think Refugeesunleashed.net is gone 

I can still able to read that sight.  Maybe I am priviledged.  At one time I was afforded my own thread at that site ... maybe it is still there.  The thread was named TAMIKOSBUM.

 

Janet
2:55 PM PT

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http://refugeesunleashed.net/

What does that say about their Moms if Mom=bum?  I guess they didn't fall far from that tree.  Sad really.

 

[Bearlyhere]

Open bar and snorkeling in the same trip?  How unsafe is that?

First you put the drink in you and then you put you in the drink.