Natalee Case Discussion #831 3/13/10 - 4/22/10

[texasmom]

FYI - nothing new in the Kalpoe vs Dr. Phil case:

Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/06/2010 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (TRIAL DATE OF 5-17-10 TO BE CONTINUED)

05/17/2010 at 09:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial

Klaas,
Lifesong pointed the following out from some of the documents, where it looks like the dates have been changed.  Do you remember....were the dates moved up after these documents from Sept 2009?  TIA

 


Lifesong posted:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7221.msg1104679#msg1104679

I think they did.  Took me a while to find this again but look here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5922.msg953584#msg953584

on the 5th page Klaas photo'd/posted it says "Trial is set for February 7, 2011 at 9:30am..."

I'll try and screen shot it with the area I'm seeing circled in red.

Here it is:

[texasmom]

How long has JD Silvetti been a Corporate Sponsor of TES? Hmmmmmmm.

http://texasequusearch.org/

Good question Sharon/Tx....  I don't recall any mention of them being corporate sponsors of TES before or during the "Persistence" mission.  I think the sponsor relationship with TES came after that, so probably less than two years?

jmo

I agree that they've come on as corporate sponsors in the recent past.   Just checked out the web archive and it looks like they started to rebuild their website sometime after March, 2008....this computer is acting up, so I wasn't able to pull up an old page, & we are going out in a bit.   

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.texasequusearch.org

Thanks 2NJ!   

Hope you have a great evening.   

[klaasend]

FYI - nothing new in the Kalpoe vs Dr. Phil case:

Case Number: BC363201
DEEPAK KALPOE VS PHILLIP C MCGRAW

Filing Date: 12/13/2006
Case Type: Defamation (Slander/Libel) (General Jurisdiction)
Status: Pending

Future Hearings

05/06/2010 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Final Status Conference (TRIAL DATE OF 5-17-10 TO BE CONTINUED)

05/17/2010 at 09:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Jury Trial

Klaas,
Lifesong pointed the following out from some of the documents, where it looks like the dates have been changed.  Do you remember....were the dates moved up after these documents from Sept 2009?  TIA

 


Lifesong posted:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7221.msg1104679#msg1104679

I think they did.  Took me a while to find this again but look here:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5922.msg953584#msg953584

on the 5th page Klaas photo'd/posted it says "Trial is set for February 7, 2011 at 9:30am..."

I'll try and screen shot it with the area I'm seeing circled in red.

Here it is:

And that makes sense but the Superior Court website has not been updated so I'm not sure if that is set in stone.

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16879:chauffeur-cu-a-causa-accidente-tabata-burachi&catid=6:policial&Itemid=8



Papiamentu translation:

chauffeur cu owing to cause accidente was sober

friday, 16 april 2010 21:30  

the chauffeur (driver) of surname geerman, trahando at one compania in aeropuerto was in the pick up cu owing to bay in into the quadracer awemainta. for colmo ela test positive for drunkenness y owing to stay encarcela. click read more for more info. he will had two day end on one paranda, so some witness at the sitio of accidente owing to give of conoce at police. the was cu a muher in car at instant of the accidente. the senjora owing to lose cabes at dado instant y autoridadnan have to owing to atende cune y calme. after cu he owing to stay deteni, one rato after his casa self owing to arrive at the sitio for place his self at height of the situation. at keep of police owing to haci test of breath cu he y owing to confirma cu the was below ; influencia of alcohol. ley is tell cu if do you cause one accidente fateful under influencia of alcohol, are you stay encarcela at once.   have to menciona cu polisnan at the sitio owing to achieve one holor strong of drugs saliendo for of the car. owing to let the cacho anti-droga of police come at the sitio y ela reacciona also. but hour owing to busca more profunfo in the car not owing to achieve drugs, if the cacho owing to become brabo hour ela smell the lighter, dunando indicacion cu probably had usage of drugs in the car. esey polisnan will have to follow investiga now.


That is unless your special like Cheremy Croes was and they choose not to test you at all....

