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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #832 4/22/10 - 6/2/10  (Read 170766 times)
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« Reply #1900 on: June 02, 2010, 08:54:56 PM »

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« Reply #1901 on: June 02, 2010, 08:55:32 PM »

NEW FRONT PAGE POST:

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2010/06/02/aruba-lied-and-another-girl-died-joran-van-der-sloot-suspect-in-the-murder-of-stephany-tatiana-flores-ramirez-in-peru-joran-on-the-run/

Aruba Lied and another Girl Died Joran Van der Sloot Suspect in the Murder of Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez in Peru Joran on the Run
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« Reply #1902 on: June 02, 2010, 08:56:18 PM »

Citizen Dutchman paid 1.780 soles Ica three drivers to take him to Arica on Sunday

Ica (Peru.com) .- Ica Three drivers moved to Arica revealed that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is accused of killing the young Stephany Flores (21), daughter of racer Ricardo Flores Chipoco, in a hotel in Miraflores .
 
This was reported to RPP Noticias Carlos Alberto Uribe, who said that the foreigner asked to take Nazca, where he hired two drivers to take him to Chile.

 
"De Nazca to Tacna paid 500 billion suns and Tacna to Arica gave us 280 suns. We learned who he was by the news," the driver told the radio station.
 
It should be noted that Van der Sloot smoked constantly and will only sleep on the trip but all I got to tell was that he lived in Aruba.
 
"I was in shorts and white sneakers," said one of the Aparcana Pisconte, those employed by the Dutchman to take you to Arica.
 
It emerged that Van der Sloot planned to travel to Cuzco on Sunday, but argued that he "spent the bus" and mysteriously changed its route south of the continent.

http://www.peru.com/noticias/sgc/portada/2010/06/02/detalle100068.aspx
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« Reply #1903 on: June 02, 2010, 08:56:41 PM »

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« Reply #1904 on: June 02, 2010, 08:57:06 PM »

The story has a prominate place on Gretawire. I'm sure she'll be covering it tonight.
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« Reply #1905 on: June 02, 2010, 08:58:09 PM »

Dutchman tries to communicate with his lawyer after hearing news of the murder of the daughter of businessman Ricardo Flores

Lima (Peru.com) .- The Dutchman Joran van der Sloot is reported by others with his lawyer after being accused of killing Stephany Flores (21), daughter of businessman and racer known Ricardo Flores.
 
This was reported to RPP's own counsel, Josephine Tacopina, who know where to find his client, but said he did not have any restrictions to travel anywhere in the world.
 
"The mail seems to be a third person who incidentally has contacted me and told me what my sponsor is trying to contact me to get legal advice," he said.
He noted it would be "difficult" to defend van der Sloot in our country for the crime of Flores Ramirez, known as Peruvian law.

http://www.peru.com/noticias/portada20100602/100065/Holandes-trata-de-comunicarse-con-su-abogado-tras-conocer-noticia-del-crimen-de-la-hija-del-empresario-Ricardo-Flores

HAHAHAHAHAhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa   , Josephine Tacopina  HAHAHAHaaaaaaa
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« Reply #1906 on: June 02, 2010, 08:58:37 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!
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« Reply #1907 on: June 02, 2010, 09:00:12 PM »

on Sunday,

Like so many here I was thinking about Natalee, but I do that every day.

I was gonna post my normal - we miss you Nat and we're not givin' up.

But I said that so many times, said it almost everyday since this horror happened.

I just reflected.

I thought about the last five years.

And I read that someone somewhere died of cancer, and became and angel in Heaven.

and someone's heart was broken.

And I got a tear in my eye over someone I didn't even know. Someone so young and her kids will miss her. Terribly.

And then I thought about Beth and all the messages from the Monks and Monkettes that love her and Natalee.

So I reflected.

And in my heart - I KNEW something was wrong somewhere. Not just what happened to Natalee.

But something new.

And I new from some of the messages - especially - Keep the Faith's.

The End was near.

