Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10

[Sdb]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Get him, Interpol!!!  Don't let him get back to Aruba or anywhere anybody will help him!

And if people find any friends of his in Chili or Argentina, report them to Interpol but I suspect they are already all over his nasty little social pages.

Hunt him down like the dog that he is and show him what a real jail looks like. 

I wonder if Peru has the death penalty.

I think Peruvian prisons ARE a death penalty. I wonder if/when he is caught in Chili or Argentina they will send him to Peru.

[no rose colored glasses]

Death Penalty Outlawed for Ordinary Crimes2 (year)

    * Bolivia (1997)
    * Brazil (1979)
    * Cook Islands (n.a.)
    * El Salvador (1983)
    * Fiji (1979)
    * Israel (1954)

   

    * Kazakhstan (2007)
    * Kyrgyzstan (2007)
    * Latvia (1999)
    * Peru (1979)
Death penalty is permitted only for exceptional crimes, such as crimes committed under military law or in wartime.

[klaasend]

You all have seen this, been posted in the forum but...

New Blink Post:

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/02/joran-van-der-sloot-wanted-for-murder-in-peru-argentina/

[jen3560]

Thanks Klaas, Anna, and any others for the latest reports.  I'm really not shocked, we all knew it was just a matter of time.

Unless I missed it somewhere, none of the Aruba papers even acknowledged the five year anniversary of Natalee's disappearance...not even Diario. 

I'm sure they didn't want to remind or upset any tourists there for all the activities going on...Soul Beach...International Film Festival...etc.  And you know how they hate being put in the spotlight over Natalee's case..

Well wonder if Richard Gere will want Anita picking him up from the airport now.   

My sincere sympathy goes out to the family of the victim in Peru. 

No sympathy for Aruba at all...I hope every network in the world picks up on the latest about their golden "boy"...and crucifies them over and over and over again for not doing the right thing in Natalee's case.  They had it coming! 

TxMom - that is the FIRST thing I thought of when a deer friend called to tell me the news.  It is exactly 5 years to the day he killed Natalee, isn't it?

 

[Brandi]

Dutch State Department (Ministry of Foreign Affairs) says Joran is in Chili

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1000/Nieuws/article/detail/487668/2010/06/02/Joran-zit-in-Chili.dhtml

Get him, Interpol!!!  Don't let him get back to Aruba or anywhere anybody will help him!

And if people find any friends of his in Chili or Argentina, report them to Interpol but I suspect they are already all over his nasty little social pages.

Hunt him down like the dog that he is and show him what a real jail looks like. 

I wonder if Peru has the death penalty.

This is what I found on the death penalty in Peru:

For ordinary crimes, 10 countries, namely: Chile, Brazil, El Salvador, Fiji, Latvia, Peru, Israel, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan have laws for death penalty only for exceptional cases such as crimes under the military law or crimes committed in exceptional circumstances.

http://tinyurl.com/22wx2dd

[Northern Rose]

Spanish to English translation

Flores Stephany's murderer confesses to killing another young woman in Aruba [+ video]

 Just disgusting. The murderer of the young Stephany Flores and leak today and managed to Chile Tacna, five years ago did the same with the American girl Natalee Holloway on the beaches of Aruba. Only one has ability journalist posing as a friend, got the murderer Joran van der Sloot confessed to the heinous crime.

The images, recorded by a hidden camera already circulating on the Internet, where Van der Sloot subject, be sure that justice can not condemn him for the crime of the U.S. and even think about suing the state of Jamaica for having initially involve him in the disappearance the girl on a beach in Aruba.

According to the video, Van der Sloot, appears at times fearful and calming their nerves with a marijuana cigarette, where even announced that the girl died, this called for a pay phone to his friend, whom he describes as "very confident" , and then it would have taken the corpse to take a canoe out to sea, where she launched into the water.

For this detail, the murderer is sure that the Jamaican authorities will not find the corpse of the young American, who admits to having been a few hours and would have been a wealthy person, which seems to be motive for the killing.

Initially refuses and says "I never kill a girl, only I was lucky"

But to the question: "Where the hell is she, Joran?" He replies, "Do not ever going to find. Do not know where exactly but will not ever find. I know this for a higher power ... a power ... "

Continue the conversation until the journalist launches a key question: - Is thrown out to sea? Alone?, To which the murderer replies: "Yes, yes.

- How? "They swam or something?

"You know, I know people. Prefer not to say his name because he always looks back. Not a family but someone close to me.

- In a boat?

"Yes.

Then he concludes: "I'm happy it's over. Let me tell you something: there are two people whom I trust. One is the man who helped me and the other person is you.

http://www.cronicaviva.com.pe/content/view/117167/31/

[Nut44x4]

There could be others no one has connected him to yet...he travels all over the world.

