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Author Topic: Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)  (Read 511399 times)
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« Reply #360 on: March 01, 2010, 12:50:18 PM »

I am extremely impressed with the outpouring of love displayed on the Facebook page set up to find Chelsea. It has 47,583 members/fans. Not sure if you can view it from this link without a facebook account, but it is a "public" facebook so it may be viewable for those interested.

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=chelsea+king&init=quick#!/pages/HELP-FIND-CHELSEA-KING-MISSING-SAN-DIEGO-TEEN/331307387380?ref=search&sid=797714375.958826203..1
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My angels on earth, the Shriners-every thing they do is for the children and they never ask for anything in return. What a concept.....
http://www.shrinershq.org/Hospitals/Main/
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« Reply #361 on: March 01, 2010, 12:54:46 PM »

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Ok, I finally found it in print in a news source so I feel like it can be posted here definitively:

"Investigators were searching a home on Matinal Road near West Bernardo Drive late Sunday night, according to KGTV Channel 10. Public records link an address on that street to Gardner."

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The home is near Westwood Elementary, on a canyon area that connects through the canyon right over to Poblado RIGHT at the access point where all of the activity has been.

Meaning he can cut behind the home, on the trail from the school to Poblado between Moon Song and Smokesignal, just cross the street, and continue on the trail directly to the waterfall area I was showing in my photos earlier. Also, that access point on Poblado is where all the LEO and searchers were staging earlier. Plus, that's where the first attack happened.

In addition, he'd just have to go around the corner, make two quick turns, and could be right at the access point if he went by car.

I won't give the house address, but if you google map Westwood Elementary, 92127 and look at the canyon area arcoss the street you'll see what I mean.
(from a local at WS, so it appears he could have gone to that area without anyone really seeing him)

I was looking at the arial view on Google maps and the street between Moon song and smoke signal drive, I can't see what the name is on my computer screen it is blurred a bit, it is a something like Monticook? Anyhow there is a little parking lot that is right next to a trail. He could have easily been waiting in a car. Where is the waterfall this poster is talking about?

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« Reply #362 on: March 01, 2010, 01:01:21 PM »

I don't know exactly where this waterfall is located at. One thing I'm confused with is he has hid Chelsea's body well, wonder why the sport's bra and underwear were found so easily? I'm of course glad they were, but it seems odd that he was careless with some items of clothing. Also wondered if there is searching going on along Ortega Highway, I realize that would be extremely difficult, just wondered.
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« Reply #363 on: March 01, 2010, 01:07:00 PM »

GARDNER,JOHN ALBERT

1050 ROCK SPRINGS RD # 113
Escondido,CA 92026

33210 GILLETTE ST
LAKE ELSINORE, 92530

Anyone get a address on POS's Mom's home? I havent tried yet but would like to map them all on google maps.

I haven't found anything on him in facebook due to his name being sort of a common name. still looking though.

Note: The first address is from a post from EDWARD in Amber's thread back in 7/09
The 2nd address is from the Megans law site.
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« Reply #364 on: March 01, 2010, 01:08:42 PM »

 The falls are on the Piedras Pintadas trail, if that helps any.
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« Reply #365 on: March 01, 2010, 01:12:11 PM »


In the area near the waterfall down below Legends neighborhood (visible from the end of Smokesignal) there were several dozen search teams that seemed to be focusing on the trails there, the rocks and waterfall area carefully, and then the finger of the lake that is right there. This may help also, this was said by a local on WS that lives near there.
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« Reply #366 on: March 01, 2010, 01:17:27 PM »

GARDNER,JOHN ALBERT

1050 ROCK SPRINGS RD # 113
Escondido,CA 92026

33210 GILLETTE ST
LAKE ELSINORE, 92530

Anyone get a address on POS's Mom's home? I havent tried yet but would like to map them all on google maps.

I haven't found anything on him in facebook due to his name being sort of a common name. still looking though.

Note: The first address is from a post from EDWARD in Amber's thread back in 7/09
The 2nd address is from the Megans law site.

