Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10

[SarahD]

That would be hard to believe since Joran so loves the attention.

[thirdstrike]

It kind of reminds me of O.J.  You knew he was guilty, and that someday he'd F'up again and be held to pay.  Seems the same thing is happening with JVDS.  Only thing is, now I think he may have violently murdered Natalee (instead of causing her death accidentally)...

Thirdstrike!!   Good to see you. I am thinking the same thing and it just makes me angrier and angrier!

Good to see U 2 (and not the band) Sunny!! 

It does make me angry as well.  But, it also brings relief in that he'll soon be paying for his sins as he should have been with Natalee...

[SunnyinTX]

wait.

Stephany and Joran came to the hotel at 5 am, correct?

at 8:45 am, two young men also came to Joran's room?

and then 4 hours later Joran takes off.

He sold her.

JMO but I think this is a translation error....everything else I have read said he and Stephany were seen entering the hotel

[Blue Moon]

What's in it for Joe Taco to be Joran's attorney?  Paulus isn't here to pay the bills for a Mobster lawyer. 

[klaasend]

FYI - along with temporarily removing avatars and smilies, it looks like you can't see how many people are in a thread.  These are things we have done so that the site doesn't go down for long due to high traffic.

So WYKS - that's why you couldn't see anyone here

[Cappuccino]

I just want to add that I am thinking of the entire Holloway family as this must be absolutely so difficult almost 5 years to the day, I only hope when the catch the B'turd they can rest a bit knowing they were right all along.   If I were Beth, I wouldnt mind at all pulling the switch.

Attorney Joseph Tacopina (appearing via phone live on JVM)  needs to grow a conscious, Im sick of hearing him defend this monster.   "If its true and it holds up in court."   blah blah blah...how do these type of defense attorneys sleep at night!  GRRRRRR

[thirdstrike]

Where is everyone?  Just posted this in the other thread:

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Scrambling for a link...

This from twitter:

moniquemeesie

BREAKING * Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide.

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still looking for a link to confirm this info.  this is all i can find so far.  just the link, not the whole thing.


   Peru CapSEO
       - 2:57pm

      Peru CapSEO est un réseau social mettant en relation les professionnels du ... Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide. ...
      community.capseo.com/twitter_timeline_public.php?q=Peru

http://www.google.com/search?q=Joran+van+der+Sloot+found+dead+near+Peru+border+after+committing+suicide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Nice and neat!  I would NOTY have a problem at all if this story was true...

[Cappuccino]

FYI - along with temporarily removing avatars and smilies, it looks like you can't see how many people are in a thread.  These are things we have done so that the site doesn't go down for long due to high traffic.

So WYKS - that's why you couldn't see anyone here

Smart move, as animated graphics do add to slowing down a site, it will help on heavy traffic days.

[Lifesong]

wait.

Stephany and Joran came to the hotel at 5 am, correct?

at 8:45 am, two young men also came to Joran's room?

and then 4 hours later Joran takes off.

He sold her.

JMO but I think this is a translation error....everything else I have read said he and Stephany were seen entering the hotel

Agree.  It probably referred to two young people and the gender was translated incorrectly.

JMO

[Nut44x4]

Taco got so excited he sounded like his nuts were being choked ... hehehe

[seemeatthebeach]

Joran Van Der alleged of twin murder case: Peru girl and Holloway murder

Joran Van Der Sloot, who has been the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is now wanted for the murder of another woman, Stephany Flores Ramirez.

JORAN VAN Der Sloot, who has been the prime suspect in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is now wanted for the murder of another woman, Stephany Flores Ramirez. Police said, the body of the Stephany Ramirez Flores, 21, was found Tuesday May 30, in a hotel Miraflores district in Lima, Peru.

Joran Van Der Sloot and Ms Ramírez were reported to visit a casino before the murder, and security camera images reputedly showed the couple leaving it together. The police have found Van der Sloot’s footprints from the hotel. According to Peruvian immigration officials, Van der Sloot entered Peru on May 14 from Colombia and left the country Monday at the border crossing with Chile.

The 22-year-old man, Joran Van Der Sloot, the Dutch national who was twice arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of an 18-year-old American student Holloway, who went missing in Aruba five years ago this week.

