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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #1240 on: May 31, 2010, 06:48:23 PM »

http://www.asaparuba.com/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=viewcategory&catid=325&Itemid=40

Lauren Lane, Kenny Fowler & More at RAIN Night Club (May 22nd, 2010)

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1241 on: May 31, 2010, 08:00:55 PM »

Kermit ... I am attempting to comprehend your research.  I would appreciate assistance.

1.  Are addresses Siribana 6 and Shiribana 6 the same location?
2.  Is there a relationship/connection between Gerardo Geerman and Jenny Emanual Geerman, the witness?
3.  When does the Caps/Witness connection take place.  In Caps letter to Dave Holloway on January 30, 2008 the witness was not an issue in regards to the pond distraction.  He claims Shango was the source.

Ribbit

Janet

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CAPSLOCKWIZARD REVEALED

Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #736 on: May 17, 2010, 04:14:27 PM »


From: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
To: daveholloway@xxxxxx
Subject: RE: Nathalee possible buried place
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:18:15 -0500

<snipped>

Hi Dave,
 
To get Natalee Body you have to come to Aruba and arrange for some large Pumps that can drain a small pond. It has an odd shape.
 
I have decipher the Shango Riddle and the outcome of the Riddle points out the cover-up and also where the body was deposit in Aruba.

<snipped>
 
About Me:
Name: Rudolf H. Vrolijk
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Email: Vrolijkr@hotmail.com
Email: capslockwizard@hotmail.com
Phone: 297-746-7000

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.720


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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 -
« Reply #700 on: May 17, 2010, 01:40:55 AM »


Geerman Gerardo       
Siribana 6
585-3063
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=geerman&page=7

Webb Lorenzo D       
Shiribana 6
588-99xx
http://www.arubayp.com/whitesearch.html?phone=&name=Webb&page=2

CAPS
Address: Shiribana 6, Aruba
Phone: 297-746-7xxx

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.msg1134683#msg1134683


THE WITNESS

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #829 2/14/10 -
« Reply #539 on: February 16, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »


Lie detector test   - Jenny Geerman
http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7018.msg1076042#msg1076042


REPORT OF POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION

EXAMINEE:  Jenny Emanual German

Experpt:


Mr. Geerman appears alert, on-time and properly orientated for his examination.  He resides at Palm Beach #166-B, Noord, Aruba.

http://stephww.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/lie-detector.pdf


Hi Kermit

 

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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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« Reply #1242 on: May 31, 2010, 08:03:38 PM »

Posted at RU. What a rotten thing to do.




I believe Wehwalt is a Wikipedia contributor.  Wonder if he was one of those recently caught adding porn to Wiki?




THERE IS A TEAM WHO POST UNDER THE NIC OF WEWALT.
A team, which points to even greater involvement by Aruba hiring paid bashers. Back in 2008 we we asked about who WeWalt was and this is what we discovered.

 

HOW AND WHY THE ARUBA GOVERNMENT ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL THE CONTENT OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S WICKIPEDIA PAGE.


There is ample evidence that the government of Aruba has had an active internet campaign since the first week after Natalee Holloway disappeared on the island on May 30, 2005. The tourism arms of the Aruba government, including the Minister of Tourism’s department, the Aruba Tourism Association (ATA) and the Aruba Hotel and Tourism Authority (AHATA) have all had their fingers in various internet campaigns, some so subversive as to try to portray Natalee Holloway as a drug using, drunken vixen responsible for her own demise and her mother, Beth Holloway, as having her daughter murdered to collect death insurance benefits.

The now-defunct Strategic Communications Task Force, a group of tourism, local businessmen, and public relations professionals, was set up by AHATA a several weeks after Holloway disappeared to stem the bad publicity Aruba was receiving by the U.S. mainstream media for the government and law enforcement entities’ lack of action and perceived corruption in the case. A web site, dubbed arubatruth.com, was set up to supposedly give Aruba’s side of the story. One of the task’s forces hired spokesman was none other the Chief of police Gerold Dompig, who attempted to blame Natalee Holloway as a victim of a drug overdose at her own hand. Dompig would later be fired for this and other noticeable blunders in the investigation.

AHATA was deeply involved in internet smears on the Holloway family under the direction of their “internet guru” (a term they used for her) Marlene Purcell, whose husband, Mark Purcell, appeared daily on internet forums often accusing Natalee Holloway of being a “drunken slut” and attempting to vindicate Aruba of any responsibility. Mark Purcell’s postings on American internet forums are well documented and, judging by the sheer number of posts and amount of time he spent on the internet trashing Holloway and defending Aruba, it would appear he was paid for doing such work.


