Lively Case Discussion #573 1/13 - 1/14/2007

[Anna]

Nevermind.

Found it.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170678,00.html

TWITTY: Because I think I was asking questions that she didn’t know that I knew about, things that she wouldn’t tell me and I was confronting her with, you know, things like the blood in the car. If you’ll remember, way early on in the investigation, even the prime minister came and said, Yes, they found blood in the car. The FBI said they found blood in the car. She says they didn’t. She says they — I know for a fact that they cut parts out of the seat, cut parts out of the ceiling of Deepak’s car, and they sent them wherever to get tested. And she said no. Initially, the FBI said there was blood all over the car, but then they came back and said now it’s cleaning fluid. And I went ballistic in the meeting. And you know, there are a lot of other things that I went ballistic on because she’s so vague on everything that she tells you. You know, here’s a perfect example, when she hasn’t communicated with Beth in a month. So another...

[klaasend]

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Here's a Nancy Grace interview transcript where Jug is saying KJ told them it was cleaning fluid:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html

Still looking  

[Anna]

Thanks, Klaas!

Almost two sources.  Two programs but both are Jug saying that.  Of course, I believe Beth is also present if that counts as another person.

I will send both with the PDF on GHB being basically cleaning fluid.

But this is interesting for more than just that.  Back to the people who say they saw blood in the car, etc. then it morphed into cleaning fluid.  Vomit with coke in it?  And lots of cleaning fluid?

Well, if you run across someone other than Jug also saying that KJ said it was cleaning fluid in the car, that would help.  An independent source sotaspeak.

 

[Tylergal]

thank you, cbb.  I knew but had forgotten. It was a week of illness, death and forgetfulness to detail.

[Carnut]

Thanks, Klaas!

Almost two sources.  Two programs but both are Jug saying that.  Of course, I believe Beth is also present if that counts as another person.

I will send both with the PDF on GHB being basically cleaning fluid.

But this is interesting for more than just that.  Back to the people who say they saw blood in the car, etc. then it morphed into cleaning fluid.  Vomit with coke in it?  And lots of cleaning fluid?

Well, if you run across someone other than Jug also saying that KJ said it was cleaning fluid in the car, that would help.  An independent source sotaspeak.

 

So who brought up the chocolate?

[Anna]

Klaas,
Will check back later. . . .

Thanks, again.

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[klaasend]

Thanks, Klaas!

Almost two sources.  Two programs but both are Jug saying that.  Of course, I believe Beth is also present if that counts as another person.

I will send both with the PDF on GHB being basically cleaning fluid.

But this is interesting for more than just that.  Back to the people who say they saw blood in the car, etc. then it morphed into cleaning fluid.  Vomit with coke in it?  And lots of cleaning fluid?

Well, if you run across someone other than Jug also saying that KJ said it was cleaning fluid in the car, that would help.  An independent source sotaspeak.

 

I don't think KJ actually came on TV and said it.  I believe it was relayed to Jug and Beth durring that August meeting, the one Jug got so mad in.  I think there's only those 2 interviews, Nancy Grace and Greta that mention it.

[Tylergal]

coke, chocolate, cacao bean.

[crazybabyborg]

thank you, cbb.  I knew but had forgotten. It was a week of illness, death and forgetfulness to detail.

{{{HUGS}}} Tyler.

[Carnut]

coke, chocolate, cacao bean.

Not knocking Jug, but do wonder if KJ was his source or someone like scubajap. Still pretty sure I relate the cleaning fluid/chocolate to scubajap.

Not gonna go back and try to find it on RWV, but do wonder if her statement predated Jugs statement.

[Tibrogargan]

