Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)

[klaasend]

Catherine J. Osburn is Gardner's mom.  Who are the rest?  This is a reverse lookup at his Lake Elsinore address.

[klaasend]

33210 Gillette St, Lake Elsinore, CA



We know that the google maps aren't current but likely within the last couple years.  This car is directly across the street from John Gardner's Lake Elsinore address:

[no rose colored glasses]

http://www.10news.com/news/22739243/detail.html        Same day, same park that Chelsea was at and abducted and murdered, there was a man stalking another child    Appears to be Gardner, by the description of the car.

[Tracygirl]

Didn't the neighbor say that there was JAG and another couple living there? I agree who are these people, somehow they are mixed in with the Gardners.

[no rose colored glasses]

 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/cops-link-chelsea-kings-suspected-killer-linked-abductions/story?id=10012155  Girl in Lake Elsinore told family when she saw a pic of Gardner, that is the man that tried to abduct me, it was in Oct of last year 

[Adam In California]

Hey all -

Update on a couple of things -

1) The journalist that I was exchanging emails with over at the UT put out a story that the DNA from the swab from the December 27th attack came back as the victims.  She was the only one to get an actual quote from a named LE official on the issue.  However, she also noted that they "rushed the sample through" after learning that it was Gardner's DNA on Chelsea's clothing.  An excuse about backlogs was given, but the issue of why San Diego County only spent half of their prop 69 funds in 2008 goes unanswered.  I'll update when I have an answer.

2) An in-law that is a detective in a Southern California police dept told me yesterday that LE has now already tied 5 other victims of attempted abductions to Gardner and that they expect to get more.  It seems he was very very active.  Hearsay rule invoked: I can't divulge the source and he is not working the case (not his jurisdiction) but is monitoring it and has guys checking into unsolved attempted abductions in his jurisdiction.  Don't be surprised if JAG ends up with more charges added so that they can load him up for a trip to the gurney.

[Missiontoconvict]

I have gone to the recorders office and property tax office online - bummer because California does not show the owner's name on the property tax statement online - I am still digging I can't find any recorded docs under Catherine Osborn but the process is rather time consuming because it only allows you to search 3 years at a time.   

[Lovinlife]

Hi Adam in California, thanks for the update and Welcome to Scared Monkeys!

I'm sorry your son has had to be exposed to this tragedy.

[Adam In California]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/cops-link-chelsea-kings-suspected-killer-linked-abductions/story?id=10012155  Girl in Lake Elsinore told family when she saw a pic of Gardner, that is the man that tried to abduct me, it was in Oct of last year 

Here I think i have to keep something on the "down low" and you have an article saying the same thing!  Wow!

And that is Riverside County - not even where my in-law works.  I suspect LE is looking at every place JAG went since walking out of prison for victims.

[Tracygirl]

Hi Adam in California, thank you for the update. 5 other attempts so far in addition to what we already have?
1. girl walking in Lake Elsenor
2. jogger at lake hodges
3. 13 year old in San Bernardo (thanks NRCG)

So there are 5 attempts in addition to these?

[Tracygirl]

Somewhere in Ambers thread there is a story of an attempted abduction by a man in a white truck with ladders on the side. Anyone recall that? I can't find it. I think they said the man was hispanic but I want to confirm that.

[Missiontoconvict]

I found this however nothing from California is free - you have to pay to view the documents.

[klaasend]

I found this however nothing from California is free - you have to pay to view the documents.

Can you give me the link to that particular database?  TIA

[Tracygirl]

This missing person is out of Temecula CA, near San Diego. This girl went missing before school. I dont believe she has been found, I am hoping she has. Anyone hear of it? I emailed Mr Shultz to ask if about her and if she has been found.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/temecula/5e40da73-43e1-5881-b24a-0e2b53ae59fe.html

TEMECULA: Chaparral High student missing
StoryDiscussionBy CRAIG SHULTZ - cshultz@californian.com | Posted: January 21, 2010 8:20 pm | (4) Comments | Print

Font Size:Default font sizeLarger font sizeTEMECULA ---- Temecula police officers were looking for a missing Chaparral High School student Thursday afternoon.

According to the Temecula Valley Unified School District, an 11th-grade girl was dropped off in front of the school at 6 a.m. for an early morning class.

She spoke with her mother via cell phone a short time later, however, she did not attend her class, and her personal belongings were later found on campus grounds.

