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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10  (Read 710568 times)
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« Reply #1580 on: June 02, 2010, 04:54:30 PM »

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas?GT1=43001

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Joey T just needs to put his head in a hole and STFU!  there were never any false accusations of murder against Joran - not in 2005, and not now!

STFU Joey T!  you don't have your pal Paulus alive anymore to pull your mafia strings, so just can it, pal!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSS! GO JEN!!
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« Reply #1581 on: June 02, 2010, 04:54:54 PM »

Another Joran friend in Colombia

http://www.facebook.com/friends/?id=503980832&flid=&view=everyone&q=&nt=0&nk=0&s=150&st=0#!/profile.php?id=100000943903238
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« Reply #1582 on: June 02, 2010, 04:55:21 PM »

Maybe now we know what really happened to Natalee. No wonder why Joran wouldn't call for a doctor to help her. There was no seizure, just a brutal murder by a mad man.

Yes. Leads to an entirely different view of what the Kalpoes meant by "I hope they find her. Then they will find that chit all over her."

Very grim picture.

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« Reply #1583 on: June 02, 2010, 04:55:23 PM »

Tacopina says do not judge his client..

GMAB 

Unreal.

There`s a great place in hell ready for Joe.

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« Reply #1584 on: June 02, 2010, 04:56:30 PM »

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas?GT1=43001

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Falsely accused?

How on earth could he be falsely accused when he won't stop confessing?




Exactly Lifesong.... People like Taco who are "stuck on stupid" can't seem to piece that together.
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« Reply #1585 on: June 02, 2010, 04:56:43 PM »

someone on tito lacle's FB says they think it's a set-up.  they are very worried about how this will affect Aruba.
Those idiots will never change. I am just happy that we don't need ale, or aruba "prosecution", or the aruba "media" or the aruban newspapers, or any of those POS's for information on this case. The crap that we all had to put up with. Riddles, lies, lies, arrogance, accusations, lies. RAAAA  I could rip all the skin off all of them!
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Glenda wrote: "aruba's job was not to babysit Beth's daughter. Beth sent her daughter to swim with the sharks, she is responsible for what ever happened to Natalee." = there is no homicide in aruba, only SUICIDE.  Don't go to aruba if you value your life.
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« Reply #1586 on: June 02, 2010, 04:57:48 PM »

http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2010/06/02/joran-van-der-sloot-wanted-for-murder-closure-for-natalee-holloways-mom/

Joran Van Der Sloot Wanted for Murder: Closure for Natalee Holloway’s Mom?

Posted by Lulu and Moxleys Mom on June 2nd, 2010 at 3:40 pm

Joran Van Der Sloot, 22, the Dutch man long suspected in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba just over five years ago, is again wanted by the law.  This time, there is a body and a bloody murder scene — and Van Der Sloot has fled Lima, Peru where the alleged crime was committed. And the evidence surfacing seems pretty damning.

A young woman, 21-year-old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, was spotted leaving a casino with Van Der Sloot and her body, inflicted with stab wounds, was found in his hotel room early this morning.  Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant in connection with the Peruvian murder.

Which makes me think of Beth Holloway Twitty, Natalee’s mother, and all she’s been through.  The disappearance of her daughter, the release of Van Der Sloot in that case, his alleged confession caught on tape with still no resolution, the five-year anniversary of Natalee’s vanishing on May 30 — and now this. Hopefully, this will be the closure the family finally needs, not another series of disappointments and unanswered questions. Let’s hope for justice — and eventually peace if that’s possible — for all the families involved.
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1587 on: June 02, 2010, 04:58:38 PM »

Maybe now we know what really happened to Natalee. No wonder why Joran wouldn't call for a doctor to help her. There was no seizure, just a brutal murder by a mad man.

Yes. Leads to an entirely different view of what the Kalpoes meant by "I hope they find her. Then they will find that chit all over her."

Very grim picture.



Maybe the Kalpoes should speak up to let the whole picture be known about it all... its obvious now who is capable of killing in all of this...
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« Reply #1588 on: June 02, 2010, 05:01:11 PM »


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Authorities need to contact this woman, IMO.  Find out if she was with Joran in peru.....


Miranda Ludique

Hey Lloran! Ke tal? i think we should also see Peru, there's no football but an amazing Reggae club i know.. then we can go fuirther down south to see some good football in Argentina and brazil and such.. ok, let me know what you think! xx chauchau

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Blonde - if you're still here, could you please see this gets passed on?  I know Kerm will on the other end also.

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« Reply #1589 on: June 02, 2010, 05:02:41 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/06/02/peru.murder.case/index.html?hpt=T1


But van der Sloot's attorney, Josephm Tacopin, told CNN it was too early to make any conclusions.


"If history teaches us any lesson from van der Sloot/Holloway case, it's that there have been way too many false facts that have been leaked and rumors that have been proven untrue," Tacopin said. "We need to take a step back. I have not been contacted and the family has not been contacted. Joran has not been asked by anyone to surrender."

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You know CNN`s editors are normally pretty good... but they seem sloppy today.

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« Reply #1590 on: June 02, 2010, 05:03:31 PM »

Thanks blonde!
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« Reply #1591 on: June 02, 2010, 05:05:32 PM »

from my link above -

Ricardo Flores said that police found his daughter's car about 50 blocks from the hotel, and that inside, they found pills like those used in date rape cases.

Similar to the Holloway case, van der Sloot allegedly met at a night spot, in this case, a casino. Ricardo Flores said he did not believe that his daughter knew the Dutch citizen from before.

Both of them speak English, and at the casino they struck up conversation, he said.
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« Reply #1592 on: June 02, 2010, 05:06:05 PM »

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Mentioned by a good friend of mine and something I agree with: Maybe Interpol and/or local officials should check for "other' missing young women along 'his' poker and travel paths...
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« Reply #1593 on: June 02, 2010, 05:06:35 PM »

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas?GT1=43001

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Joey T just needs to put his head in a hole and STFU!  there were never any false accusations of murder against Joran - not in 2005, and not now!

STFU Joey T!  you don't have your pal Paulus alive anymore to pull your mafia strings, so just can it, pal!!!!

I soooooo agree!  
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #1594 on: June 02, 2010, 05:07:52 PM »

Joran van der Sloot is chief suspect in Peruvian woman's murder
Wednesday 02 June 2010

Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, suspected of involvement in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, is the chief suspect in the murder of a young Peruvian woman, the foreign affairs ministry confirmed on Wednesday evening, according to the Telegraaf.

An international arrest warrant has been issued for Van der Sloot, who is suspected of killing Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21. She disappeared on Friday and was found dead on Wednesday morning at a hotel in Lima.

The woman was last seen in the company of Van der Sloot, who was arrested and released twice in connection with the Holloway vanishing, according to local media reports.

Five years

According to local police reports, Flores was found beaten and stabbed in a room booked in van der Sloot's name. ABC news said officials believe she was killed on on Monday. Holloway went missing five years ago on May 30.

Nos tv reports that Van der Sloot travelled to Peru via Colombia on May 14 and took part in a poker tournament last weekend. Van der Sloot is now thought to have been in Chile since Monday, the Telegraaf said.

Van der Sloot has made two alleged confessions about what happened to Holloway at the end of her holiday on the Caribbean island of Aruba where he lived. Earlier this year, he told a German tv show she fell over the balcony of a friend's home.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2010/06/joran_van_der_sloot_chief_susp.php
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« Reply #1595 on: June 02, 2010, 05:08:13 PM »

 From Tacopina's lips to the God's ears for the target stay on Joran's back..............hopefully some justice for Natalee and this new victim will emerge.

I can't imagine all the emotions this brings forth for all of Natalee's family and I pray Anita never sleeps through the night again......

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« Reply #1596 on: June 02, 2010, 05:09:39 PM »

From Tacopina's lips to the God's ears for the target stay on Joran's back..............hopefully some justice for Natalee and this new victim will emerge.

I can't imagine all the emotions this brings forth for all of Natalee's family and I pray Anita never sleeps through the night again......



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« Reply #1597 on: June 02, 2010, 05:12:18 PM »

from my link above -

Ricardo Flores said that police found his daughter's car about 50 blocks from the hotel, and that inside, they found pills like those used in date rape cases.

Similar to the Holloway case, van der Sloot allegedly met at a night spot, in this case, a casino. Ricardo Flores said he did not believe that his daughter knew the Dutch citizen from before.

Both of them speak English, and at the casino they struck up conversation, he said.

Thanks carpe!  That is interesting indeed!

50 blocks away though.  So either Joran dumped the car after he killed her, and either took a cab or had a friend there to drive him.  If it was a friend, I wonder if it was the same person in the black truck who drove him to Chile?
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« Reply #1598 on: June 02, 2010, 05:12:44 PM »

Tacopina cautioned against a rush to judgment.

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before. The fact is he wears a bull's-eye on his back now and he is a quote-unquote usual suspect when it comes to allegations of foul play," Tacopina said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470839/ns/world_news-americas?GT1=43001

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Falsely accused?

How on earth could he be falsely accused when he won't stop confessing?




Good point!!!!
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« Reply #1599 on: June 02, 2010, 05:14:52 PM »

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Mentioned by a good friend of mine and something I agree with: Maybe Interpol and/or local officials should check for "other' missing young women along 'his' poker and travel paths...

I agree!
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