AHATA’S STRATEGIC TASK FORCE ADMITS INVOLVEMENT WITH NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S WICKIPEDIA PAGE

The Strategic Communications Task Force, by their own open admission, was actively involved in promoting their agenda on the wide popular internet encyclopedia Wickipedia (which allows anyone to edit their content) as witness by this letter by the Aruba Time Share Association. Notice that Natalee holloway’s personal Wickipedia page is mentioned:

Letter to Aruba Time Share Association Members

Dear Members,

Lately, Aruba has been in the international news with the unfortunate disappearance of Natalee Holloway on May 30th 2005 and, more often than not, Aruba has been unable to give its side of the story. In the meantime, we have received numerous e-mails of members asking what really is going and one of the questions has been why the Government has not done more.

You may be aware that the Governor of Alabama has called for a boycott of travel to Aruba which did not receive the support of the State Department of the USA. Even so it has served to shed doubt on the minds of many prospective first-time visitors to Aruba and those who have only received one side of the story. The Aruba Timeshare Association (ATSA) is a partner in the Strategic Communication Task Force in Aruba and is eager and willing to give you regular updates and, in this regard, we recommend you visit www.arubatruth.com - a website set up intentionally for this purpose - to follow the latest developments. Additionally there is another objective and informative website set up like an encyclopedia, which can be accessed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway. (the official Wickipedia web page for Natalee Holloway)

We also welcome any member who is willing to offer any assistance to e-mail the task Force at arubatruth@yahoo.com.

The positive ties between the Netherlands and the USA go back many years when St. Eustatius (as part of the Netherlands Antilles) on November 10, 1776 was the first country in the world to recognize the USA for which fact she was afterwards punished by Admiral Rodney. Since then the ties between our countries have always been cordial and Aruba has become a home away from home for many visitors – including a vast number from the United States of America. Indeed, Aruba enjoys a status in the timeshare community of the Caribbean region and the rest of the World and is envied for our outstanding safety record. Although we sympathize with the grieving family, we also have to recognize that this isolated incident should not jeopardize a nation that has gone out of its way to find closure on this tragic incident.

Since you as a loyal member have had a first-hand experience of the positive aspects of our island, ATSA is of the opinion that together we can make a difference by informing the USA public that Aruba is not the island as depicted by some of the media.

Sincerely,

Aruba Time Share Association


ARUBA’S WICKIPEDIA MOUTHPIECE IS KEVIN WAYNE WILLIAMS, A.K.A. “WEHWALT”

Aruban tourism’s official mouthpiece on Natalee Holloway’s Wickipedia page is an “editor” who goes by the nickname “Wehwalt” , who has identified himself on other internet forums as Kevin Wayne Williams. Every change or addition on Holloway’s page is edited and contested by Wehwalt, who has made hundreds of edits and contributions to the text since its inception. He is also a writer and has contributed to the local newspaper in Bonnaire.

Kevin Wayne Williams is an American ex-patriot who moved to Bonaire, one of Aruba’s sister islands in the Netherland Antilles, in 2004. His Wickipedia bio description reads as follows:

Kevin Wayne Williams

Quick bio: Born on Johnson Air Force Base in Iruma, Japan back in 1960. Lived in the US from 1963-2004, and on Bonaire since 2004, where I currently own a hotel, The Great Escape. Hobbies include mandolin, harmonica, saxophone, Japanese, and evolutionary biology.

Williams is also well versed in internet communications, as mentioned on a Bonaire message board he frequents, BonaireTalk Newsgroup:

Kevin Wayne Williams
December 12, 2004

“We came from San Jose, California, after my wife Cathy and I were unemployed. I spent 20 years as an engineer working for companies like General Telephone and AT&T. In 1997 I formed my own company, Mayan Networks. In 2000 when the Internet collapsed in the US we went bankrupt; the company’s value went from $747 million dollars to nothing. My career never recovered. Cathy never owned a company, but the company she was working for went bankrupt in 2000 as well and she never found a job again.

In 2004 we realized there was nothing much left in California for us; we recognized that neither one of us was going to be an executive again. Nobody wants 45 year-old engineers and there aren’t any communication companies that need presidents.

