Shantina"'Kat" Smiley & 8 yo son Azriel, WA Missing 3/13/10(BODY OF BOY FOUND)

[Wyks]

A timeline that folks over at InSessions have done: 

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=365616&page=30


Saturday

4:15 Shantina calls Robb Simmons twice to let him know she is leaving for Castle Rock. Robb asked Shantina to grab his phone charger as his battery is nearly dead (from Robb’s website)

4:30 Robb’s Cub Scout training ends early (originally slated to end at 6:30) He leaves for Castle Rock

5:00 Shantina and Azriel leave Silverdale for Castle Rock to visit Shantina's stepfather

6:45 Shantina calls Robb Simmons to ask him to bring her cell phone, but he tells her he has already left for Castle Rock. Shantina said Azriel was hungry and she had pulled off the freeway, but didn‘t know quite where. Complained of heavy traffic, and gave Robb the address to her stepfathers place in Castle Rock, saying she would be there shortly..At the time of this call he was stopped in Toledo-Vader to make a quick repair (from Robb’s website)

7:40 Robb arrives in Castle Rock at Shantina’s stepfathers house.

7:50 Smiley and Azriel stop at Handy Pantry at 2010 Division Street Northwest in Olympia. Purchased a bottle of wine. Surveillance video shows her rolling the front tires over a curb.

9:00 Smiley and Azriel stop at Martin Way Diner at 2423 4th Avenue East, Olympia. She buys a corndog but does not take it with her. She trips and falls on her knee in the parking lot on the way back to the van.

9:00 Robb and Shantina’s Stepfather start getting worried. Checked with WSP about accedents and drove around the area. Called Shantina’s grandfather in Brinnon on stepfather’s phone, and learned of the earlier phone call from Shantina. Went back to stepfather’s house.

9:45 Surveillance video at shows Shantina stopping at Gull Harbor Mercantile, 4932 Boston Harbor Rd, but the store was closed. There have been reports of her looking in the windows.

10:00 Shows up at Dennis Williams house on 46th Ave NE Olympia to ask for directions and use the phone. Called her Grandfather in Brinnon, WA (which is northeast of Silverdale) and told him she had been in an “accident” Azriel was given pizza by the residents. She appeared sleepy and disoriented, and looked like she’d been crying

10:15 (approx) Surveillance video shows the van passing Gull Harbor Mercantile heading north on Boston Harbor Rd.

11:00 Police believe the van was at the beach at this time.

12 midnight Robb and stepfather travel up I-5 checking rest stops. Returned to Castle rock, to get a couple hours sleep

1:00am Beach area resident hears a knock at garage.

Daybreak- Robb gets a phone charger and heads up I-5 to Olympia and back down to Castle Rock. At this time he is in contact with authorities.

Sunday

10am Van found on beach near the home of Jim Pribbenow, 8345 Zangle Rd, Olympia


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I'd like to add that at around 6am on Sunday was high tide.   And that there was little to no moonlight Saturday night/Sunday morning. 

Add this to the above timeline:

8.00 pm - Safeway (3215 Harrison Ave NW), on surveillance cam

[Wyks]

So this video was of her buying wine at 7:50? I was thinking it was at 9:50 stop...
So this is the time line?
AT 5 she leaves,
7:50 she buys wine, says she is lost, looks at a map
9:00 at the restaurant, leaves before food is ready, son said she hit her head. She is seen stumbling in the parking lot.
9:50 stopped at another store and bought??
10 stopped at the house to use the phone.
So where was she from 7:50 to 9?

I wonder if she was on anti depressants. You cannot drink while on them. 1/2 of a bottle in 1 hour? That would get me tipsy enough to get lost.

Safeway, at 8p. 

One news report said that she dropped by a friends house.  Would love to know more about that.  Or if it was just sloppy reporting by the media.  ?? 

"Police say Smiley then stopped by a diner in east Olympia to order food, but then she left without taking the food.  Workers say she fell in the parking lot upon leaving the establishment.  Smiley was then traced to a grocery store in Boston Harbor before she visited a friend nearby. "

http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/state/story/Body-of-child-found-on-Fox-Island-is-missing-boy/lsOYwCNxmE-AWgKbPDAikA.cspx

[Edward]

I am trying to account for that 1/2 bottle of wine.

Drunk..

Disorientated is like a medical condition..

As far as her hitting the curb.. Lots of people these days drive like that.

Why do you suppose she stops to look in the windows of the harbor store ?

Robb ? He.... I just do not know about him.

[Edward]

visited a friend nearby ? wth is that ?
Who was that ?

[AmandaReckonwith]

Wyks, it was at the Safeway where Shantina bought the wine.

