Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10

[billb's daughter]

Is this really necessary?

It was my opinion, whether or not you consider it necessary.

Is it really necessary for you to question any post I make? 

MHOO Dear....

Yeah, now that really makes sense.  Not.   

TexasMom....
Shouldn't be hard to understand....
MHOO = my humble opinion only.......Just like your opinion....
Point being.....why do you feel it necessary to  when you don't agree with Janet?
Last I noticed...Janet is on the side of Justice for Natalee...
Or do I have that wrong?
Your opinion please....

[texasmom]

Is this really necessary?

It was my opinion, whether or not you consider it necessary.

Is it really necessary for you to question any post I make? 

 

If one wants to engage in conversations with those on other forums, wouldn't it make more sense to join those forums and conduct them directly?

That thought did cross my mind too Anna, if an email wouldn't suffice. 

[billb's daughter]

FWIW...never been on any other forum.....
I'm here seeking Justice for Natalee and info pertaining to same.....SM is that place....

[billb's daughter]

Good Night again Good Monkeys......

[texasmom]

Is this really necessary?

It was my opinion, whether or not you consider it necessary.

Is it really necessary for you to question any post I make? 

MHOO Dear....

Yeah, now that really makes sense.  Not.   

TexasMom....
Shouldn't be hard to understand....
MHOO = my humble opinion only.......Just like your opinion....
Point being.....why do you feel it necessary to  when you don't agree with Janet?
Last I noticed...Janet is on the side of Justice for Natalee...
Or do I have that wrong?
Your opinion please....

So you "have an opinion" as to if a post I make is necessary or not...when you don't seem to find it necessary to express an opinion about much of anything these days?

My suggestion to you would be to scroll on by my posts billb.

I will express my opinion with no consideration of whether or not I think you will consider my opinion necessary or not.

My response was not to YOU, and I think subsequent posts of mine have explained my response adequately.

Why you think I should answer to you concerning anything about Janet is beyond me too!

That's all I have to say on the subject.  If you still have a problem, please take it up with Klaas or one of the other mods and I'll be happy to discuss it with them.

[texasmom]

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googlebots?

[texasmom]

Truth and Justice for Natalee!

[Bearlyhere]

http://curacao.usconsulate.gov/uploads/images/nXyIwfyZCXXtdMpu8FGccA/WEEKLY_News.pdf

News Items and Public Crime Summary for Week Ending May 8, 2010

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CURAÇAO
Crime April 29 – May 6
On April 29 a woman was beaten by her former husband in Rio Canario. The irate man also fired a random shot with a handgun. No injuries were reported. On May 2 a vehicle occupant fired several shots near Julian. There were no injuries (Extra).

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“The Weekly Press Summary is a compilation of stories running in the Netherlands Antilles and Aruban press that is intended to alert readers about items of interest to them. There is no interpretation or verification of the facts contained therein."

BBM

Wth do they mean, no injuries?  Don't injuries from being beaten count or is it okay to beat on women there?

 

[billb's daughter]

Is this really necessary?

It was my opinion, whether or not you consider it necessary.

Is it really necessary for you to question any post I make? 

MHOO Dear....

Yeah, now that really makes sense.  Not.   

TexasMom....
Shouldn't be hard to understand....
MHOO = my humble opinion only.......Just like your opinion....
Point being.....why do you feel it necessary to  when you don't agree with Janet?
Last I noticed...Janet is on the side of Justice for Natalee...
Or do I have that wrong?
Your opinion please....

So you "have an opinion" as to if a post I make is necessary or not...when you don't seem to find it necessary to express an opinion about much of anything these days?
Today I expressed my opinion...does that not count?

My suggestion to you would be to scroll on by my posts billb.
I proposed this also...good point.

I will express my opinion with no consideration of whether or not I think you will consider my opinion necessary or not.
OK

My response was not to YOU, and I think subsequent posts of mine have explained my response adequately.
Your response was in a forum.....you should expect responses...

Why you think I should answer to you concerning anything about Janet is beyond me too!
Me too...Thanks for your response anyway...