The student, whose name was not released, has not been seen or heard from since she spoke with her mother, district officials say.

There is no evidence at this time of an abduction, according to a letter the school district sent to parents.

The Temecula Police Department is investigating the incident as a missing child case. Anyone with information is asked to call Sgt. Ken Southern at 951-696-3000.

Posted in Temecula on Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:20 pm Updated: 1:28 pm. | Tags: Cal, News, Temecula, Blotter


 

[Missiontoconvict]

I found this however nothing from California is free - you have to pay to view the documents.

Can you give me the link to that particular database?  TIA

Go here Klaas then scroll down to the bottom to the Grantor/Grantee and search from there.

http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/services/document_copies.aspx

[no rose colored glasses]

Authorities Not Ready to Confirm Body Found is Chelsea King

District Attorney Spokesman Paul Levikow said Thursday that any evidence, including the identification of the body, will not be revealed until the preliminary hearing for the man accused of killing her.

The hearing is set for March 18.

[Tracygirl]

The Temecula girl was found safe!!! There was an update posted on Ambers thread. Sorry forgot to bring it forward. Glad she is ok...

[labubske]

Thanks for the welcome!  I am wondering too who the O'Reilly's are...I thought that maybe they own the house and when the names are searched...the engines just relate them.  But then I just saw one of the posts say that both addresses include both names.  Hmmm...and I know that I had found one link to another Gardner with sex charges in the 1960s...It seems that his name was John Gardner...but for some reason I recall thinking that this was a relation to JAG...I cannot find it for the life of me...I want to say that it was North Carolina...I have looked through so many pages that I cannot recall...but there was a relation!  I am very curious now about the Oreilly name. 

Registrant:
Baba Pictures LLC
   9325 Pebble brook Lane
   Boise, ID 83714
   US

   Domain Name: BABAPICTURES.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
      Baba Pictures LLC               
      9325 Pebble brook Lane
      Boise, ID 83714
      US
      858-675-9312

   Record expires on 08-Dec-2014.
   Record created on 06-Apr-2006.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NS59.WORLDNIC.COM            205.178.190.30
   NS60.WORLDNIC.COM            205.178.144.30
What is weird...when I search the IP server hosts...it has listings for sites such as hotels...8 hits...moving men...3 hits...attorneys...idaho outfitters...1000deaths...I will look at it more when I return home...have to head to a baseball game.

[klaasend]

This missing person is out of Temecula CA, near San Diego. This girl went missing before school. I dont believe she has been found, I am hoping she has. Anyone hear of it? I emailed Mr Shultz to ask if about her and if she has been found.

http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/temecula/5e40da73-43e1-5881-b24a-0e2b53ae59fe.html

TEMECULA: Chaparral High student missing
StoryDiscussionBy CRAIG SHULTZ - cshultz@californian.com | Posted: January 21, 2010 8:20 pm | (4) Comments | Print

Font Size:Default font sizeLarger font sizeTEMECULA ---- Temecula police officers were looking for a missing Chaparral High School student Thursday afternoon.

According to the Temecula Valley Unified School District, an 11th-grade girl was dropped off in front of the school at 6 a.m. for an early morning class.

She spoke with her mother via cell phone a short time later, however, she did not attend her class, and her personal belongings were later found on campus grounds.

The student, whose name was not released, has not been seen or heard from since she spoke with her mother, district officials say.

There is no evidence at this time of an abduction, according to a letter the school district sent to parents.

The Temecula Police Department is investigating the incident as a missing child case. Anyone with information is asked to call Sgt. Ken Southern at 951-696-3000.

Posted in Temecula on Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:20 pm Updated: 1:28 pm. | Tags: Cal, News, Temecula, Blotter


 

We have a thread and she was found:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6982.msg1059288

http://www.swrnn.com/southwest-riverside/2010-01-22/news/breaking-news-missing-chaparral-hs-student-located-returned-to-family#ixzz0dMWzzDT6

[klaasend]

I found this however nothing from California is free - you have to pay to view the documents.

Can you give me the link to that particular database?  TIA

Go here Klaas then scroll down to the bottom to the Grantor/Grantee and search from there.

http://arcc.co.san-diego.ca.us/services/document_copies.aspx

Here are the interesting ones.  I might just purchase a couple of the less expensive ones: