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« Reply #920 on: May 20, 2010, 08:29:09 AM »

I think that's Jeff Spiccolli on guitar. 

    Duuuude!!!
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« Reply #921 on: May 20, 2010, 08:32:47 AM »

TxMom - thank you for all your digging! 
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« Reply #922 on: May 20, 2010, 09:15:44 AM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9306691&id=175098170525#!/photo.php?pid=9306694&id=175098170525&fbid=294723700525

Klaas, when you have time would you see if you can tell what it says on the certificate?

I think it may say Ben King...

I tried, but didn't have much luck.

TIA   



If it is maybe he's been using some Grecian Formula.    Monkey Devil!

I went and copied the original photo in Facebook myself to see if I could get a clearer picture of the award.  This is what I got:



It became much clearer to me after I adjusted the contrast  Monkey Devil!

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« Reply #923 on: May 20, 2010, 01:11:49 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9306691&id=175098170525#!/photo.php?pid=9306694&id=175098170525&fbid=294723700525

Klaas, when you have time would you see if you can tell what it says on the certificate?

I think it may say Ben King...

I tried, but didn't have much luck.

TIA   



If it is maybe he's been using some Grecian Formula.    Monkey Devil!

I went and copied the original photo in Facebook myself to see if I could get a clearer picture of the award.  This is what I got:



It became much clearer to me after I adjusted the contrast  Monkey Devil!





Much clearer, Love it.
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« Reply #924 on: May 20, 2010, 01:54:28 PM »

On a more serious note : 

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« Reply #925 on: May 20, 2010, 02:10:31 PM »

When my eyes are wide open ... when they are squitted ... when I close the right eye ... when I closed the other ... when I donned my spec ... I could not tell.

When I leaned to the left ... I leaned to the right ... when I plastered my face against the screen  ... when I leaned back ... when I whistled ... when I stuck out my tongue ...  when I stood on the right leg ... when I stood on the left leg  ... I could not tell.

I must be getting old.

 

Have a good day all.

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« Reply #926 on: May 20, 2010, 02:38:47 PM »


 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #927 on: May 20, 2010, 02:39:53 PM »

TxMom - thank you for all your digging! 

YW jen!   
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #928 on: May 20, 2010, 02:40:40 PM »

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9306691&id=175098170525#!/photo.php?pid=9306694&id=175098170525&fbid=294723700525

Klaas, when you have time would you see if you can tell what it says on the certificate?

I think it may say Ben King...

I tried, but didn't have much luck.

TIA   



If it is maybe he's been using some Grecian Formula.    Monkey Devil!

I went and copied the original photo in Facebook myself to see if I could get a clearer picture of the award.  This is what I got:



It became much clearer to me after I adjusted the contrast  Monkey Devil!



 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #929 on: May 20, 2010, 03:09:23 PM »

On a more serious note : 



That's what I think it says. 

JMO

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #930 on: May 20, 2010, 03:24:54 PM »

I knew it...

http://www.amigoe.com/artman/publish/artikel_72752.php

Google translation:

New car division Integral Professional Training

May 20, 2010, 14:34 (GMT -04:00)

Email this article   
Print this article 


 

ORANGE CITY - The Minister of Education and Justice Arthur Dower (AVP) this morning handed a new bus for the Department of Integrated Professional Training (IBT) to acting chief of police, Adolfo Richardson.

This happened at Garage Cordia. The car was financed by Fondo Desaroyo Aruba (FDA). The Minister welcomed the new acquisition. "I am pleased with the quality of the new car. I obviously want the best for the employees. Good facilities staff will provide content.

"Spokesman John Larmonie also is pleased with the new car. "People complained for years about the work in the sun without air conditioning. They have this car really deserves. "By handing over the seats of the car wrapped in plastic. There will be carpet in the car, so the materials are transported on the bus does not go slipping and sliding.

 
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #931 on: May 20, 2010, 03:25:51 PM »

A COSMIC WTF

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There were three ROV dive videos of the trap.

Video 2: Dec 30th - ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap. This is the dive Dateline and Tim Miller witnessed

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2668.msg360047;topicseen#msg360047


ROV Images

Video 2 - December 30, 2007





Images: Kyle Kingman


Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman
- I took the picture of Natalee standing on the beach and cropped, rotated, and scaled the image to correlate with the trap body form.  Notice the end of the skirt is an identical match to the 90 degree angle in the sand.  The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.

Kyle Kingman:  In my opinion, the blue fabric is quite possibly Natalee's skirt. The divers found the denim where I suggested a week earlier (Dec 29th) to Tim Miller that there was likely Natalee's denim skirt under the sand.  Also in my opinion, the deni-like fabric is a match in terms of color, quantity, and structure to Natalee's skirt. It's not a lot of denim folded in the bag, but then again her skirt was rather small.