That's all I have to say on the subject.  If you still have a problem, please take it up with Klaas or one of the other mods and I'll be happy to discuss it with them.

It's a FORUM....responses to posts is what drives a forum.....Duh....

[Bearlyhere]

Is this really necessary?

It was my opinion, whether or not you consider it necessary.

Is it really necessary for you to question any post I make? 

MHOO Dear....

Yeah, now that really makes sense.  Not.   

TexasMom....
Shouldn't be hard to understand....
MHOO = my humble opinion only.......Just like your opinion....
Point being.....why do you feel it necessary to  when you don't agree with Janet?
Last I noticed...Janet is on the side of Justice for Natalee...
Or do I have that wrong?
Your opinion please....

So you "have an opinion" as to if a post I make is necessary or not...when you don't seem to find it necessary to express an opinion about much of anything these days?
Today I expressed my opinion...does that not count?

My suggestion to you would be to scroll on by my posts billb.
I proposed this also...good point.

I will express my opinion with no consideration of whether or not I think you will consider my opinion necessary or not.
OK

My response was not to YOU, and I think subsequent posts of mine have explained my response adequately.
Your response was in a forum.....you should expect responses...

Why you think I should answer to you concerning anything about Janet is beyond me too!
Me too...Thanks for your response anyway...

That's all I have to say on the subject.  If you still have a problem, please take it up with Klaas or one of the other mods and I'll be happy to discuss it with them.

It's a FORUM....responses to posts is what drives a forum.....Duh....

Please do not be condescending to other monkeys.  Is "Duh" really mature or necessary when addressing an adult with an opinion?  There is a big difference between responding to a post and judging a person's post.  All are welcome to their opinion and a little respect just for having the guts to post it.  We each may have a piece of the puzzle that will help bring Natalee home.  I hate to see someone who has a good idea, that may even inspire others to post their good ideas, be afraid to post because someone here may not be able to refrain from rating posts and posters.  This is not the Olympics.

[2NJSons_Mom]

 

Natalee's Candles

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5700.0


None of us had any idea that we'd still be here for Natalee nearing the 5 year mark, but we are. 

[Tamikosmom]

Prior to submitting his first post to the SM forum on January 18, 2008 ... Caps had submitted comments to the SM Front Page under the nic ANONIMO.  It makes sense if Anonimo is part of the misinformation campaign to prevent justice from prevailing for Natalee Holloway ... then so is CAPSLOCKWIZARD.

Janet

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Now Aruban Prosecutor Says “Holloway case in ‘new phase” … New Phase of not Investigating
Posted December 22, 2007 by Scared Monkeys

Comments

22.Anonimo on December 22nd, 2007 11:17 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen;

I have been looking for some place where I could leave some of my comments without leaving my name. We still have people in Alabama who will burn things down if things don’t go their way.

Without using any four letter words I can assure all of you have some valid points in expressing what you think happened. There are a lot of people out here who feel the same way. There are still a lot of questions which need answering.

I can assure you that the FBI is aware of all your concerns. They are looking at it from every angle. What happened in Aruba was supposed to have stayed in Aruba. Then the cameras showed up! This was when Beth knew they were in trouble. Her words, not mine.

As soon as the FBI can make an Alabama connection the case will become a federal case. You did see how fast the Investigators up here put the finger on those three college boys who burned down those churches didn’t you?

Well, I waited 16 months to find something which I can confide my suspicions in.

There were over a million comments posted on the Internet during this period. I feel that someone with a computer and a little knowledge about the teen who vanished in Aruba will also confide in this web site as long as they can be sure their idenity is safe.

Some other school mates who either saw, or heard, something about what happened down there.

I believe this enough that I am willing to stick my neck out and start posting some of the things I know about the case which have not been brought up on any of those cable news networks.

But first ask your self this question ? why is Beth and Jug no longer together. I, too, have asked that question. I think Jug butted out when Beth went running all over the country promoting this International Safe Travels thing. She lost a lot of her support here.