We sold our house and bought The Great Escape hotel on Bonaire. I’d never been on Bonaire before. I’d spent two weeks in Aruba in 1999, and in 2001 I spend two weeks in Curacao; we’re divers. In October 2004 I came to Bonaire for three days. I’d seen the hotel on the Internet and came to see if it was worth buying.”

Williams and his wife sold The Great Escape hotel in 2007 posting on BonaireTalk:

Back to civilian life: Thanks to those who stayed with me By Kevin W. Williams (Pink Beach Properties (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #393) on Wednesday, September 5, 2007 - 7:59 pm:

“I have sold "The Great Escape", and the new owners will be closed for the month of September, after which they will reopen under a new name. “

And on the same forum he talks of his latest career adventure, Pink Beach Properties:

By Kevin W. Williams (Pink Beach Properties (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #394) on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 7:50 pm:
“It is a real estate venture, but don't be fooled by the "Pink Beach" part of the name. "Pink Beach Properties, B.V." has been my company name for years, and is the legal entity that owned The Great Escape.”

At first glance it would appear Kevin Wayne Williams’ motive is simply to protect the tourism interests in his area, but this posting on another internet forum seems to indicate a much deeper involvement. Note that he specifically mentions Natalee Holloway:

* From: Kevin Wayne Williams <kww.nihongo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:51:36 -0400

I take care of the articles on chimp/human hybridization, chromosomal polymorphism, Bonaire, Aruba, Curacao, the Netherlands Antilles, and Natalee Holloway. That's enough of a load.
KWW
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-04/msg02841.html

All of this raises questions about Williams connections to Aruba tourism. Is he paid by AHATA or some other Aruba tourism entity to edit the Natalee Holloway Wickipedia page?












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Lively Case Discussion #651 7/4 - 7/6/2007
« Reply #795 on: July 06, 2007, 03:57:08 PM »

Quote from: "Easywriter"
Moon's news was so exciting that they all passed right over it and started talking about this place again. lol
Lets give em something to talk about then
I have wondered who has such a vested interest in anything anti Natalee and family, that they would do their best to make Natalee's wikipedia article as trashy as can be, anti-twitty etc.

One of them I noticed was Wehwalt a anti twitty groupie at RU.

Wehwalt is a 44 year old guy, never married. He is a criminal defense attorney. He defends criminals for a living.
How do I know this info? He put it on the internet himself along with his photos. That makes his info and photo public domain.

Go to the Natalee holloway article on wikipedia..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalee_Holloway
Click on article history. You will see that wehwalt added this BS from Julia to Natalee's article.
Click on Wehwalt's name, go to his talk page where you will find this..."Well, it should be obvious from the materials on my myspace", www.myspace.com/thesuperfan that I am not lying--Wehwalt 17:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

http://www.myspace.com/thesuperfan



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wewhalt posted:
Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject:
Looks like a fairly standard boilerplate pleading. I use very similar language in Virginia when I file divorce pleadings. Really, the pleading says all that is required to be said.


Wiki user: Wehwalt
I live in Fairfax, Virginia, and am an attorney. I intend to improve the articles in which I have an interest.


Wehwalt
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Age: 45 years old
Gender: Male
Location: Fairfax, VA
Member since: Oct 27, 2005
Activity Date: active 3 years ago
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Sign: Pisces
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wehwalt posted:
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:32 am Post subject:
I wish Beth would follow Natalee's steps right into the ocean. I want her to prove to me that Natalee would not have washed out to sea. I see this as a win-win situation. If she washes out to sea, definite plus and a good news story for Greta. If she doesn't, well, maybe one of the beachcombers will take her home.


AND THE OTHER IS
WEHWALT = GARY GREENBAUM


17 of 34 people found the following review helpful:
Hard to say this advances Beth's cause, November 2, 2007
By Gary M. Greenbaum (Fairfax, VA USA) - See all my reviews


This review is from: Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith (Hardcover)
Much of what Holloway has said in this book, she has spread across the nightly cablecasts. There's really little new, and few answers for those who have noted her sometime contradictions (so where the cameras working at the Holiday Inn, or weren't they?)

One feels a great deal for Holloway, but one also gets the feeling that much of what she has written is aimed not to help the reader feel for her, but to get them to dislike the three best-known suspects and to dislike Aruba. Unhappily, it can't even do that.

Chapter after chapter of disappointment, not enlightenment. NOT a good read.

