Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10

[Lifesong]

I just checked SCRUX to see if Jan Brennan aka Medleyrelay aka Billybob had posted the latest about her sweetie Joran.   So far nothing at all.

These people like Jan Brennan, many of the RU members, many like Renfro in Aruba are partially responsible for this girls murder.

I agree.

I agree as well.  They knew.     We all know they knew.

That means you Purcell.

That means you Caps.

[Anna]

http://nos.nl/audio/161651-om-aruba-over-nieuwe-zaak-joran-van-der-sloot.html


It's just audio and is in Dutch but I posted it so we have proof that the OM in Aruba is fully aware.  As in aware enough not to let Joran back in the country aware.

[Northern Rose]

Dutch to English translation


AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Joran van der Sloot in Peru main suspect in the murder of Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez, the daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. Peruvian media reported that Wednesday. Also a spokeswoman for the prosecution in Aruba is opposite the AP Wednesday that confirmed.

The girl was found dead in a hotel in the town of Miraflores. The room was booked in the name of Van der Sloot. Hotel staff were the girl and Van der Sloot have seen together late last week.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague was the suspicion against Van der Sloot Wednesday at the start of the evening is not yet confirmed, a spokesman know.

Peruvian media reported that Van der Sloot on May 14 Peru entered. He would have left again May 31 Peru, to Chile.

Van der Sloot was a long time suspect in the case of the notorious disappearance of the American girl Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

http://www.destentor.nl/algemeen/binnenland/6776504/OM-Aruba-Joran-verdachte-moordzaak-Peru.ece

[Anna]

RTL news says: He did travel with two another guys in a black pick up (truck) to the border of Chili on Monday

Also apparently Joran arrived in Peru May 14 is what is being reported on Dutch news.

[Cappuccino]

FOXNEWS - Megan Kelly (sp) now reporting breaking news about JORAN

YES YES, I'm watching!!

Me too....OMG this Pervuian woman was missing from a hotel for 5 days & yes Joran is officially named as a suspect in her murder, found today.    Most of us knew this guy was a sociopath, and I have suspected capable of being a serial killer.   How many others?

Dear God I pray they have something concrete to nail his smug @$$ to a gurney!

[Northern Rose]

Dutch to English translation

Joran van der Sloot main murder suspect Peruvian woman
Wednesday, June 2, 2010 5:43 p.m.

Joran van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of the daughter of a Peruvian businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. It has the OM in Aruba confirmed. Joran on May 31 the border from Peru to Chile crossed.

Van der Sloot has been in the OM and is now a fugitive through Interpol reported internationally.

Media in Peru reported that Stephany Tatiana Ramírez Flores was found dead in hotel TAC in Miraflores, a neighborhood in the capital Lima. She was stabbed have been killed.

Joran on name
The 21-year-old daughter of race car driver Ricardo Flores was found in a room on behalf of Joran van der Sloot had been made, according to various news sites.

Also, the hotel staff to the police stated that they van der Sloot (22) last weekend with the victim saw.

Casino
The father of the victim on Peruvian television stated that Van der Sloot on the night of Sunday morning has left a casino with his daughter. On security monitoring would show that the two were together.

The father of the murdered woman further stated that Van der Sloot is likely fled to Chile. "We do not know whether he is still there, or that he went to Argentina," said Flores.

Holloway
Joran has long been suspected of involvement in the disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, but it is the prosecution never managed to make the case hard. Also crime reporter Peter R. de Vries made frantic efforts, and also let Joran confession, but it did not lead to an arrest.

Remarkably, the date (May 30) the killing of Flores exactly the same as that of the disappearance of Holloway five years ago.

http://www.elsevier.nl/web/Lifestyle/Society/267240/Joran-van-der-Sloot-hoofdverdachte-moord-Peruaanse-vrouw.htm

[klaasend]

RTL news says: He did travel with two another guys in a black pick up (truck) to the border of Chili on Monday

Also apparently Joran arrived in Peru May 14 is what is being reported on Dutch news.

Thanks ANNA

I say again, anyone with access to Joran's facebook or myspace should look for friends in Peru, Chile or Argentina. 