I finally felt it.

I knew it.

And it's been a long five years.

I didn't know if I could make it the whole way at times.

I was wondering if I could handle all the heart break of arrested and released - over and over.

I know many felt the same way.

It's been a long five years.

In my heart - I knew Joran would kill someone again, and I often posted about "future crimes".

I knew in my heart that God's plan was not to let Natalee or Stephany suffer - or any of his victims.

However, I knew there would always be another murder.

And that murder would put him away forever.

It's been a long five years.

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To all the great friends we've all made - you will always have my respect and admiration. It goes without saying, but I will mention it to make it known and acknowledge it.

We have been thru so much while awaiting the day when Joran would be exposed for the spawn of hell he truly is.

To all those that took so much abuse and still got up in the morning - you are a big part of God's plan and you should feel honored. You know who you are. God chooses some people for truly wonderful, yet trying endeavors.

To all those that doubted, obfuscated, concealed and acted as stealth agents, you were exposed and you should hang your heads in shame, but I know that you all have no shame. And you know who you are and so do we.

It's been a long five years, but the end of the road is in sight. Finally.

Prayers for Stephany and Natalee.

Rob I love your heart!!
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« Reply #1908 on: June 02, 2010, 09:03:57 PM »

I've noticed some are still calling Joran a "boy".  GMAB!

http://www.examiner.com/x-51056-Atlanta-Pop-Culture-Examiner~y2010m6d2-Joran-update-Interpol-arrest-warrant-issued-Joran-van-der-Sloot-fled-bloody-crime-scene
Joran update: Interpol arrest warrant issued, Joran van der Sloot fled bloody crime scene
June 2, 2010

An arrest warrant has been issued for Joran van der Sloot in the stabbing murder of a Peruvian 22-year-old woman named Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, according to MSNBC.

Joran van der Sloot was last seen in the company of the victim on Sunday, May 30, by both a hotel guest and an employee at the facility. Joran had been in the company of Stephany Flores the night before, Saturday, May 29, as well. The two were video taped in the Atlantic City Casino.

Stabbing murder on Sunday

According to Criminal police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia, an international arrest warrant has been issued by Interpol since the suspect fled Peru supposedly enroute for Chile after the murder occurred on Sunday, May 30.

Joran van der Sloot was in Peru for a poker tournament, having entered the country on May 14. It is unclear if Stephany participated in the gambling tournament as well.

Bloody stabbing mess in hotel room

Stephany Flores was murdered approximately 8 a.m. on Sunday, May 30, according to her father Ricardo Flores, a Peruvian businessman and race car driver. Joran van der Sloot was the registered occupant of the luxury hotel room in the Miraflores neighborhood of the city.

The room in which Joran had rented, and Stephany's body was found, was covered with blood and showed signs of a struggle.

May murders a coincidence?

Joran van der Sloot has remained a suspect in the May 30 disappearance of another young woman, Natalie Holloway. Holloway was last seen in the company of Joran van der Sloot when she disappeared as well.

Like Stephany Flores, Natalie had been seen with Joran van der Sloot in a hotel casino too. And like Stephany, Natalie was not seen the next morning after spending the evening with Joran van der Sloot. The fact that Natalie disappeared in May of 2005, her body never to be found, and Stephany Flores was murdered in May 2010 has not escaped the notice of law enforcement investigating both cases.

Joran van der Sloot checks out of hotel four hours after arriving with Stephanie

Joran and Stephanie had only been at the hotel for four hours when the Dutch boy absconded Peru. Joran checked out of the hotel room in which Stephany's body would later be found three days later, on Wednesday, June 2.

But Joran did not immediately leave Peru. Instead, he exited the country around 1:42 p.m. in the afternoon on Monday, May 31, according to official reports.

NY city lawyer for van der Sloot comments

"Joran van der Sloot has been falsely accused of murder once before," Joran's New York city lawyer, Joe Tacopina told the press.