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17 of 35 people found the following review helpful:
Hard to say this advances Beth's cause, November 2, 2007
Much of what Holloway has said in this book, she has spread across the nightly cablecasts. There's really little new, and few answers for those who have noted her sometime contradictions (so where the cameras working at the Holiday Inn, or weren't they?)

One feels a great deal for Holloway, but one also gets the feeling that much of what she has written is aimed not to help the reader feel for her, but to get them to dislike the three best-known suspects and to dislike Aruba. Unhappily, it can't even do that.

Chapter after chapter of disappointment, not enlightenment. NOT a good read.

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THIS IS A REVIEW OF DAVE'S BOOK:

35 of 76 people found the following review helpful:
Rehash of what you saw on cable, April 12, 2006
Holloway and his two(!) co-authors add little in this book, which seems a shallow rehash of the news coverage.

Yes, we know, Dave considers his daughter to be a saint, and the Aruban authorities to be corrupt and incompetant. When he gets down to cases, he has little to prove this. Those who have watched Holloway make the rounds of the interview circuit know that he talks over and over about how some Aruban cop asked him "How much money you got?" when Dave approached him about searching for Natalee. That's as far as we really get on the corruption side of things, though Holloway is eager to hint--but not to name names, perhaps for fear of lawsuits.

If you want your image of St. Natalee confirmed, and your image of the Aruban authorities (Holloway tries to paint the ordinary islander positively) as dishonest or nonresponsive, by all means buy this book. Everyone else should give it a miss and wait for the facts, rather than a father's attempt at canonization, to come out.

Holloway deserves our sympathy. But not our bucks.

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Gary Greenbaum (born March 13, 1963 in New York, NY) is a Fairfax, Virginia attorney. He is best known in the law for his defenses of convicted child molester Roland Iliff in 1998 in a case that drew national attention[1], and machete slasher Hector Flores in 2004.[2]

Greenbaum is a 1981 graduate of Pascack Valley High School in Hillsdale, New Jersey and a 1985 graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. He also received his MBA from New York University in 1987 and his J.D. in 1990 from The George Washington University. He is licensed to practice law in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Virginia, North Dakota, and the District of Columbia.


[edit] College Bowl
Greenbaum is one of the few people to exhaust their six-year eligibility for College Bowl (the intercollegiate quiz competition), playing for all three of his universities. In 1987, he was the scoring leader for NYU as he took them to the national quarterfinals. In 1988, he won the Regional MVP award for GWU despite losing in the regional finals. In 1989 and 1990, he captained GWU to the national Final Four, finishing fourth and third respectively, each time losing to the eventual national champion. In 1989, he was voted a national all-star.

He also coached GWU to a national fourth place finish in 1994.


[edit] Legal career
Greenbaum was, and is, a solo practitioner in Fairfax concentrating on juvenile court and criminal defense work.

In 1997, he was retained to defend Roland Iliff, in a case that gained national attention. Iliff was accused of luring 12-year-old Brian Poulsen across the country after meeting him in an online chat room, secreting him in his basement, and three times having sexual relations with him. Iliff was convicted in 1998 despite a vigorous defense and sentenced to sixty years.

In 2004, Greenbaum was appointed to represent MS-13 member Heyner Flores on malicious wounding and related charges. Flores, whose case received considerable local attention, was accused of cutting off a rival gang member's hand with a machete. Flores pled guilty and received fifteen years.


[edit] Musical activities
Greenbaum has become notable, and received media attention, as a hardcore fan of several bands, including Simple Plan. On December 13, 2005, he was interviewed by Le Journal de Montreal for his fiftieth Simple Plan show in Rimouski, Quebec, and a feature appeared in the newspaper the next day. He was also interviewed by Le Journal de Quebec before his 66th show in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec on June 30, 2006, and a similar feature appeared the following day. He has also done radio and television interviews, and band members have talked about him in interviews.[3] He has travelled extensively in support of the band and posts reviews of concerts (he has attended 1 on www.simpleplanonline.com.

Greenbaum has also toured on the 2006 and 2007 Vans Warped Tour (having purchased his pass via an eBay charity auction), and with and Silverstein (138 shows] and Senses Fail (108 shows). He was a VIP passholder for the 2007 Taste of Chaos Tour and an All Access passholder for the international Taste of Chaos tour in 2007. He has also toured with Aiden (106 shows) and The Used (36 shows).