FYI....Notice the logo on the suspects shirt...ASAP is the company that Jason Margarita is associated with now.

http://www.asaparuba.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=37

Staff
Jason I. Margarita
Chief Executive Officer

Evita J. Rodulfo
Chief Financial Officer

Marilyn Maduro
Myspace & Facebook Engineer

[klaasend]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

[texasmom]

I think this may have been the same crash that the "Geerman" was arrested for causing and being drunk.
 

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_71285.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Tourist deceased after crash quad racer

April 16, 2010, 14:19 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - A cruise tourists this morning around nine hours was killed in a road accident on the LG Smith Boulevard.

The victim was sitting on a quad racer by unknown causes at the height of teak furniture House collided with a pickup. A second person also on the quad Sat, was seriously injured and was transported by ambulance to the hospital. The driver of the truck was arrested. In the accident were also two other cars involved. Traffic specialists were on site to the circumstances of the accident to investigate. The road was for the duration of the investigation closed to all traffic. Justice Minister Arthur Dower (AVP) came personally to the disaster area in order to inform it of the event. The victim is probably the twelfth fatal accident this year. The Public Prosecutor had not yet been disclosed whether the eleventh fatality, the 88-year-old Rafael Nadall, actually may be reckoned as such. Last year were twenty deaths.

[texasmom]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Sounds good to me!   

[Tamikosmom]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Klaas

IF it is deemed that the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording of the Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak Kalpoe was not deceptively manipulation ... I believe that you are right in regards to the outcome.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

How long has JD Silvetti been a Corporate Sponsor of TES? Hmmmmmmm.

http://texasequusearch.org/

Thanks Sharon/Tx.

Janet

  You are welcome Janet.  I am not getting a good feeling.

TIM MILLER AND THE PERSISTENCE

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
 
Kyle Kingman: I know Tim believed me and was convinced 100% which is why he went and told Dave that we found Natalee on Dec 29th. John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis to arrange the next dive -Dec 30th's which was the visual-only dive.
 
Kyle Kingman: Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan. He couldn't tell by his own admission.
 
Kyle Kingman: John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word when they said on Dec 30th that it was nothing case relevant.

Kyle Kingman:  It's unanimous that Tim M. should never have told Dave and Beth anything about the trap until it's contents were forensically examined.  After the diver visual inspection of the trap he was obligated to report what the Aruban divers reported because although limited, it's the only information he had and the family rightfully wanted answers. It was a royal mess.
 
Kyle Kingman:  On the night of the 30th (I believe this was Tim's last night on the Persistence) I approached Tim and proposed some ideas to him. I suggested that we shouldn't take the Aruban Polis divers at their word and proceed with planning a recovery of the trap. Also, I proposed the trap site may not be pristine or the Polis may have already knew about it. This statement was backed up by several comments we heard, behavior we observed, and other things. Tim told me he thought I was right but didn't know what to do about it.
 
Kyle Kingman:  After the Dec 30th dive John [Silvetti] didn't want Tim Miller on board the Persistence because he said Tim wasn't necessary any more and was a liability. I don't know what that exactly means, but Tim wasn't hurting anything except releasing the statements to the press and Holloways that we found Natalee.

Kyle Kingman: He (Tim Miller) stepped off on or about the 1st of Jan to follow up on the false lead in Costa Rica IIRC.

Kyle Kingman:  I hadn't slept in 48 hours. I crashed for a few hours rest and by the time I got up Dateline and Tim Miller had left the boat. That is when John [Silvetti] assumed full control over the remainder of the project and had us searching in the deepest portions of our search area which coincided with Richardson's remarks.

Kyle Kingman: We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap.
 