Not much help, but I found this.   Investigators were searching a home on Matinal Road near West Bernardo Drive late Sunday night.
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« Reply #367 on: March 01, 2010, 01:38:50 PM »

I am on google maps street view. I have gone up and down smoke signal, moonsong, poblado and little streets leading of them, I have to say, there doesn't seem to be easy access to the trails. I think the simplest thing to say is he used the same parking lot that Chelsea did. I would suppose if he walked he could jump a fence or a gardrail but it doesn't look like it would be the easist walk. I would think if a man was going to attack someone, he would not try to draw a lot of attention to himself. I bet he jogged in, jogged out and left, just like everyone else does. Plus, there doesn't seem to be anywhere anyone can park their car that wouldn't draw attention and I doubt he walked. So my guess for whatever it is worth is he parked in the same lot that Chelsea did.
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« Reply #368 on: March 01, 2010, 01:47:42 PM »

The falls are on the Piedras Pintadas trail, if that helps any.

http://sandiegobackroads.today.com/2008/08/19/piedras-pintadas-interpretative-trail/

Found this about, thought I would share
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« Reply #369 on: March 01, 2010, 01:51:33 PM »

This site has alot of pics of the area. He could have put her anywhere. My goodness.

http://www.miriameaglemon.com/San%20Diego%20Bird%20Pages/Sites/Lake%20Hodges.htm
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« Reply #370 on: March 01, 2010, 02:07:19 PM »

This site has alot of pics of the area. He could have put her anywhere. My goodness.

http://www.miriameaglemon.com/San%20Diego%20Bird%20Pages/Sites/Lake%20Hodges.htm
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« Reply #371 on: March 01, 2010, 02:20:35 PM »

ok so I am wrong, wrong, wrong. There is street access to the area off duenda, near where publado bends around from moonsong there it is right there and near to his parents home. It is in the area that zig zags after the footbridge that comes south from the parking lot. I bet he sees people jogging in and out of that access all of the time.
I have no idea what and if this means anything but I had to find it. Sorry for the multiple posts.
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« Reply #372 on: March 01, 2010, 02:29:36 PM »

Fox is covering it,showing rescue workers in the water.
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« Reply #373 on: March 01, 2010, 02:30:45 PM »

http://www.nybreakingnews.com/news/Search-continues-in-San-Diego-County-for-missing-Chelsea-King-1267470744/
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Search continues in San Diego County for missing Chelsea King

1 March, 2010

San Diego County :  Investigators in San Diego County continued their search Monday for a missing 17-year-old girl  Chelsea King after John Albert Gardner III was arrested in connection with her disappearance.

John Albert Gardner III, 30, a registered sex offender was arrested Sunday afternoon in Escondido after San Diego County investigators found evidence linking the disappearance of Chelsea King from the Lake Hodges area.Cheksea King disappeared Thursday after failing to return from an afternoon run near Lake Hodges.  Helicopters scoured the area and volunteers waded chest-deep in the murky water looking for signs of the Chelsea King.

Friends set up a Chelsea King Facebook page and Chelsea King website to help the search effort. The case is being handled by homicide investigators of San Diego County. Friends of Chelsea King has posted pictures of Chelsea King on facebook profile.

 
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« Reply #374 on: March 01, 2010, 02:37:07 PM »

they are showing footage of the area from a helicopter or plain.

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=4
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« Reply #375 on: March 01, 2010, 02:42:40 PM »

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« Reply #376 on: March 01, 2010, 02:42:56 PM »

I am holding out hope that this sicko did not have anything to do with Amber's disappearance. Having said that, wasn't there an astrologer who said that Amber was in this same lake early on in her case?
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« Reply #377 on: March 01, 2010, 02:48:51 PM »

I did her chart about one week ago but wasn't sure where to post it. From what I saw, the witnesses who reported two men dumping a plastic sack of unknown contents in Lake Wohlford is the correct location of the victim. The chart showed she was initially taken in a residential tract and then displaced to the East in water. When I learned there was a Lake Wohlford due east of the abduction site, it all came together.
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This is the quote. This particular forensic astrologer thought it was Lake Wohlford but Lake Wohlford is in Valley Center. Maybe she got the lakes confused? This is HORRIBLE! I am hoping she is wrong.
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« Reply #378 on: March 01, 2010, 02:51:05 PM »

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« Reply #379 on: March 01, 2010, 02:55:10 PM »

Divers Search Lake in Teen's Disappearance

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local-beat/Suspect-Arrested-in-Case-of-Missing-Teen-Chelsea-King--.html
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