On the Silverstein CD, Arrivals and Departures, Greenbaum is thanked in the liner notes.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Greenbaum"

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« Reply #1243 on: May 31, 2010, 08:09:51 PM »

Everything adds up. Kevin Williams is:

1- a hotel owner in Bonnaire with a vested interest in the health of tourism in the ABC islands. 70% of his business is the US market.

2- worked for twenty years in the communications market before opening his own company during the dot.com bubble. Internet experience!

3- a writer in Bonnaire, who better to edit a Wicki site.




Title: Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on May 02, 2007, 11:52:50 PM
here is Wehalt a Member over at Refugees:User:Wehwalt
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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 This user is a member of the League of Copyeditors.
I live in Fairfax, Virginia, and am an attorney. I intend to improve the articles I have an interest in.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1114.0
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http://www.realtech.co.za/realwiki.php?title=User:Wehwalt

I live in Fairfax, Virginia, and am an attorney
I am in Europe right now with limited internet access

I lhttp://www.realtech.co.za/realwiki.php?title=User_talk:Kww
eft the below on AuburnPilot's talk page





THREAD ON THIS AT BFN

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8865.0


Maybe it's a coincidence that this guy is into pilot forums, but Andre Menses gave 7 statements to LE - He was a pilot/photographer.[/u]



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* From: Kevin Wayne Williams <kww.nihongo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:51:36 -0400
I take care of the articles on chimp/human hybridization, chromosomal polymorphism, Bonaire, Aruba, Curacao, the Netherlands Antilles, and Natalee Holloway. That's enough of a load.
KWW
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Talk/talk.origins/2007-04/msg02841.html


This posted by Elaine at SM:

On the wikki article, as pathetic as it is, I did some digging to see what was going on and how they are allowed to take what started as agreat page about Natalee and turn it into that trash. Found some inter., very inter. stuff out...wehalt a person who keeps reverting the page back after we try to fix it is a member RU, then another guy who keeps reverting the page back to trash is Kww,..User:Kww From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[edit] Kevin Wayne Williams
Quick bio: Born on Johnson Air Force Base in Iruma, Japan back in 1960. Lived in the US from 1963-2004, and on Bonaire since 2004, where I currently own a hotel, The Great Escape.
Hobbies include mandolin, harmonica, saxophone, Japanese, and evolutionary biology.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kww



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kww
Kevin Wayne Williams

Quick bio: Born on Johnson Air Force Base in Iruma, Japan back in 1960. Lived in the US from 1963-2004, and on Bonaire since 2004, where I ran "The Great Escape" hotel for a few years. Currently in real estate development.

Hobbies include mandolin, harmonica, saxophone, Japanese, and evolutionary biology.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #165) on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostPrint Post

Actually, Antony, you don't have to be unable to hire a Bonairean before hiring a Dutchman. You can hire someone with a Dutch passport without any special procedures at all.

Permit renewals tend not to be much of a problem for anyone. Once you manage to get one, they primarily look at the applicant's behaviour when renewing. You don't have to demonstrate that you couldn't hire a Bonairean again.
http://www.bonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/137781/270974.html?1187902479
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #166) on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 4:03 pm: Edit PostPrint Post

My understanding is that one of the major discussion points on the "direct ties to Holland" discussion is what to do with our work permit system. We have a lot of permits issued to people from adjacent countries that would have a hard time getting permits under Dutch law, and a lot of obstacles in the way of permits that would be virtually automatic under Dutch law.
http://www.bonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/137781/270974.html?1187902479
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HE is a reporter for Bonaire news

http://tinyurl.com/6zvrz9
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THE GREAT ESCAPE HOTEL
It's a 10 room Hotel in Bonaire.
E.E.G. Boulevard 97
Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles
 


HE SOLD IT IN 2007
Bonaire has a new property which has recently opened it doors. Formerly The Great Escape, this property has been purchased by new management and has undergone a transformation and been renamed as Roomer Hotel Restaurant.
The owners, Martin and Nicole Roomer


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« Reply #1244 on: May 31, 2010, 08:22:37 PM »

Thanks Kermit!   

Interesting and infuriating.     

It's always good to see you.   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #1245 on: May 31, 2010, 08:23:36 PM »

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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 You may not see me hanging in the rafters all the time, but I check in here many times a day/night.  Justice for Natalee.   an angelic monkey  MuffyBee
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« Reply #1247 on: May 31, 2010, 09:02:39 PM »

 

Klaas and Kermit

I agree.  The trolls are definitely in charge of the Natalee Holloway article in Wikipedia online.  As time passes and memories fade ...  I fear that those reading the article who do not possess an indepth knowledge of the case ... would be inclined to believe.