Kyle Kingman: For Jan 7th, Eduardo wasn't on the boat, neither were any media, Tim Miller, or Tim Trahan

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

[texasmom]

http://www.24ora.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16879:chauffeur-cu-a-causa-accidente-tabata-burachi&catid=6:policial&Itemid=8



Papiamentu translation:

chauffeur cu owing to cause accidente was sober

friday, 16 april 2010 21:30  

the chauffeur (driver) of surname geerman, trahando at one compania in aeropuerto was in the pick up cu owing to bay in into the quadracer awemainta. for colmo ela test positive for drunkenness y owing to stay encarcela. click read more for more info. he will had two day end on one paranda, so some witness at the sitio of accidente owing to give of conoce at police. the was cu a muher in car at instant of the accidente. the senjora owing to lose cabes at dado instant y autoridadnan have to owing to atende cune y calme. after cu he owing to stay deteni, one rato after his casa self owing to arrive at the sitio for place his self at height of the situation. at keep of police owing to haci test of breath cu he y owing to confirma cu the was below ; influencia of alcohol. ley is tell cu if do you cause one accidente fateful under influencia of alcohol, are you stay encarcela at once.   have to menciona cu polisnan at the sitio owing to achieve one holor strong of drugs saliendo for of the car. owing to let the cacho anti-droga of police come at the sitio y ela reacciona also. but hour owing to busca more profunfo in the car not owing to achieve drugs, if the cacho owing to become brabo hour ela smell the lighter, dunando indicacion cu probably had usage of drugs in the car. esey polisnan will have to follow investiga now.


That is unless your special like Cheremy Croes was and they choose not to test you at all....

FYI....Notice the logo on the suspects shirt...ASAP is the company that Jason Margarita is associated with now.

http://www.asaparuba.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30&Itemid=37

Staff
Jason I. Margarita
Chief Executive Officer

Evita J. Rodulfo
Chief Financial Officer

Marilyn Maduro
Myspace & Facebook Engineer

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3214&offId=0&offDate=2010-4





DRUNK and DRIVING at 9am, one tourist dies and another seriously injured because of it?   

Two other cars were involved from what I can tell, not sure if any injured in the cars.  It looks like one of the cars was checked out by drug dogs since there was a strong scent of drugs in the car.

[texasmom]

41 year old man killed (I think from Canada but because of the script problems not sure if that is his country or part of his name), and his wife injured..she is in the hospital but in stable condition from this report.  It looks like they were passengers on the Caribbean Princess cruise ship.

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3217&offId=0&offDate=2010-4

Papiamentu translation:

5 hora pasa | Fecha: 16/04/2010 | Horario: 18:08

version policial of the accidente fateful on l.g. smith blvd

awemainta 08:40 hour, central of police is wordo notifica cu owing to sosode one acci=dente important on l.g. smith blvd come across, at height of teak house.=0a=a0=0ana yeg=ada is constata cu did take lugar one accidente among one all terrain vehicle (=asina calling quart racer) mfa- 1225 y three another car. the chauffeur of the quart =racer, one tourist cu owing to end of arrive aruba cu barco crusero, was gravemen=te injury y=a0 for more or less 09:27 hour dr. coes y dr. ponson is constata morto frederick norman canada, 6 april 1969=0apasahero on bar=co crucero caribbean princess=0a=a0=0asu wife also was injury y owing to wor=do take away for hospitaal where cu past owing to stay interna but is stabiel.=0a=a0=0ae c=hauffeur of the pickup a-29606 cu will owing to strike in the quart racer, he g., owing to =keda deteni for core car bow influencia of alcohol y is close still pendient=e the investigacion.=0a=0a=0a

[wreck]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Klaas

IF it is deemed that the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording of the Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak Kalpoe was not deceptively manipulation ... I believe that you are right in regards to the outcome.

Janet

The recordings validity would never even be weighed until an actual trial. IMO -- it will NEVER get that far.

[klaasend]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Klaas

IF it is deemed that the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording of the Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak Kalpoe was not deceptively manipulation ... I believe that you are right in regards to the outcome.

Janet

The recordings validity would never even be weighed until an actual trial. IMO -- it will NEVER get that far.

I agree Wreck.  The judge has rightly ordered that the Kalpoes give their depositions by June 1, 2010 in California.  If the Kalpoes can't be bothered to adhere to the laws in our country then they should not have filed suit here. 

Therefore I believe if the Kalpoes are a NO SHOW, the trial will be a NO GO 

[texasmom]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Klaas

IF it is deemed that the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording of the Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak Kalpoe was not deceptively manipulation ... I believe that you are right in regards to the outcome.

Janet

The recordings validity would never even be weighed until an actual trial. IMO -- it will NEVER get that far.

