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Author Topic: Chelsea King, 17, Msg. 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND) #2  (Read 85279 times)
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2010, 06:42:51 PM »

Gardner's only deal was that he could
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but that info could not be used against him, but info gained from scene #NBCSD
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DA took deal in order to gain murder convictions in both cases #NBCSD
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2010, 06:43:53 PM »

   How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 
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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2010, 06:44:35 PM »

  How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 

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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2010, 06:46:31 PM »

If I read that last set of tweets correctly, Gardner's only deal was that he would take  LE to where he buried Amber and they could not use that against him, however any evidence they found at the scene could be used against him.  He must have left a lot of evidence.
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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 06:47:32 PM »

  How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 


Yes.  The question isn't "ARE there more victims?", but like you asked, "How many more victims?", for I truly believe there are more.  I don't think Amber and Chelsea were his only ones.  Sad.     I hope with time more can be determined.  I'm glad Gardner's off the streets now.
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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2010, 06:49:26 PM »

  How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 

IMO and I'm not trying to implicate anyone other than John Gardner, they need to look at past hasher runs in the area. 
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2010, 06:50:10 PM »

nothing can replace the lives of chelsea king an amber dubois, says DA #NBCSD
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Mo Dubois speaks, thanks DA and asks for time to grieve #NBCSD
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Brent King says decision to accept deal was tortuous #NBCSD
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2010, 06:51:36 PM »

  How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 

IMO and I'm not trying to implicate anyone other than John Gardner, they need to look at past hasher runs in the area. 
yup they do as he seems to go where they have run, but that could be coincidently, though nothing is coincidental IMO[/quote]
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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2010, 06:52:44 PM »

Says he agree to deal but "there's nothing satisfying about this moment" #NBCSD
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King says they agreed to the deal for the sake of their son and so that Amber's family could have closure #NBCSD
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The Kings hugged after he finished his statement, with Kelly's eyes closed, for at least five seconds #NBCSD
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2010, 06:55:49 PM »

Afterward, Dumanis asked that people respect the families' privacy to give them time to grieve#NBCSD
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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2010, 06:55:58 PM »

Says he agree to deal but "there's nothing satisfying about this moment" #NBCSD
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King says they agreed to the deal for the sake of their son and so that Amber's family could have closure #NBCSD
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The Kings hugged after he finished his statement, with Kelly's eyes closed, for at least five seconds #NBCSD
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2010, 07:24:25 PM »

Thank you for the updates and notes on this. How sad these poor girls had to be killed as they were. I am relieved JAG confessed but I can't help but wonder if he is just a coward who doesn't want to die.


Does anyone know if there is a video of the hearing?
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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2010, 07:29:34 PM »

Thank you for the updates and notes on this. How sad these poor girls had to be killed as they were. I am relieved JAG confessed but I can't help but wonder if he is just a coward who doesn't want to die.


Does anyone know if there is a video of the hearing?

I have not found any yet but I am sure that one of the stations will be posting it soon.
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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2010, 07:31:54 PM »

Gardener Leads Authorities To Teen's Body

SAN DIEGO (AP) - San Diego County District Attorney Bonnie Dumanis says convicted sex offender John Gardner led authorities to the body of Amber Dubois.

Dumanis says Gardner agreed to lead authorities to the body on the condition that they could not use that information against him in court.

Dumanis says it was a difficult decision, but prosecutors had no other evidence or DNA to link him to the death of Dubois

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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2010, 07:32:59 PM »

Sex offender admits two slayings, avoids trial

SAN DIEGO – John Gardner, the convicted sex offender from Lake Elsinore, avoided a death sentence by pleading guilty Friday to the slayings of two San Diego County girls.

Gardner waived his right to appeal the convictions and will be sentenced to two consecutive, no-parole prison terms.

His unexpected plea ended speculation over whether he would be charged in the deaths of both Chelsea King and Amber Dubois.

Gardner also admitted assaulting another girl in the Rancho Bernardo Community Park in December.

Amber disappeared in February of last year while walking to Escondido High School.

Chelsea disappeared February 25th after going for a run in the Rancho Bernardo park. The 17-year-old Poway girl’s body was found five days later.

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2010, 07:50:47 PM »

Klaas can you bring over the letters from the previous thread? I couldn't read them and when I clicked on them the got tiny..............thanks
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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2010, 07:53:27 PM »

I have to admit I am physically sick to my stomach right now...............This sick SOB...I understand the parents agreeing to a plea deal........but I wish ther had been another way..............this animal needs to be DEAD and hopefully someone in prison will feel the same and ensure he has a long, slow and extremely painful death.

thanks to NR  and Klaas for all the updates
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PUT ON YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES AND GET OVER IT!  It's not about you or me.....It's about the Missing and the Murdered
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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2010, 07:56:46 PM »

Klaas can you bring over the letters from the previous thread? I couldn't read them and when I clicked on them the got tiny..............thanks

Not sure what you mean but I'll see if I can find it and bring it over,

OK, I looked and still don't know, LOLOL  What letters are you referring to?
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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2010, 08:09:38 PM »

  How many more victims???? That is the question of the day 

IMO and I'm not trying to implicate anyone other than John Gardner, they need to look at past hasher runs in the area. 

I agree..................
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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2010, 08:10:06 PM »

Klaas can you bring over the letters from the previous thread? I couldn't read them and when I clicked on them the got tiny..............thanks

Not sure what you mean but I'll see if I can find it and bring it over,

OK, I looked and still don't know, LOLOL  What letters are you referring to?

Starting on about pg. 95 of previous thread, Northern Rose posted a letter and lots of docs.  I thought making a thread for them would be a good idea, when I get a chance.

Letter:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7233.msg1114064#msg1114064
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