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Natalee Holloway missing persons center set to open in D.C. in June
By Theola Labbé-DeBose  |  May 27, 2010; 11:01 AM ET
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/around-the-nation/natalee-holloway-missing-perso.html

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Let's face it, we will never know what happened to her. We do know that an parents of an Alabama high school senior class sent their kids to Aruba on an all you can drink extravaganza, to evade the drinking laws of the US, and this happened.
Posted by: Nemo24601 | May 27, 2010 2:04 PM

Perhaps if Beth hadn't played "ugly American" with her friends who jetted off to Aruba by private jet, and then utterly alienated the Arubans after they had helped so much, Natalee would have been found. I would read the Wikipedia article, it is an extremely fair treatment of what happened, unlike Elizabeth Ann Reynolds Holloway Twitty Holloway's self serving and self aggrandizing "book"
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« Reply #1248 on: May 31, 2010, 09:26:48 PM »

Great work, Kermit.


JUST KEEP CULLING THEM.

Who can stand the longest? Certainly, not Paulus.
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« Reply #1249 on: May 31, 2010, 09:38:18 PM »

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Natalee-Holloway/Y03AwEUcs0CuIh-MXO1bHw.cspx


Natalee Holloway...

Last Update: 9:03 pm


Sunday marks the five year anniversary of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.  Her mother Beth says she has transitioned from victim to victor.  She’s launched two new programs:  The non-profit Natalee Holloway Resource Center, to help families who have missing loved ones.  She has also joined forces with Mayday 360, a company to help families in crisis when they run into trouble overseas. Holloway says she does believe she will see justice for her daughter.

The web address for Mayday 360 is listed on this page.  It, along with the other two addresses mentioned in this article can be found in our "hotlinks" section right here on cbs42.com.




I believe it too.  I know you all believe it.

One more time....   

Take notice Aruba.  Joran.  Kalpoes.

We are not going away.
We will not give up. 
We will never abandon our dedication to truth and justice for Natalee.

Nope.

Never.


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« Reply #1250 on: May 31, 2010, 09:41:12 PM »


Today we are one day closer to Justice for Natalee

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« Reply #1251 on: May 31, 2010, 09:46:08 PM »

Dayummmmmmmm!!!!


Now that is a mug only a mother could love. Geech boy lives.


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« Reply #1252 on: May 31, 2010, 10:13:58 PM »

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 You may not see me hanging in the rafters all the time, but I check in here many times a day/night.  Justice for Natalee.   an angelic monkey  MuffyBee

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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1253 on: May 31, 2010, 10:22:59 PM »

Wehwalt is a 44 year old guy, never married.


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« Reply #1254 on: May 31, 2010, 10:39:10 PM »

Everything adds up. Kevin Williams is:

1- a hotel owner in Bonnaire with a vested interest in the health of tourism in the ABC islands. 70% of his business is the US market.

2- worked for twenty years in the communications market before opening his own company during the dot.com bubble. Internet experience!

3- a writer in Bonnaire, who better to edit a Wicki site.




Title: Lively Case Discussion #612 5/2 - 5/4/2007
Post by: Elaine on May 02, 2007, 11:52:50 PM
here is Wehalt a Member over at Refugees:User:Wehwalt
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 This user is a member of the League of Copyeditors.
I live in Fairfax, Virginia, and am an attorney. I intend to improve the articles I have an interest in.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1114.0
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I live in Fairfax, Virginia, and am an attorney
I am in Europe right now with limited internet access

I lhttp://www.realtech.co.za/realwiki.php?title=User_talk:Kww
eft the below on AuburnPilot's talk page





THREAD ON THIS AT BFN

http://blogsfornatalee.com/forum/index.php?topic=8865.0


Maybe it's a coincidence that this guy is into pilot forums, but Andre Menses gave 7 statements to LE - He was a pilot/photographer.[/u]



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* From: Kevin Wayne Williams <kww.nihongo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I take care of the articles on chimp/human hybridization, chromosomal polymorphism, Bonaire, Aruba, Curacao, the Netherlands Antilles, and Natalee Holloway. That's enough of a load.
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This posted by Elaine at SM:

On the wikki article, as pathetic as it is, I did some digging to see what was going on and how they are allowed to take what started as agreat page about Natalee and turn it into that trash. Found some inter., very inter. stuff out...wehalt a person who keeps reverting the page back after we try to fix it is a member RU, then another guy who keeps reverting the page back to trash is Kww,..User:Kww From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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[edit] Kevin Wayne Williams
Quick bio: Born on Johnson Air Force Base in Iruma, Japan back in 1960. Lived in the US from 1963-2004, and on Bonaire since 2004, where I currently own a hotel, The Great Escape.
Hobbies include mandolin, harmonica, saxophone, Japanese, and evolutionary biology.

