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« Reply #1180 on: May 30, 2010, 08:06:22 AM »

5 freakin' years  Sometimes it seems like 10 years and in other ways it seems like not so long ago...

http://mysite.verizon.net/lls.fm1/natalee.mp3

Lyrics by Ericka Harvey:

"NATALEE"

I know your out there, somewhere
I can feel your presence
Pulling me, closely
Now even more than ever
I promise, to find you
I will never stop until I do

Cause everytime my heart beats
I want to cry
And everytime I take a breath
I long for you by my side
Needing just to hold you if even for awhile
Someway, somehow….Natalee where are you now?

Lord can you hear me, calling
Seeking out your face
To see you, shine through
Every cold dark place
I pray for and wait for
You to take me in your sweet embrace

Chorus ...
Someway, somehow...Oh Lord stay here with me now!

Bridge:
Oh my precious child be still and know
I’m holding on to hope and I won’t let go
I need to have you here with me
This is my prayer…this is my plea

Chorus
Oh I need you with me now…………..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What Natalee's family has endured is beyond cruel and malicious. My thoughts are with them today, and always.

I often wonder about her friends and how their lives have progressed since May 30, 2005. What have they done with their lives, and where are they now...
Natalee should be right along beside them     
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« Reply #1181 on: May 30, 2010, 09:04:06 AM »

Good morning Monkeys, and hoping all have safe travel on this three-day weekend. Nobody needs reminding that we are commemorating lives lost in military service, and a special salute to those families.

Unfortunately, I'm sure all of us here forever will associate this particular weekend with Natalee Holloway's disappearance five years ago. Beth and Dave and the rest of the family are in my thoughts.

Below is similar to the flowers the Atlanta monkeys gave to Beth during her Atlanta stop on her book tour, a dozen yellow roses --



I wish I had something profound or at least helpful to offer, but I got nothing. It's just so sad ...


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« Reply #1182 on: May 30, 2010, 09:05:46 AM »

I hope everyone is having a lovely holiday weekend.
I was just remembering (maybe in Dave's book) where he talks about looking forward to a quiet lazy Memorial weekend and then getting the terriblel news. I never thought we would still be here 5 years later. It breaks my heart to think about the first time Beth and Dave flew to Aruba and how they just KNEW they were going to pick up Natalee and take her home that day. But then the hours just kept going by turning into days, weeks, months. We honered her memory on year one, year two, three, four and now five. One major player has met his maker. 5 years ago it all seemed so simple; so black and white. She got into a car with three boys. They must know what happened to her. They lied and changed their stories. They obviously knew more. It should have been so easy. 5 years and the monkeys are still here for Natalee. Just a few months ago a coworker brought up the case... People still talk about it. News media still covers it. This will never go away until there is justice for Natalee. I know I'll still be here 10 years from now if that's what it takes. And I know ya'll will be too!
Pray for strength for Natalee's family to get them through this weekend. Love you all!

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« Reply #1183 on: May 30, 2010, 09:11:11 AM »

MAY 30, 2005

Corruption in Paradise - Dave Holloway

Page 6:
  On Monday, May 30, Natalee's trip came to an end, and she was due to fly home to Alabama.  But late in the afternoon, I received a call from Matt telling me that Natalee had missed her flight and that Beth was getting on a plane to Aruba.

Page 7:  Beth had flown out of Birmingham on a friend's private jet as soon as she learned that Natalee had missed her flight.  I contacted a commerical airline and booked the next flight out for 5:30 a.m. the following morning.

Later that night, Matt called again to tell me that Natalee's flight had been rebooked, and she would be coming home the next day.  Someone from Delta Airlines had confirmed that a female had called and changed the flight.

I cancelled my flight, but I was still concerned because no one had heard from Natalee.

The next morning, I started making more calls.  I could not reach Beth, and I was unable to get a member of the Aruban police force to talk to me on the phone about Natalee.