Some things are a matter of public record. Marrages, divorces, and ownership of property. Do you know what a prenup. is?

The reason why it was kept in Aruba is because as long as it stays down there the FBI can’t toutch it. If a connection with the USA can be made, then it will become a federal case.

The mother took the daughter to some meetings on how to behave in a foreign country. Then she dropped her off at a friend’s house for the flight to Aruba.

Then the socer mom took off with two friends to a lake house in Hot Springs, AK 5 hours north of B’Ham! And for three days no contact with Aruba. Then for 4-5 hours after the teen did not show up for muster the mother gets a call from one of the adults on the trip.
Question. How is it possible that the mom can make the same day flight to Aruba while on the same day the kid was missing? How quick she was to get everything together, travel 5 hour from Hot Spring, pack, make a sign, and flight to Aruba.
Question. When she arrived in Aruba, what Written Sign She was holding in Her Hand?
“MY DAUGHTER WAS KIDNAPED SIGN”
How did she know she was kiddnaped…?? Answer these questions please.

If the mother had of wanted to lollygag around a pool some where she could have gone on the trip too if she was that concerned about the safety of her daughter.

Two of the girl’s step cousins were on the same trip. Don’t you think they were the designated drivers? Or the look outs? One even fingered Joran as having played cards with some of the teens from MB.

Has any one of you ever been on a beach alone with a young woman? Have you ever tried to get a drunk to do something they didn’t want to? Then join the Army and travel a little. You’ll see.

This is all for now. If I get some response then I will start asking the hard questions the cable news didn’t ask. You can ask some good questions too. The good ones will be forwarded to the FBI in Alabama who are working on it too.

Nathalie Price $1000.000.00 and second price 250.000.00 to tell something

A Long time has past and the poor people in Aruba never came to claim the price… Aruban, Dutch, American, Surinam living in an expensive island where 50.000 are over 50 yr old and where 25000 are of school age and 50000 65yr and up on pension and none of them will like to win the lottery. Ask yourself why?

Is it that because they have to much casino and 1,000.000.00 will not make a difference or is it that they have done so much money laundry that they do not need a million or so to boost up their portfolio or is it that they are so corrupt that they do not see a Million Dollar…???????

The reason they are not coming forward is that no-one has seen or hear anything
or is it that they are afraid of the 3 alleged perps that have hurts their island so much that they are afraid of them?,

or is it this question

IS IT THAT THIS IS ALL A FABRICATION FOR AN INSURANCE CLAIM AFTER 5 OR 10 YEARS?
Where the players are all connected and waiting for time to tick away to 2010.


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41. Anonimo on December 23rd, 2007 1:48 am

I am a Logic Professor and I am telling you all that from both side of the coin there is events that do not compute and follows normal nature course. From the 3 kids and the father there is defently manipolation of the Law Book. no doubt about that. But from the Famaly and the account of what was going on in Aruba, This women never show a tear for her daughter in Aruba. It all on tape and beeing research/observed ask we speak but there is also a lot of more info comming forth now that are beein looked at in terms of logic events… we know that for every case there is a play book and it beeing re-examined … what makes it more interesting is that the bank where the funds was is now merge and no one seems to know where it is… so be patient and we shall see.

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2007/12/22/now-aruban-prosecutor-says-holloway-case-in-new-phase-new-phase-of-not-investigating/

[Tamikosmom]

klaasend
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #808 3/17/09am -
« Reply #209 on: March 17, 2009, 11:24:02 PM »

I'm sick.  Yes, I beleive this person is Capslock:

Anonimo
Submitted on 2007/12/23 at 1:48am
I am a Logic Professor and I am telling you all that from both side of the coin there is events that do not compute and follows normal nature course. From the 3 kids and the father there is defently manipolation of the Law Book. no doubt about that. But from the Famaly and the account of what was going on in Aruba, This women never show a tear for her daughter in Aruba. It all on tape and beeing research/observed ask we speak but there is also a lot of more info comming forth now that are beein looked at in terms of logic events… we know that for every case there is a play book and it beeing re-examined … what makes it more interesting is that the bank where the funds. .....