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Kevin Wayne Williams

Quick bio: Born on Johnson Air Force Base in Iruma, Japan back in 1960. Lived in the US from 1963-2004, and on Bonaire since 2004, where I ran "The Great Escape" hotel for a few years. Currently in real estate development.

Hobbies include mandolin, harmonica, saxophone, Japanese, and evolutionary biology.
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #165) on Saturday, July 8, 2006 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostPrint Post

Actually, Antony, you don't have to be unable to hire a Bonairean before hiring a Dutchman. You can hire someone with a Dutch passport without any special procedures at all.

Permit renewals tend not to be much of a problem for anyone. Once you manage to get one, they primarily look at the applicant's behaviour when renewing. You don't have to demonstrate that you couldn't hire a Bonairean again.
http://www.bonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/137781/270974.html?1187902479
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By Kevin Wayne Williams (The Great Escape) (Experienced BonaireTalker - Post #166) on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 4:03 pm: Edit PostPrint Post

My understanding is that one of the major discussion points on the "direct ties to Holland" discussion is what to do with our work permit system. We have a lot of permits issued to people from adjacent countries that would have a hard time getting permits under Dutch law, and a lot of obstacles in the way of permits that would be virtually automatic under Dutch law.
http://www.bonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/137781/270974.html?1187902479
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http://tinyurl.com/6zvrz9
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It's a 10 room Hotel in Bonaire.
E.E.G. Boulevard 97
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Bonaire has a new property which has recently opened it doors. Formerly The Great Escape, this property has been purchased by new management and has undergone a transformation and been renamed as Roomer Hotel Restaurant.
The owners, Martin and Nicole Roomer




Wonder if he is any relation to Eric Williams? 
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« Reply #1255 on: May 31, 2010, 10:44:00 PM »

Interesting thought Klaas!
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« Reply #1256 on: May 31, 2010, 10:49:25 PM »

Pretty sure this is Wehwalt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wehwalt/dyk
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« Reply #1257 on: May 31, 2010, 10:49:28 PM »

I DID,HAVE,AND ALWAYS WILL STAND WITH THE FROG


Me thinks,the FROG has a slight idea what the FROG is doing but,what do I know?

I also appreciate that TM is bringing the murder and crime thread articles here,in turn bringing more attention to both the travesties that continue to happen in Aruba,as well as shed a brighter light on what is going on with Justice for Natalee Holloway!


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« Reply #1258 on: May 31, 2010, 10:49:47 PM »

Everything adds up. Kevin Williams is:

1- a hotel owner in Bonnaire with a vested interest in the health of tourism in the ABC islands. 70% of his business is the US market.

2- worked for twenty years in the communications market before opening his own company during the dot.com bubble. Internet experience!

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Wonder if he is any relation to Eric Williams? 

 


Charles Croes  - On the Record w/ Greta - June 30, 2005

CHARLES CROES: A major friend of mine called me up. He was working with Natalee's mom to help them find Natalee.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Why would he call you? What is your occupation that would be a reason he would call you?

C. CROES: Well, I have a sail (cell) rental company. And there was apparently a phone call made. And he was calling me betting or hoping that the phone call was made from one of our phones, and so that's why he called me.

VAN SUSTEREN: About what time did he call you?

C. CROES: He called me at 11:30.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did he say to you?

C. CROES: He told me that he needed my help. And I asked him what it was about. And he told me that it had to do something with a cell phone. And I didn't relate it to anything but work at that point.

C. CROES: ,,, And then he said, "There is a possibility that a phone call was made using one of our phones." And I said, "OK." And he said, "It's very, very important." I said, "Fine," and I asked him to go into further details, and he did. And then I made arrangements to go see him.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161233,00.html


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2)Do you know who called in Charles Croes that first night?


Jug: Eric Williams

3)Could it have been the DEA agent?

Jug: yes

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« Reply #1259 on: May 31, 2010, 11:17:00 PM »

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