Good morning monkeys.  My computer has decided to cooperate today so no reboots or restores needed.  Great news!!!
Have been reading back and all I can say with the illegals discussion is I heartily agree.  I would only have to substitute Australia for US and Asian for Mexican.  At least we do not have a common border with another country but they come here in dilapidated boats  or smuggled through normal routes with forged passports.  Customs pounce on a lot but it is safe to say that there are many more that are lucky and do not get caught.  The boat people manage to land in some strange places but as so much of our northern and western shorelines are uninhabited it is difficult for Coast Guard Patrol or Navy to watch everywhere at once.  Then if we say anything they call us Racists.  Well every Asian country hates every other Asian country so they have no room to talk.
Big fuss here at present over a Mufti (?) who is head of radical Islamic group here in Aust.  After a lot of attacks and gang rapes on white girls by their illegal youths he mouthed off about it was the girls own faults as they walk around with most of their bodies unclothed displaying themselves like pieces of meat in a butchers shop.  You can imagine the uproar over that.
Well now he is out of country for oversea visit and there are calls for him not to be allowed back in.  So he then says because he cannot speak English (bet he can understand it OK) he was misinterpreted and translated incorrectly by the media.  BS....   If he wants to be properly understood learn English and speak to us in our language.  Now he says Moslems are more entitled to be in Australia than us because they paid to come here and we were all transported here.  News for him!!!   Also he says his nickname for John Howard (our prime minister : political head of country) is "Me too" as he follows everything George Bush says.  Haven't heard the latest reaction to that but I hope they tell him to stay in Mecca or wherever he is.  Even the Moslems here are denouncing him.  Total ratbag.   That rant felt good.   Now back to lurking and drawing straws for the computer day.
Anna  love your new rose avatar.

[Carnut]

Tibro,

Have you checked out Tyler's latest post in the Political Forum?

[Anna]

I don't have time right now but think that old website Hasiboko had most of the KJ interviews and there may be one where she says that about the cleaning fluid.  Also the chocolate, that it was chocolate and cleaning fluid.

Carnut,
Jug is saying that is a direct quote from Karin Janssen.  I seriously doubt his source is scubajap!  Or that he is lying about her saying that, either.

And the chocolate is not the issue.  It is the fact GHB and cleaning fluid are almost identical in chemical composition.

This is taken from Jug and Beth's meeting with Karin Janssen wherein she became very upset with Jug, etc.

It has nothing to do with scubajap.  

Later when I have time, if I find direct interview will post.  Even if that site is gone, it should be cached on internet somewhere.

BBLater. . . . . .


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[Tibrogargan]

Tibro,

Have you checked out Tyler's latest post in the Political Forum?

No I was just answering your and CBB's rants here but heading over there now .....

[Carnut]

I don't have time right now but think that old website Hasiboko had most of the KJ interviews and there may be one where she says that about the cleaning fluid.  Also the chocolate, that it was chocolate and cleaning fluid.

Carnut,
Jug is saying that is a direct quote from Karin Janssen.  I seriously doubt his source is scubajap!  Or that he is lying about her saying that, either.

And the chocolate is not the issue.  It is the fact GHB and cleaning fluid are almost identical in chemical composition.

This is taken from Jug and Beth's meeting with Karin Janssen wherein she became very upset with Jug, etc.

It has nothing to do with scubajap.  

Later when I have time, if I find direct interview will post.  Even if that site is gone, it should be cached on internet somewhere.

BBLater. . . . . .
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Well, don't know for sure what it's all about, but kinda thought you trying to pin down if KJ or the LE ever made any comments about the cleaning fluid/choclate finding.

Just putting in my 2cents worth that I never saw anything official about the cleaning fluid/chocolate.

Would think that DeVries would be in the best position to check it out either way with the Dutch lab.

[klaasend]

I don't have time right now but think that old website Hasiboko had most of the KJ interviews and there may be one where she says that about the cleaning fluid.  Also the chocolate, that it was chocolate and cleaning fluid.

Carnut,
Jug is saying that is a direct quote from Karin Janssen.  I seriously doubt his source is scubajap!  Or that he is lying about her saying that, either.

And the chocolate is not the issue.  It is the fact GHB and cleaning fluid are almost identical in chemical composition.

This is taken from Jug and Beth's meeting with Karin Janssen wherein she became very upset with Jug, etc.

It has nothing to do with scubajap.  

Later when I have time, if I find direct interview will post.  Even if that site is gone, it should be cached on internet somewhere.

BBLater. . . . . .


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Looks like Hasiboko.com is no longer available.  Checked internet archives too and nothing.

[bleachedblack]

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Here's a Nancy Grace interview transcript where Jug is saying KJ told them it was cleaning fluid:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html

Still looking  

It seems to say in the interview ,that the FBI told KJ who told Jug that there was blood in the car.

