Lively Case Discussion #574 1/15 - 1/17/2007

[Sleuth]

Yum to the chocolate truffles.  
Let's hope something happens tomorrow that brings this one step closer to resolution for Natalee's family.  JQK is holding back, which is good.

[crazybabyborg]

Yum to the chocolate truffles.  
Let's hope something happens tomorrow that brings this one step closer to resolution for Natalee's family.  JQK is holding back, which is good.

Sleuth, since I didn't see the show, could you help me out ? Was there anything said about the filing or the timeframe when we might expect something on it? TIA

[crazybabyborg]

Yum to the chocolate truffles.  
Let's hope something happens tomorrow that brings this one step closer to resolution for Natalee's family.  JQK is holding back, which is good.

Sleuth, since I didn't see the show, could you help me out ? Was there anything said about the filing or the timeframe when we might expect something on it? TIA

Anybody?

[klaasend]

CBB - Jacqueline posted a transcript a page or 2 back.

[klaasend]

1-16-07
On the Record:


JQK:

in ny

I paid a visit to aruba greta....got a call from jansen...her term is over she is going back to holland.

She had 3 year term...she could have extended it ....she was told that she would be returning to amsterdamn....they did not extend her turn.
she wanted to stay and see it to some conclusion.

I am satisfied they are still working on the case.   they have a team of 10detectives, imet with dennis jacobs...

we do not have results yet....but i am glad to see they are still working on it.  they are working greta....i have been critical...the anwers are down there.....anything that can help....i don't want to rock the boat of communication that i have going.

They have looked in other directions and still consider the three the prime suspects.

[crazybabyborg]

Thanks, Klaas!  

[klaasend]

CBB - the only thing JQK said was K2 should be served soon in Aruba.

[IBE]

CBB no ref to LA.. and Greta didn't ask either... all ref. to Arube, IMO

[crazybabyborg]

IBE and Klaas, thanks so much! I was really curious about that! I can't believe Greta didn't even ask! Well, on second thought, I can believe it!

[SunFreak2]

Not at all.  But the issue is blood to cleaning fluid and cleaning fluid being almost identical to the date rape drug GHB.

I don't know where everybody has gotten the idea that GHB is almost identical to cleaning fluid.  Maybe someone (not necessarily Anna) read the FP post incorrectly.  The FBI was saying that a combination of GHB and cleaning solvent could force people to submit sexually.

Quote:
#158
In his America Online chats with DEA agent Scott Albrecht, Schweickert advises him to use a combination of GHB, which is a central nervous system depressant, and a cleaning solvent called Maximum Impact to force unwilling victims to submit sexually

What cleaning solvent was found in Deepaks pimp mobile?

Comment by Miss-Underestimated | January 12, 2007, 11:59 am
End Quote.

GHB is found naturally in small amounts in our bodies and is the precursor to a neuro transmitter called GABA.

"Typically GHB has been synthesized from GBL (gamma-butyrolactone) by adding sodium hydroxide (lye) in ethanol or water. As of late, GBL has become controlled and more circuitous routes have to be taken such as those starting with THF (tetrahydrofuran)."  Wikipedia

This is saying that lye as like that found in soap is part of the makeup of GHB.  I wouldn't go as far as to claim that GHB is almost identical to cleaning solvents though.

IMHO

[Cat]

i am a simple caat,but if any kind monkey could help with a St.Patrick's avatar ,I would be grateful.Cat

[Dihannah1]

Hi guys! I missed Greta, but am grateful for the transcription, Jac!  

Thanks for the updated tink!  I love it!

You're very welcome, Diahannah!    Actually, I've run into some very nice Tinks looking for avatar material, but wasn't sure you'd be checking the avatar thread. Now that you're here, if you'd like to check it occasionally, I'll post them for you!  

I'll be checkin.  I've saved the one's you've made in Photobucket along with my other collection.  And I have to say, yours are the best!

[bleachedblack]

Not at all.  But the issue is blood to cleaning fluid and cleaning fluid being almost identical to the date rape drug GHB.

I don't know where everybody has gotten the idea that GHB is almost identical to cleaning fluid.  Maybe someone (not necessarily Anna) read the FP post incorrectly.  The FBI was saying that a combination of GHB and cleaning solvent could force people to submit sexually.

Quote:
#158
In his America Online chats with DEA agent Scott Albrecht, Schweickert advises him to use a combination of GHB, which is a central nervous system depressant, and a cleaning solvent called Maximum Impact to force unwilling victims to submit sexually

What cleaning solvent was found in Deepaks pimp mobile?

Comment by Miss-Underestimated | January 12, 2007, 11:59 am
End Quote.

GHB is found naturally in small amounts in our bodies and is the precursor to a neuro transmitter called GABA.

"Typically GHB has been synthesized from GBL (gamma-butyrolactone) by adding sodium hydroxide (lye) in ethanol or water. As of late, GBL has become controlled and more circuitous routes have to be taken such as those starting with THF (tetrahydrofuran)."  Wikipedia

This is saying that lye as like that found in soap is part of the makeup of GHB.  I wouldn't go as far as to claim that GHB is almost identical to cleaning solvents though.

IMHO

Maybe I am not interpreting this "recipe" correctly. It does seem to read here (second "ingredient") that one component is a cleaning solution.

http://www.neonjoint.com/drug_recipes/chapter4.html

[crazybabyborg]

i am a simple caat,but if any kind monkey could help with a St.Patrick's avatar ,I would be grateful.Cat

How about a 'Pot of Gold" for a tip cup?


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c100/crazybabyborgs/smjazzcatStPat.gif

[crazybabyborg]

Hi guys! I missed Greta, but am grateful for the transcription, Jac!  

Thanks for the updated tink!  I love it!

You're very welcome, Diahannah!    Actually, I've run into some very nice Tinks looking for avatar material, but wasn't sure you'd be checking the avatar thread. Now that you're here, if you'd like to check it occasionally, I'll post them for you!  

I'll be checkin.  I've saved the one's you've made in Photobucket along with my other collection.  And I have to say, yours are the best!

I'll have to figure out where I saw them, but am sure to run into them along the way again, so just keep an eye out and if I find you here after I've put them in the thread, I'll let you know!    Thanks, Dihannah for the kind words! You do have an original, anyway!   I don't think you'll find that one anywhere else, for whatever that's worth!

[crazybabyborg]

I think Cat's gone, but maybe he'll find it tomorrow. I'm going to take a quick look for "tink", and get ready for bed. Have a great night, Monkeys! Sleep well, and may your dreams be happy!

[klaasend]

Nite CBB

[bleachedblack]

My question is this.......if you were given GHB(cleaning fluid), and had been drinking diet coke/151 in liberal amounts and then got in the a car with three guys and vomited on the floor......only to pass out one guys lap. What would the labratory analysis show when the emesis was anaylized?

The FBI was specifically given the DNA evidence. Were they ever reportedly given blood evidence....NO. Reports came back NO BLOOD. OK...........

[Tibrogargan]

Klaasend

I have just sent you an SOS by email    TIA

[klaasend]

Klaasend

I have just sent you an SOS by email    TIA

Tibro - check your email now, I sent you 2.  Check the 2nd one.