By noon I learned that Natalee was not getting on the plane.  I found out that it had been a chaperone from Natalee's group who had changed her flight in the hopes that she would reappear.  It was then that I knew something tragic must have happened.  I feared the worst, but prayed for a miracle.  I hung up the phone and broke down .....
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« Reply #1184 on: May 30, 2010, 09:15:55 AM »

MAY 30, 2005

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Page 23:
  Rested and refreshed, we leave Memphis late Monday morning with Linda driving and Marilyn up front with her.  I take the backseat.  We sail along, chatting like we alway do, talking about our plans for another road trip one day soon.  Marilyn and I are happily speculating about what our daughters' reactions will be when they open their presents to find a set of extraordinary Wizard of Oz figures.  Natalee will gasp with excitement when she sees these.  Before we know it, we've crossed over into Mississippi.  Somewhere amid our conversation, between the chuckles and the small talk, my cell phone rings. I don't recognize the number, but answer it anyway, which I usually don't do.

It's a young girl.  "Mrs. Twitty?  My mom ... umm ... my mom, she umm ... wants to talk to you."  It's the daughter of Judi, the travel agent.  She developed appendicitis right before the trip, so she and Jodi didn't get to go to Aruba.  They are in Birmingham.  It seems like an eternity before Jodi takes the phone.

"Tell me what's going on," I say in a voice much firmer than the one I usually hear coming from my mouth.

She simply says, "Natalee didn't show up this morning to get on the plane."

And instantly I know.  It's more than a mother's intuition.  It's certainty.  Something terrible has happened.  I have just answered the proverbial dreaded phone call that no mother or father every wants to receive.  The one we fear from the moment our children are born.  The one that changes a parent's life forever.
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« Reply #1185 on: May 30, 2010, 09:17:49 AM »

Loving Natalee
A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith

By Beth Holloway

ISBN: 9780061452277; ISBN10: 0061452270; Imprint: HarperOne ; On Sale: 10/2/2007

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Aruba: The Tragic Untold Story of Natalee Holloway and Corruption in Paradise
by Dave Holloway

Publisher: Thomas Nelson Publishers-Business (Mar 15 2006)
ISBN-10: 1595550631
ISBN-13: 978-1595550637
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« Reply #1186 on: May 30, 2010, 09:19:58 AM »

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_73165.php

‘Construction location Ritz is archeological site’
28 Mei, 2010, 11:51 (GMT -04:00)

   
ORANJESTAD — Extra parliamentary party RED accused the government yesterday of ‘brushing aside’ reports that designate the construction location of the Ritz-Carlton as an ‘archeological site’.

He draws the attention to a report from 2005, in which the Archeological Museum indicates the future location of the Ritz-Carlton and other parts of the high-rise area are regarded as archeological sites
According to Lampe, the morning newspaper Diario had reported this at the time. According to that article, there are two ways to protect possible archeological findings. “One of those ways is not to build on that location”, says Lampe. “Another method is to carry out a so-called emergency excavation prior to construction.” He warns that valuable information and archeological findings could be lost forever. Lampe further states that the museum prefers the first solution. “Everyone is responsible for halting the construction of the Ritz-Carlton.”

No priority
However, in a reaction, head of the Archeological Museum, Arminda Ruiz announces that their recommendations on how to deal with archeological sites, as Lampe quotes from the article of Diaro, do not specifically apply to the current location for the future Ritz-Carlton. “It is not the museum’s priority to protect this site. There are approx. 190 archeological sites on the island”, says Raymundo Dijkhoff, archeologist with the museum. “One cannot protect every site.” He states that from researching that site, it appeared one would not come across many archeological findings. “The possible findings are not important enough to halt the project.”



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« Reply #1187 on: May 30, 2010, 09:39:07 AM »

Beth is on the today show!
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« Reply #1188 on: May 30, 2010, 10:41:28 AM »

Somehow, this is more of a pleasure to post today than any other. 

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« Reply #1189 on: May 30, 2010, 11:08:47 AM »

Coming out of the rafters to say that after five years I am still standing with the girl.  Natalee we won't forget.  Justice for Natalee.  Love to her family. 

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« Reply #1190 on: May 30, 2010, 11:17:46 AM »

Beth is on the today show!