[caesu]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

[Sassycat]

I just checked SCRUX to see if Jan Brennan aka Medleyrelay aka Billybob had posted the latest about her sweetie Joran.   So far nothing at all.

These people like Jan Brennan, many of the RU members, many like Renfro in Aruba are partially responsible for this girls murder.

I agree.

I agree as well.  They knew.     We all know they knew.

That means you Purcell.

That means you Caps.

I agree too.   

[Northern Rose]

I hope this works.  Interview with Ricardo Flores.

<a href="http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760" target="_blank">http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760</a>

[klaasend]

Wonder what Melody means by this post.  This would be the day after Joran leaves Aruba:

[klaasend]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Thanks CAESU

[San]

FOX NEWS ALERT

Natalee Holloway murder suspect sought in death of 21-year-old woman in Peru

[Northern Rose]

I hope this works.  Interview with Ricardo Flores.

<a href="http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760" target="_blank">http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760</a>

the interview is here.  Sorry about not being able to embed it. 

http://nos.nl/artikel/161645-joran-genoemd-in-nieuwe-moordzaak.html

[Anna]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Get him, Interpol!!!  Don't let him get back to Aruba or anywhere anybody will help him!

And if people find any friends of his in Chili or Argentina, report them to Interpol but I suspect they are already all over his nasty little social pages.

Hunt him down like the dog that he is and show him what a real jail looks like. 

I wonder if Peru has the death penalty.

[Cappuccino]

I hope this works.  Interview with Ricardo Flores.

<a href="http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760" target="_blank">http://elcomercio.pe/player/488760</a>

It worked Northernrose but its choppy & in need of translation up to the point that I viewed (about halfway or more thru)

[Lifesong]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Get him, Interpol!!!  Don't let him get back to Aruba or anywhere anybody will help him!

And if people find any friends of his in Chili or Argentina, report them to Interpol but I suspect they are already all over his nasty little social pages.

Hunt him down like the dog that he is and show him what a real jail looks like. 

I wonder if Peru has the death penalty.

Joran is really close to "shoot on sight" vigilante justice, imo. 

He may not get out of Chili alive if there are fans of the race car driving dad there. 

Just sayin'.

[Northern Rose]

Dutch to English translation

Joran van der Sloot suspected of murder Peru LIMA - Joran van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of 21 year old daughter of businessman and racing driver Ricardo Flores. The Dutchman is a fugitive and is wanted by Interpol.

Reported that Foreign Affairs in The Hague and the OM on Aruba. According to a spokesman of the ministry is Van der Sloot is now in Chile.

Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez was found dead Wednesday morning in hotel TAC in the district of Miraflores in Lima, Peru. She has been stabbed and had also been killed several more wounds, inflicted by violence on her body.

According to several Peruvian newspapers and news sites, the hotel room where the body was found, the name of Van der Sloot would be made. Hotel staff were also the police have stated that they Van der Sloot last weekend with the victim saw.

The father of the victim, Ricardo Flores, left on the Peruvian television know that Van der Sloot on the night of Sunday morning has left a casino with his daughter. This is clear from images of surveillance cameras. On Sunday, the woman were killed.

"International reported"

According to Peruvian media, Van der Sloot is currently a fugitive. Interpol is hunting for the Dutchman, now an international alert. There is an international warrant against him. The Dutch authorities, according to the spokesman of Foreign Affairs to contact in Chile.

The father of the victim stated that Van der Sloot would have fled to Chile. "We do not know whether he is still there, or that he went to Argentina," said Flores.

Flores had also known that the murderer of his daughter can come away without punishment. "I am calling the police on us to keep helping. My daughter was stabbed to death and I hope that this crime does not go unpunished."

Van der Sloot is according to local media on May 14 Peru received.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6847070/___Joran_van_der_Sloot_verdacht_van_moord_Peru___.html?p=1,1

[wingnut]

Wow.  I am still processing this. 

[Nut44x4]

  WTF!!!!!! I have been out mowing the lawn and KABOOM! 

Oh crap, forgive me...I am sorry another young girl is dead