I agree Wreck.  The judge has rightly ordered that the Kalpoes give their depositions by June 1, 2010 in California.  If the Kalpoes can't be bothered to adhere to the laws in our country then they should not have filed suit here. 

Therefore I believe if the Kalpoes are a NO SHOW, the trial will be a NO GO 

Klaas, have you been watching too much Nancy Grace...the rhyming lawyer...Susan Moss?      

I agree with you and wreck.   

[texasmom]

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_71283.php

Google translation:

ARUBA

Havana for sale for more than 5 million

April 16, 2010, 14:17 (GMT -04:00)

ORANGE CITY - The buildings of Havana Beach, Beach Papas and the vacant former restaurant Ambianz may be sold to a large U.S. franchise. This owner has Amigoe Harry Koeman told last night. The asking price for the property is "more than five million.

by our reporter
Alex Lacle

Negotiations are ongoing and the company has an option that expires on July 1, 2010. Before then be clear whether the sale continues. Koeman is the name of the franchise is not known, because he says he has signed them. Several sources, however, speak about the company Nikki Beach as a possible candidate. Remarkably, at the Chamber of Commerce, the registered name of the name Havana Beach Niki mentions. This American company has beach clubs and hotels around the world. Headquartered in Miami and has more branches in France, Spain, Mexico, Morocco and Thailand. Own words brings Nikki Beach dining, fashion, music and entertainment together in a mix of luxury, exclusivity and beauty.

According Koeman wants the franchise to stay in the Caribbean operate. Therefore, the company is currently conducting a feasibility study on Aruba. The option on the buildings of Havana is that the interested company until July 1, 2010 the sole right to purchase them.

Papas Beach
Papas Beach, the beach located at Havana Beach, you may also taken. Sources say that around Koeman new owner wants to exploit the beach. Papas Beach director John Oster, who also also owns the adjacent diving Fly 'n Dive, said it would sell if a good price is offered. Should no agreement be reached on a sale, it can sometimes 'boring', let Oster hints. "If they really want to leave us, they can make our life very difficult," he says. Co-owner Ramon Groot Antink, however, assured this newspaper that the arrival of another landlord, nothing has changed. "We have a long term lease with the option to extend for five years."

[klaasend]

Here's what I think is going to happen.  I think the June 1, 2010 final date for the Kalpoes to come to LA to give their depositions is going to come and go and the Kalpoes will be a no show.  They will come up with more excuses.

The judge will then throw the entire case OUT and award the Dr. Phil people legal fees.

Klaas

IF it is deemed that the disputed segment of the Dr. Phil recording of the Jamie Skeeters' interview with Deepak Kalpoe was not deceptively manipulation ... I believe that you are right in regards to the outcome.

Janet

The recordings validity would never even be weighed until an actual trial. IMO -- it will NEVER get that far.

I agree Wreck.  The judge has rightly ordered that the Kalpoes give their depositions by June 1, 2010 in California.  If the Kalpoes can't be bothered to adhere to the laws in our country then they should not have filed suit here. 

Therefore I believe if the Kalpoes are a NO SHOW, the trial will be a NO GO 

Klaas, have you been watching too much Nancy Grace...the rhyming lawyer...Susan Moss?      

I agree with you and wreck.   

 

[texasmom]

 

[texasmom]

41 year old man killed (I think from Canada but because of the script problems not sure if that is his country or part of his name), and his wife injured..she is in the hospital but in stable condition from this report.  It looks like they were passengers on the Caribbean Princess cruise ship.

http://www.awe24.com/?main&id=3217&offId=0&offDate=2010-4

Papiamentu translation:

5 hora pasa | Fecha: 16/04/2010 | Horario: 18:08

version policial of the accidente fateful on l.g. smith blvd

awemainta 08:40 hour, central of police is wordo notifica cu owing to sosode one acci=dente important on l.g. smith blvd come across, at height of teak house.=0a=a0=0ana yeg=ada is constata cu did take lugar one accidente among one all terrain vehicle (=asina calling quart racer) mfa- 1225 y three another car. the chauffeur of the quart =racer, one tourist cu owing to end of arrive aruba cu barco crusero, was gravemen=te injury y=a0 for more or less 09:27 hour dr. coes y dr. ponson is constata morto frederick norman canada, 6 april 1969=0apasahero on bar=co crucero caribbean princess=0a=a0=0asu wife also was injury y owing to wor=do take away for hospitaal where cu past owing to stay interna but is stabiel.=0a=a0=0ae c=hauffeur of the pickup a-29606 cu will owing to strike in the quart racer, he g., owing to =keda deteni for core car bow influencia of alcohol y is close still pendient=e the investigacion.=0a=0a=0a

http://www.einformante.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1831:informe-di-polis-relaciona-cu-e-accident-cu-morto&catid=1:policial&Itemid=2

WARNING:  GRAPHIC PHOTOS FROM THE ACCIDENT SCENE

informe of police relaciona cu the accident cu dead

friday, 16 april 2010 22:43

awemainta 08:40 hour, central of police is wordo notifica cu owing to sosode one accidente important on l.g. smith blvd, at height of teak house. at arrival is constata cu did take lugar one accidente among one all terrain vehicle (asina calling quart racer) mfa- 1225 y three another car. the chauffeur of the quart racer, one tourist cu owing to end of arrive aruba cu barco crusero, was gravemente injury y for more or less 09:27 hour dr. coes y dr. ponson is constata dead of

frederick norman
canada, 6 april 1969
passenger on barco crucero caribbean princess

his wife also was injury y owing to wordo take away for hospitaal where cu past owing to stay interna but is stabiel. the chauffeur of the pickup a-29606 cu will owing to strike in the quart racer, he g., owing to stay deteni for core car bow influencia of alcohol y is close still pendiente the investigacion. till so far the informacion on the accidente fateful of today

[Keepthefaith]

How long has JD Silvetti been a Corporate Sponsor of TES? Hmmmmmmm.

http://texasequusearch.org/

Thanks Sharon/Tx.

Janet

  You are welcome Janet.  I am not getting a good feeling.

TIM MILLER AND THE PERSISTENCE

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words
 
Kyle Kingman: I know Tim believed me and was convinced 100% which is why he went and told Dave that we found Natalee on Dec 29th. John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis to arrange the next dive -Dec 30th's which was the visual-only dive.
 
Kyle Kingman: Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan. He couldn't tell by his own admission.
 
Kyle Kingman: John definitely believed the Arubans at their every word when they said on Dec 30th that it was nothing case relevant.

Kyle Kingman:  It's unanimous that Tim M. should never have told Dave and Beth anything about the trap until it's contents were forensically examined.  After the diver visual inspection of the trap he was obligated to report what the Aruban divers reported because although limited, it's the only information he had and the family rightfully wanted answers. It was a royal mess.
 
Kyle Kingman:  On the night of the 30th (I believe this was Tim's last night on the Persistence) I approached Tim and proposed some ideas to him. I suggested that we shouldn't take the Aruban Polis divers at their word and proceed with planning a recovery of the trap. Also, I proposed the trap site may not be pristine or the Polis may have already knew about it. This statement was backed up by several comments we heard, behavior we observed, and other things. Tim told me he thought I was right but didn't know what to do about it.
 
Kyle Kingman:  After the Dec 30th dive John [Silvetti] didn't want Tim Miller on board the Persistence because he said Tim wasn't necessary any more and was a liability. I don't know what that exactly means, but Tim wasn't hurting anything except releasing the statements to the press and Holloways that we found Natalee.

Kyle Kingman: He (Tim Miller) stepped off on or about the 1st of Jan to follow up on the false lead in Costa Rica IIRC.

Kyle Kingman:  I hadn't slept in 48 hours. I crashed for a few hours rest and by the time I got up Dateline and Tim Miller had left the boat. That is when John [Silvetti] assumed full control over the remainder of the project and had us searching in the deepest portions of our search area which coincided with Richardson's remarks.

Kyle Kingman: We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap.
 
Kyle Kingman: For Jan 7th, Eduardo wasn't on the boat, neither were any media, Tim Miller, or Tim Trahan

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

Time will tell.

[Keepthefaith]