A spokeswoman for the office of the prosecutor in Aruba, confirmed that an Interpol international arrest warrant issued against Joran Van Der Sloot in connection with the murder of 21-year-old Peru girl. The victim, Stephany Flores, was the daughter of a local businessman and race car driver named Ricardo Flores.

http://www.merinews.com/article/joran-van-der-alleged-of-twin-murder-case-peru-girl-and-holloway-murder/15819993.shtml

I'm thinking he rented a vehicle. Joran IMO would probably rent an ATV or similar. Most have GPS's. Hopefully they can locate him this way if car has a real time tracking device of some sort.

[San]

Jane Valez Mitchell

Father is saying she may have been drugged and stabbed multiple times.

They left in her car and found samples of pills that they drug people.

TJ Ward said the drugs that were put in Natalee's drink were the same ones use in this new murder.  He has information that Natalee was drugged.

Joe Tacopina said obviously he doesn't know anything about the facts.  He said step back and let the investigation take it's course.

Stacy Honowitz - said there are so many good facts that we are listening to right now.  The last thing they are waiting for is the DNA.

Joe and Jane are arguing.  She said you don't need a video of someone killing her to say he murdered her.  Joe said who is saying Joran ran.  How do you know.

[Nut44x4]

Renfro up next..... see how she spins this one.

[SunnyinTX]

wait.

Stephany and Joran came to the hotel at 5 am, correct?

at 8:45 am, two young men also came to Joran's room?

and then 4 hours later Joran takes off.

He sold her.

JMO but I think this is a translation error....everything else I have read said he and Stephany were seen entering the hotel

Oh chit!  I reread it and the time difference.....I am getting confused with the time line so I am gonna hush!!

[Curly]

Where is everyone?  Just posted this in the other thread:

~~~

Scrambling for a link...

This from twitter:

moniquemeesie

BREAKING * Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide.

~~~

still looking for a link to confirm this info.  this is all i can find so far.  just the link, not the whole thing.


   Peru CapSEO
       - 2:57pm

      Peru CapSEO est un réseau social mettant en relation les professionnels du ... Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide. ...
      community.capseo.com/twitter_timeline_public.php?q=Peru

http://www.google.com/search?q=Joran+van+der+Sloot+found+dead+near+Peru+border+after+committing+suicide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Coward if it is true.

[Cappuccino]

Where is everyone?  Just posted this in the other thread:

~~~

Scrambling for a link...

This from twitter:

moniquemeesie

BREAKING * Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide.

~~~

still looking for a link to confirm this info.  this is all i can find so far.  just the link, not the whole thing.


   Peru CapSEO
       - 2:57pm

      Peru CapSEO est un réseau social mettant en relation les professionnels du ... Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide. ...
      community.capseo.com/twitter_timeline_public.php?q=Peru

http://www.google.com/search?q=Joran+van+der+Sloot+found+dead+near+Peru+border+after+committing+suicide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

If that were true it wouldnt shock me one bit that he would do something that cowardly.   Either way he's going to H E double hockey sticks with his father & anyone else that helped him with his heinous crimes.    Anita, you're next (sorry thats just the way I feel & Im too blunt too sugar coat it).

[sharon]

I am reading back -- many pages -- but had to join in

I can almost taste justice

My sympathies for the family of this poor girl who did not have to die.

Valentjin -- it's time to tell what you know.

Freddy -- you know the truth. It's time to tell what you know

Jamie aka Beto -- it's time

Andres Santos -- your time is up

Steve Croes -- It's time

Deepak & Satish -- start wearing pants without pockets.


JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY

[seemeatthebeach]

Taco got so excited he sounded like his nuts were being choked ... hehehe

He disgusts me.....I hit my mute button as soon as I hear the first sound of his voice. He never has anything of importance to say anyhow.

[SunnyinTX]

Where is everyone?  Just posted this in the other thread:

~~~

Scrambling for a link...

This from twitter:

moniquemeesie

BREAKING * Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide.

~~~

still looking for a link to confirm this info.  this is all i can find so far.  just the link, not the whole thing.


   Peru CapSEO
       - 2:57pm

      Peru CapSEO est un réseau social mettant en relation les professionnels du ... Joran van der Sloot found dead near Peru border after committing suicide. ...
      community.capseo.com/twitter_timeline_public.php?q=Peru

http://www.google.com/search?q=Joran+van+der+Sloot+found+dead+near+Peru+border+after+committing+suicide&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

This would be too good to be true....I don't think he has the balls to off himself.....now someone else might have!!  Thanks Wyks

[Anna]

I gotta see the actual corpse of Joran plus DNA to ever believe he committed suicide.

Since Aruba loves photos of the deceased, they should have no problem with that.