I missed it.  Checked the website but didn't find it.  Maybe I'll have luck later.  Thanks, Klaas.
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« Reply #1191 on: May 30, 2010, 11:21:49 AM »

Beth is on the today show!

 an angelic monkey

I missed it too!  What did she say?  TIA
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1192 on: May 30, 2010, 11:30:40 AM »



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Would you still remember me?


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« Reply #1193 on: May 30, 2010, 11:45:21 AM »

Beth is on the today show!

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I missed it too!  What did she say?  TIA
I only caught the end of it.  She was talking about the new foundation:

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)

http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC
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« Reply #1194 on: May 30, 2010, 11:49:29 AM »

Posted at RU. What a rotten thing to do.




I believe Wehwalt is a Wikipedia contributor.  Wonder if he was one of those recently caught adding porn to Wiki?
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« Reply #1195 on: May 30, 2010, 11:56:59 AM »

Beth is on the today show!

 an angelic monkey

I missed it too!  What did she say?  TIA
I only caught the end of it.  She was talking about the new foundation:

Natalee Holloway Resource Center (NHRC)

http://www.crimemuseum.org/NHRC

Thanks Klaas!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1196 on: May 30, 2010, 12:13:14 PM »

Posted at RU. What a rotten thing to do.




I believe Wehwalt is a Wikipedia contributor.  Wonder if he was one of those recently caught adding porn to Wiki?


 
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« Reply #1197 on: May 30, 2010, 12:27:21 PM »

5 freakin' years  Sometimes it seems like 10 years and in other ways it seems like not so long ago...

http://mysite.verizon.net/lls.fm1/natalee.mp3

Lyrics by Ericka Harvey:

"NATALEE"

I know your out there, somewhere
I can feel your presence
Pulling me, closely
Now even more than ever
I promise, to find you
I will never stop until I do

Cause everytime my heart beats
I want to cry
And everytime I take a breath
I long for you by my side
Needing just to hold you if even for awhile
Someway, somehow….Natalee where are you now?

Lord can you hear me, calling
Seeking out your face
To see you, shine through
Every cold dark place
I pray for and wait for
You to take me in your sweet embrace

Chorus ...
Someway, somehow...Oh Lord stay here with me now!

Bridge:
Oh my precious child be still and know
I’m holding on to hope and I won’t let go
I need to have you here with me
This is my prayer…this is my plea

Chorus
Oh I need you with me now…………..
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What Natalee's family has endured is beyond cruel and malicious. My thoughts are with them today, and always.

I often wonder about her friends and how their lives have progressed since May 30, 2005. What have they done with their lives, and where are they now...
Natalee should be right along beside them     

This is from late last year, some of Natalee's classmates got together to celebrate a birthday...some are married now.  
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1198 on: May 30, 2010, 12:38:04 PM »

Posted at RU. What a rotten thing to do.




I believe Wehwalt is a Wikipedia contributor.  Wonder if he was one of those recently caught adding porn to Wiki?


Well if any of those lowlife's chose to actually do that, it would only prove how despicable they really are.  And hopefully might cause the authorities to take a good look at them! 

Rotten to the core!   

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1199 on: May 30, 2010, 12:49:26 PM »


I believe that Anonimo aka CapsLockWizard backers should very carefully analyze the  relationship.  It is obvious by his own words that Caps is a participant in the Aruban  misinformation campaign that was established early on to despicably shift the focus of the investigation from Paulus and Joran.  Maybe ... just maybe Caps backers would then concede that were deceived by a troll.

Anonimo and CapsLockWizard were exposed as one in March 2009.  I cannot comprehend how prodigal Monkeys can continue to support Caps while claiming to empathize with the mother of Natalee Holloway.

Janet

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Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating
Posted December 22, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

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22.Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:17 pm


Ladies and Gentlemen;

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But first ask your self this question ? why is Beth and Jug no longer together. I, too, have asked that question. I think Jug butted out when Beth went running all over the country promoting this International Safe Travels thing. She lost a lot of her support here.

<snipped>

IS IT THAT THIS IS ALL A FABRICATION FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM AFTER 5 OR 10 YEARS?  Where the players are all connected and waiting for time to tick away to 2010.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/


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