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4697.msg724765;topicseen#msg724765

[Tamikosmom]

Topic: ANONIMO AKA CAPSLOCKWIZARD

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4722.0

[Tamikosmom]

Thank you again Kermit going out on that limb and exposing Kyle Kingman's own words regarding his observations encompassing all aspects encompassing the trap/cage.
 
 

Janet

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jen3560
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #804 3/1/09 -
« Reply #486 on: March 04, 2009, 05:18:48 PM »

I was just sent screen shots of posts from BFN discussing all of this.

All I can say is how utterly stunned I am at some of the posts made there.

I have a few questions to pose to those who have taken the stance that people here are undermining and "slandering" the members/participants in the Persistence's trip to Aruba.

First and foremost - I believe you are ALL either purposefully ignoring one simple fact, or have simply missed it - Kyle Kingman himself is the person who said all of these things about the activities surrounding the cage find.

No one else.

Kyle Kingman - a member of the Persistence crew, who was present for all that occurred.



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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4617.msg702870;topicseen#msg702870

[Tamikosmom]

jen3560
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #804 3/1/09 -
« Reply #486 on: March 04, 2009, 05:18:48 PM »

I was just sent screen shots of posts from BFN discussing all of this.

All I can say is how utterly stunned I am at some of the posts made there.

I have a few questions to pose to those who have taken the stance that people here are undermining and "slandering" the members/participants in the Persistence's trip to Aruba.

First and foremost - I believe you are ALL either purposefully ignoring one simple fact, or have simply missed it - Kyle Kingman himself is the person who said all of these things about the activities surrounding the cage find.

No one else.

Kyle Kingman - a member of the Persistence crew, who was present for all that occurred.


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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4617.msg702870;topicseen#msg702870

Something akin to the above post ... challenging negativity posting on other forums about Scared Monkeys in regards to the Natalee Holloway case is where it has been at since 2005.

Think about all our responses when Kermit's integrety was being despicably  underminded in 2009.

I could bring forward a very recent post by our own administrator.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Yep...
And nobody on that boat stood up for Natalee.  Well, I guess Tim Miller may have and it got him thrown off the boat.  We really don't know any more than that, because no one else will talk about it.
Nobody stood up then...and nobody has come forward to date...
Natalee deserves better......

 

Kyle Kingman did before he didn't.

Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Yep...
And nobody on that boat stood up for Natalee.  Well, I guess Tim Miller may have and it got him thrown off the boat.  We really don't know any more than that, because no one else will talk about it.
Nobody stood up then...and nobody has come forward to date...
Natalee deserves better......

 

However ... credit where credit is due ... Kyle Kingman did attempt to make a stand for Natalee and her family when he challenged John Silvetti, Hans Mos and Dolph Richards in regards to the handling of the trap and its contents.

Janet

Kyle Kingman - In His Own Words

Kyle Kingman:  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.

Kyle Kingman:  Aruban divers deemed the cage to be not case related, and therefore Aruba had no interest in it.  At that point, I made the statement to all on board that we do have an interest and that we would recover the cage ourselves.  That is when Mos said they would dive on it but it would take 1 -2 weeks for a forensics team to arrive and that he would let Persistence know.

Kyle Kingman:  The FBI said they needed an invitation. I brought it up to Mos and Richardson and they were talking as if it were a possibility along with a Dutch forensic team. Mos said it would take about 10-14 days to have a Dutch forensic team on site. Never heard another word about it.

Kermit - Scared Monkeys

[jen3560]

Lifesong - great to see you!  Have you had any type of responses?

TxMom - Thank you for all you continue to do in this forum.  I may not be able to post often anymore, but I do read (and try and retain, LOL) all that is posted.

2NJ - Thank you for the reminders!  It seems lately that is all I have time to do for Natalee 

Bearly - THANK YOU for your assistance here!

 

[jen3560]

Klaas - thank you for the court status updates.  And a big thank you to our anony Monkey for allowing us that access.