[sandy leiva]

I don't have time right now but think that old website Hasiboko had most of the KJ interviews and there may be one where she says that about the cleaning fluid.  Also the chocolate, that it was chocolate and cleaning fluid.

Carnut,
Jug is saying that is a direct quote from Karin Janssen.  I seriously doubt his source is scubajap!  Or that he is lying about her saying that, either.

And the chocolate is not the issue.  It is the fact GHB and cleaning fluid are almost identical in chemical composition.

This is taken from Jug and Beth's meeting with Karin Janssen wherein she became very upset with Jug, etc.

It has nothing to do with scubajap.  

Later when I have time, if I find direct interview will post.  Even if that site is gone, it should be cached on internet somewhere.

BBLater. . . . . .


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Looks like Hasiboko.com is no longer available.  Checked internet

archives too and nothing.

 
 
Team di polis anti droga a score formalmente….

BANDA GRANDI DI DROGA DESMANTELA DURANTE MARDUGA

Droga, placa, y nuebe detencion den accion relampago…

ORANJESTAD(AAN): Awe DIARIO ta cuminsa na felicita henter e team di polis cu a desmantela henter un banda di droga den oranan di marduga.
Un caso cu henter e team di Seccion Crimen Organiza a investiga hunto cu e departamento di inteligencia pa algun siman caba unda no ta descarta cu e paki di droga haya algun siman pasa y tambe e curpa sin bida haya na Andicuri por tin algo di haber cu e caso di awe marduga.  
DIARIO su reporteronan a sigui tambe cu henter e investigacion y subi caya tambe marduga pa asina forma parti di e accion cu a tuma lugar.
   
Un total di dos bulto grandi di cocaina a keda confisca pa agentenan camufla y fuertemente arma cu for di trempan tabata scondi mey mey di e barancanan na costa panort di Aruba.
 
E bultonan a ser haya pariba di Natural Bridge y na momento di detencion di e Venezolano a haya solamente un di e bultonan, pero despues mainta a listra te merdia y a bolbe haya un bulto grandi mas.
Ademas di e detencion canto di lama tabata tin razia na varios cas.
E team anti droga reforza pa mas colega policial tabata backup e team di aresto cu a drenta na diferente cas y asina detene esnan den cas cu ainda tabata durmiendo.
Na Boegoeroei a pone man riba tres homber y un muher como sospechoso, na San Barbola autoridadnan a detene un conocido di nan cu ta doño di un lugar di laba auto.
Na un cas den Hubadastraat na Companashi tambe tin detencionnan cu a cay unda aki tambe tabata tin conocidonan di polis deteni como sospechoso.
Practicamente na tur e casnan cu autoridadnan a bishita a haya droga scondi y tambe sumanan di placa considerable.
E investigacion lo bay siguii caminda lo interoga tur e sospechosonan pa mira kico nan rol ta den henter e investigacion cu seccion crimen organiza ta hacienda pa varios dia caba.

DIARIO ta gradici tambe e miembronan di cuerpo policial y e team anti droga pa e bon coperacion cu nos a haya den e accion aki pa asina awe DIARIO den forma exclusivo por tin imagenan di e caso grandi aki.

very large drug bust leads to 2 suitcases full of cocaine , a dead body also found early yesterday mornong they believe has something to do with the drugs and multiple homes staked out overnight resulting in apprehension of two suspected dealers one a venezuelan the other unnamed but dragged out of his home in the middle of the night.  More forthcoming on the investigation.  No mention who the dead person was.  Sandy Leiva could u post in the murder and crime thread for me.  thanks.

[crazybabyborg]

Tibro,

Have you checked out Tyler's latest post in the Political Forum?

I just got back from there, and agree, take a look! I also posted a link that's well worth a "click" on the topic.

[Cat]

i thought they called you Dinki Dau,Carnut.Choi Hoi.I have missed alot in the last week.jvds said he is a liar and a rapist,and I believe him.I am lmao and rotflmao,I think is the expression.Maybe we want to think about the problem,before we offer the wrong solutions,on illegals.Change visa laws,and penalties to bus's for hiring illegals,and you would be part of the solution.St.Peters church has a good working program here,that the local citizens don't like,but it works.Off the the cat food box,and CBB,I have seen and heard of this problem often.The internet is a very sharp 2 edged sword.It brings Scared Monkeys and it brings porn.CAT