The Dutch boy's
lawyer cautioned anyone from rushing to judgment on the case, but many have said that is an impossibility given the similarities already glaringly obvious and that Joran van der Sloot fled the premises the day Stephanie Flores is believed to have been stabbed to death in Joran's hotel room in Peru.

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« Reply #1909 on: June 02, 2010, 09:04:10 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!

Me too Magnolia!

(((hugs)))

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« Reply #1910 on: June 02, 2010, 09:05:58 PM »

The irony of him murdering a prominent citizen of Peru`s daughter shouldn`t be overlooked.

He didn`t simply kill a janitor`s daughter.

The man is a respected business man; he even ran for office.

Every life to me is equally important.

...but as Aruba has displayed to the world... this isn`t necessarily true.

They treated Natalee and her family like dogs.

Joran felt the need to bring this full circle... and now it is time for him to pay his debts... and he will pay this time. He is smoked. He is done. Just like his own father.
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« Reply #1911 on: June 02, 2010, 09:06:55 PM »

Just saw Nancy...BUSY day at work...just learning about the latest news.
I'm in shock but not surprised!!

Where is everyone?
I know I can't be the only member on.


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« Reply #1912 on: June 02, 2010, 09:07:08 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!

Me too Magnolia!

(((hugs)))



I wonder if they can use torture....
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« Reply #1913 on: June 02, 2010, 09:07:52 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!

Even if he says where Natalee is it will be Aruba who has to give us her body.  The last people to move Natalee's body were the officials in Aruba.
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« Reply #1914 on: June 02, 2010, 09:08:49 PM »

pink.....everything is temp. shut down except posting...
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« Reply #1915 on: June 02, 2010, 09:08:51 PM »

Just saw Nancy...BUSY day at work...just learning about the latest news.
I'm in shock but not surprised!!

Where is everyone?
I know I can't be the only member on.


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« Reply #1916 on: June 02, 2010, 09:09:28 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!

Me too Magnolia!

(((hugs)))



I wonder if they can use torture....

Waterboard him!....then pull out his fingernails one by one.
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« Reply #1917 on: June 02, 2010, 09:10:40 PM »

I would like to make one more point- separately from my last post, and that's why I am posting this by itself.

To you haters - that said that We (here at SM) would take JUSTICE into our own hands, to settle the score, to make it even Steve -

It was Joran that killed again.

It was US (here at SM) that warned again and again that Joran would kill someone.

You laughed, You defended. You enabled.

We here @ SM did our best and our part to prevent Joran from killing anyone again.

We wrote to the State Department again and again,

We wrote to the Hague.

We WROTE to the Queen. We had few allies in Holland and none on Aruba.

You, too, own this atrocity.

While you laff'd, we cried.

The tables have turned and you need to examine your own pathetic lives.

Most of you have spent the last five years enabling exactly what occurred in Peru, and you hold much of the responsibility.

Those of you that have any soul left, I encourage you to denounce your previous posts - 5 years worth - and apologize to Beth and Dave. That's a start. You were wrong.

Rob, I know this comes from your heart.....but those people that have continually defended joran, paulus, anita and aruba....those that have continually defiled the memory of Natalee with their hateful words about Natalee and Beth, with their ignorant photos of an innocent, murdered young woman and her mother who only wanted, needed, to know the truth...these people have have no souls...you give them far too much credit. Beth and Dave lived  a horror movie....and these cretins were extras in that movie......
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« Reply #1918 on: June 02, 2010, 09:11:12 PM »

pink.....everything is temp. shut down except posting...
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Thank you, for answering...makes total sense.

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« Reply #1919 on: June 02, 2010, 09:11:14 PM »

Magnolia,

I hope you're here...even though I can't see you!




I am here!!  Just invisible.  Still in shock over this and afraid to count chickens before
he is in custody.  I hope they bring him in alive and force him to tell whrere Natalee is.
Love to all!

Even if he says where Natalee is it will be Aruba who has to give us her body.  The last people to move Natalee's body were the officials in Aruba.


So true, San. 
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