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg607810;topicseen#msg607810
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4328.msg607814;topicseen#msg607814
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« Reply #932 on: May 20, 2010, 03:33:24 PM »

I DON'T TRUST HIM!

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:
  I asked Tim Miller what he thought of Richardson and he said that he didn't trust him at all. Tim wasn't involved with the transfer of evidence, neither was any of us on the Persistence.

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7363.msg1134653;topicseen#msg1134653

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« Reply #933 on: May 20, 2010, 04:38:39 PM »

Private Eye

You understood perfectly.

Janet

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« Reply #499 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:50 AM »


If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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« Reply #934 on: May 20, 2010, 06:28:05 PM »

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:TE78lP-gsOgJ:www.24ora.com/content/view/10761/27/+%22Joeri+King%22%2BAruba&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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resultadonan by skim board skim fest 2009

wednesday, 29 july 2009 - 11:00

diadomingo ultimo 26 july 2009 was have one exitoso competencia by skim board skim fest 2009 at punta brabo (manchebo- aruba beach club). click read more before more info...

was have one publico enough big y anima y owing to apoya all participante. was have 4 categoria open class beginners intermediate advanced bungee the year here we owing to introduci the first competencia by bungee here at aruba cual was uno complete by speed y action.

the skimmers (participantenan) owing to demostra they habilidad y flexibilidad on they skim board. before motiva the hubentud owing to eligi the jongest skimmer cual owing to resulta in person by victor goldshine that barely have 9 year by edad.

also we owing to eligi we miss skim 2009 cual owing to remain in person by srta. manuela van borstelen. manuela owing to competi strongly cu the cabayeronan. pabien at all the ganadornan. you are the best, good job!

one thanks is bay at one y all cu owing to coopera y sostene the sport by skim, specialmente at all we sponsor, helpernan y media by comunicacion cu owing to aporta at sport.

here is follow the resultadonan:

results beginner

1. bart van haren
2. clint goilo (cur)
3. moises ramirez

intermediate

1. joeri king
2. ithel maduro
3. jason semeleer

advanced

1. jason peterson
2. sergio spaans
3. manuela van borselen

(miss skim 2009) bungee

1. jason peterson
2. jonathan romero
3. dennis tromp

jongest skimmer> victor goldshine
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #935 on: May 20, 2010, 07:03:51 PM »

Private Eye

You understood perfectly.

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If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort. The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy. I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245
  This just angers me to no end.  What was in the cage Aruba?  Whose bones and DNA were in the cage anyhow??  Does everyone get "played" in Aruba?  We care, we pray, we donated, we want answers. 
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« Reply #936 on: May 20, 2010, 07:39:14 PM »

Private Eye

You understood perfectly.

Janet

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« Reply #499 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:50 AM »


If I understood Kyle correctly, and that would be that the Arubans retrieved and possessed all finds, not sharing anything with the crew, then that effort was a waste of time and effort.  The only thing it could have accomplished was to locate additional evidence for the Arubans to destroy.  I am not sure if that was the protocol out of Aruba's waters though. The effort was superb, but the game was fixed.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2769.msg372245;topicseen#msg372245

  This just angers me to no end.  What was in the cage Aruba?  Whose bones and DNA were in the cage anyhow??  Does everyone get "played" in Aruba?  We care, we pray, we donated, we want answers. 

Sharon/TX

I agree.  How many would have donated their hard-earned buck to the cause if the realization was that any find by the Persistence which appeared to be case related would be recovered by the enemy unchallenged ... the enemy who has denied Natalee Holloway justice since May 30, 2005?  How many would have chosen to have been a participant in furthering the Aruban coverup that has put Natalee's family through a perpetual H--- on Earth.

 

It is so important that donors are good stewards.  Prior to freely giving to any charity from the heart ... common sense must also be applied.  The hard questions regarding accountability must be asked.

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Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:
The Persistence had no divers on the 7th. Tim Trahan was our diver on the 30th-Dec, but he was out of the country at the time. The Aruban divers were on the police boat, dove from their boat, and returned to their boat.

Kyle Kingman: They were immediately whisked away by the Aruban police and not seen of again by us on the 7th.

Kyle Kingman: I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. ...

Kyle Kingman: John is not a believer in the trap. He took ALE's word as gospel that it wasn't case related, yet never studied the videos or bothered to inquire further. He had plans on doing business with Aruba and in S. America and he didn't want to hurt any feelings by talks hinting at lack of complete trust and friendship. I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence.

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« Reply #937 on: May 20, 2010, 08:33:03 PM »

San just posted an OLD school photo of herself in Musings 
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« Reply #938 on: May 21, 2010, 12:46:25 AM »

 an angelic monkey

Natalee's Candles

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« Reply #939 on: May 21, 2010, 01:24:56 AM »


Thanks 2NJ!   
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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