[Magnolia]

Wow.  I am still processing this. 

Me too!!  I pray he is caught.

[SunnyinTX]

Thailand has picked up on it now too:

BREAKING: Natalee Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Accused of Peru Murder


June 2nd, 2010 - 11:33 pm ICT by Angela Kaye Mason -

June 2 (THAINDIAN NEWS) The news has just been released by BNO News that Joran Van Der Sloot has been accused in Peru, for the murder of a 21 year old female. Van Der Sloot was the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Hollaway, an American student who vanished on May 30, 2005 while on her senior trip to Aruba.

Interpol is said to be on the heels of Juran Van Der Sloot, since all evidence points to him as the suspect in the murder of the daughter of a racer, Ricardo Flores. Sthefany Tatiana Flores Ramirez was found dead this morning in the Miraflores hotel Tac, after vanishing on Friday. Her family named Joran as the last person to see her alive. She reportedly left a casino with Joran and was not seen again until her body was found. Joran is said to have fled the country on May 31, and is suspected of being in Argentina. Interpol is searching for him.

Joran Van Der Sloot has been long suspected of foul play in the disappearance on Natalee Holloway, and has confessed to her death in several different scenarios, but each one just added to the fact that there was too much false evidence and not enough true evidence in the case for a conviction. Since Hollaway’s body was not found, it also made an arrest difficult in the case. Since the body of Ms. Ramirez was found in Peru, perhaps the outcome will not be so good for Joran Van Der Sloot this time, and justice may finally be served.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world/breaking-natalie-holloway-suspect-joran-van-der-sloot-accused-of-peru-murder_100374054.html

HOLY MOLEY!  I got back from the dentist and had an email about this and asked me what I knew....I didn't know anything but I knew the Monks would!  I hope they have enough to get him and try and convict him.............reading on!!

[jen3560]

I am soooo angry.

For 5 years we've been saying this would happen and now it has.

Anita van der Sloot - this young woman's blood is on your hands.

Judges of Aruba - this young woman's blood is on your hands.

Jan van der Straaten, Gerald Dompig and Dolph Richardson - this young woman's blood is on your hands.

I am just sooo angry! 

       

I hope all of those you named feel it, Lifesong.  I hope they actually feel the guilt of their own actions in letting that sonofab*tch roam free.  I hope they take actions to remove themselves from the equasion of life.

[Sassycat]

Death Penalty Outlawed for Ordinary Crimes2 (year)

    * Bolivia (1997)
    * Brazil (1979)
    * Cook Islands (n.a.)
    * El Salvador (1983)
    * Fiji (1979)
    * Israel (1954)

   

    * Kazakhstan (2007)
    * Kyrgyzstan (2007)
    * Latvia (1999)
    * Peru (1979)
Death penalty is permitted only for exceptional crimes, such as crimes committed under military law or in wartime.

Thanks.   

[Northern Rose]

Dutch to English translationShow romanization

"Joran is in Chile"

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - Joran van der Sloot is according to a spokesman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague, Chile.

The spokesman confirmed Wednesday that Van der Sloot was the prime suspect in the murder of Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez in Peru.

There is an international warrant issued against Van der Sloot. The Dutch authorities, according to the spokesman of Foreign Affairs to contact in Chile.

http://www.destentor.nl/algemeen/binnenland/6776762/Joran-zit-in-Chili.ece

[caesu]

Police say Holloway suspect sought in Peru slaying

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas/

[Northern Rose]

Dutch to English translation

Joran van der Sloot is again suspected of murder, this time in a Peruvian woman. His name has surfaced in several Peruvian media, and the Public Prosecutor of Aruba now confirms that he is suspected.

Van der Sloot would be victim, 21-year-old Tatiana Flores Stephany Ramirez with stab wounds have been killed in a hotel in the Peruvian capital Lima. That would be Monday morning in his place. The room was booked in the name of Van der Sloot.

Casino
Van der Sloot and Ramírez had previously been to a casino. There were images from a surveillance camera, which shows how the couple leaving the casino together. Hotel staff also stated that they have seen the two together. The police would footprints Van der Sloot have found.

Hotspot
All this took place in Miraflores, an upscale district of Lima. The district is known for the many shops, restaurants and clubs. It is a hotspot among teens and twenties. Ramirez is the daughter of Ricardo Flores, a renowned Peruvian businessman and racing driver. He has made his story on television about the murder of his daughter.

Interpol
According to the prosecution in Aruba, Van der Sloot fugitive. He is now wanted by Interpol. Van der Sloot would have left last Monday to Chile, for from that country to travel to Argentina. According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in The Hague, he is still in Chile.

Natalee Holloway
The 22-year-old Van der Sloot was a long time as the main suspect in the case of the notorious disappearance of the American girl Natalee Holloway in Aruba. Five years after the disappearance attack police and courts are still in the dark.


http://www.rnw.nl/nederlands/article/joran-opnieuw-verdacht-van-moord

[klaasend]

Foxnews - Joran is being hunted by Interpol.  They are thinking he may be in Argentina now.

Tito Lacle - has the report on his Facebook

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000717925522&v=wall&ref=ts#!/titolacle

[San]

Megyn Kelley said he has now been named the prime suspect.

Phil Keating reporting from Miami.  He is being wanted and hunted by Interpol.

Sometime between Sunday afternoon and Monday afternoon he went by car through Chile.

Law Enforcement said he was the last person with her.

[jen3560]

RTL news says: He did travel with two another guys in a black pick up (truck) to the border of Chili on Monday

Also apparently Joran arrived in Peru May 14 is what is being reported on Dutch news.

Thanks ANNA

I say again, anyone with access to Joran's facebook or myspace should look for friends in Peru, Chile or Argentina. 

Several are on it 

[caesu]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/TheLaw/joran-van-der-sloot-prime-suspect-natalee-holloway/story?id=10807407

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/

[MsVada]

There could be others no one has connected him to yet...he travels all over the world.

I so agree with this!!!

[klaasend]

I just got two breaking news alerts on it as well:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06/02/report-natalee-holloway-suspect-sought-murder-peru/

Report: Former Natalee Holloway Suspect Sought in Murder in Peru

Published June 02, 2010

The Dutch man who was the main suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is being sought in the murder of a woman in Peru, Thaindian News reported Wednesday.

Joran Van der Sloot, 22, is suspected of murdering Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, in Peru. Ramirez's body was found with multiple stab wounds on May 26.

According to Ramirez's friends, the 21-year-old was reportedly last seen leaving a Lima, Peru, casino with Van der Sloot at 5:16 a.m. local time.

Van der Sloot is now believed to be in Chile, according to police.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/TheLaw/joran-van-der-loot-prime-suspect-natalee-holloway/story?id=10807407

Natalee Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Sought in Peru Murder
Dutch National Last to Be Seen with Murdered Woman, on the Lam in South America
By RUSSELL GOLDMAN and CHRISTINE BROUWER

June 2, 2010—

Joran van der Sloot, the 22-year-old Dutch playboy twice arrested in the mysterious disappearance of American Natalee Holloway, has been named the prime suspect in the death of a young Peruvian woman found dead in a Lima hotel today, five days after she disappeared.

Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21, disappeared Friday and was found dead this morning at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima, Peru. Flores was last seen with van der Sloot, the Dutch national who was twice arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of Holloway, an 18-year-old American student who went missing in Aruba five years ago this week.

Flores was found beaten and stabbed to death in a room booked in van der Sloot's named, according to Dutch media reports.

Authorities believe van der Sloot has fled Peru, passing through customs into Chile, and is on his way to Argentina. Peruvian officials are in the process of putting together an international warrant, Dutch foreign ministry officials told ABC News.

Van Der Sloot reportedly entered Peru on May 14 and left on May 31.

Flores left a friend's home Wednesday morning and was last seen that evening leaving a casino with Van der Sloot, according local media quoting to the woman's father, Ricardo Flores, a Peruvian businessman and racecar driver. Surveillance cameras caught the pair leaving the casino together.

Holloway similarly disappeared after being last seen with Van der Sloot outside an Aruban night club on May 30, 2005. Van der Sloot was initially arrested in Holloway's disappearance in June of that year. He was released and arrested again in 2007, when he was detained for questioning but never charged.

In 2008, Dutch journalist Peter de Vries claimed he solved the case when Van der Sloot confessed to an undercover reporter to being with Holloway when she died and dumping her body in the Caribbean Sea.

In February 2010, a Dutch tabloid published a supposed confession by Van Der Sloot in which he said Halloway got drunk and fell from a balcony.

The Justice Department in Aruba was quick to dismiss the details of van der Sloot's latest alleged confession, telling ABC News, "We have been aware of the existence of this interview since August of last year. We investigated the claims made. The Aruban police investigated, with help from specialists with the Dutch police.

Spokeswoman for the Aruban Justice Department, Ann Angela continued to say that their "conclusion was that the statements made by Joran van der Sloot are entirely unbelievable."

Chief Prosecutor in Aruba, Peter Blanken told ABC News, "It's a story that in and of itself does fit in terms of timing. But all the other things that could be investigated, and that means the story about the witnesses [&], the house, the height of the balcony, all those types of things don't add up in Joran van der Sloot's statement."

Holloway's body has never been found.