[Tracygirl]

visited a friend nearby ? wth is that ?
Who was that ?

I forgot about this detail. I am having a hard time with this case, keeping everything straight because the actions are so strange.

Who was this friend? So does this friend account for the stalling she seemed to be doing?

[Tracygirl]

I am trying to account for that 1/2 bottle of wine.

Drunk..

Disorientated is like a medical condition..

As far as her hitting the curb.. Lots of people these days drive like that.

Why do you suppose she stops to look in the windows of the harbor store ?

Robb ? He.... I just do not know about him.

Maybe she split the wine with said friend?

[Wyks]

Wyks, it was at the Safeway where Shantina bought the wine.

Ok thanks!  It looks like a convenience store from the video, lol. 

[Wyks]

I dunno who the 'friend' was.  That's the only mention of this that I could find.  Didn't find that reported in any other place.  Could be more sloppy media reporting too. 

[AmandaReckonwith]

SORRY. I was wrong. She looked at a map at Safeway, while Az watched himself doing arm & leg movements for the surveillance camera...
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=001-2.flv

She bought wine at Handy Pantry.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=004.flv

[Wyks]

Another weird thing.. Ok a couple.. lol 

All involve .. Robb. 

It appears from what investigators say.. that Robb actually left before Shantina.  He supposedly left at 4:30, she supposedly left at 5. 

She supposedly calls Robb at 6:45 and says she is lost.  He is supposedly ahead of her on the road.  Why doesn't he just tell her to stay put and backtrack to where she was? 

Ok, Robb gets to her step-fathers house and when Shantina doesn't show up, they start looking for her around 10 pm or so.  Robb says that around 12 pm they quit and go to sleep for a couple of hours............. WTF??  Who does that when a loved one is missing?? 

[Wyks]

SORRY. I was wrong. She looked at a map at Safeway, while Az watched himself doing arm & leg movements for the surveillance camera...
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=001-2.flv

She bought wine at Handy Pantry.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=004.flv

Ahhhh ok, thanks! 

[Wyks]

In this video, at the very beginning, it shows that the van side door shuts automatically.  So how is it possible that the van was found with the door wide open? 

http://www.kitsapsun.com/videos/detail/surveillance-video-shows-shantina-smiley-son-satur/

[Wyks]

difference between low and high tide in inches ?

I don't know that Edward.  Am looking for it on InSessions, cuz it was discussed there at some point.  Someone looked it up on a weather channel or something. 

What I've found reported is that the water level had reached seat level.  At question is whether that was seat cushion level or the top of the seats?  Also reported by the one who first saw the van was that it was 'nearly submerged'.  Which would indicate to me that the water level was as high as the top of the seats. 

Haven't found a pic yet of the van as LE actually first found it.  In the pic we've seen, the water had receded all the way back from the van. 

And then it was reported about 10am, high tide was at about 6 am.  So the van had to have been back-end in deeper water before LE even got there.
   

[Tracygirl]

SORRY. I was wrong. She looked at a map at Safeway, while Az watched himself doing arm & leg movements for the surveillance camera...
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=001-2.flv

She bought wine at Handy Pantry.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=004.flv

I am getting confused, lol. So she visits the store at 7:50 and only looks at the map? BTW, it seems that sweet little Azriel is watching himself on the camera video, my son does that so sad...
Then at 9 goes to the restaurant to order food but leaves
then at 9:50 goes to the store to buy wine? Sorry I am 

[Wyks]

http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=11&sid=301809

<snipped>

"According to police, there was no indication that a crime took place inside Smiley's 2005 Dodge Caravan."

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Isn't that an odd way to word things?  Seems it leaves open the possibility of a crime occuring outside the van. 

[Wyks]

SORRY. I was wrong. She looked at a map at Safeway, while Az watched himself doing arm & leg movements for the surveillance camera...
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=001-2.flv

She bought wine at Handy Pantry.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=004.flv

I am getting confused, lol. So she visits the store at 7:50 and only looks at the map? BTW, it seems that sweet little Azriel is watching himself on the camera video, my son does that so sad...
Then at 9 goes to the restaurant to order food but leaves
then at 9:50 goes to the store to buy wine? Sorry I am 

Well... I could be wrong... am thinking that she stopped at Handy Pantry at 7.50p and bought the wine, and water for Az.  Then at about 8pm she stopped at Safeway and looked at a map.  Then around 9pm stops at the diner. 

[Tracygirl]

Can you read what the time is on the video

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Shantina%20Smiley%20-%20Azriel%20Carver/?action=view&current=004.flv

[Edward]

If the van was at all submerged there would be no evidence because it washed away.


Robb is a question mark in this case..
Just so many things that he said.

[Tracygirl]

Another weird thing.. Ok a couple.. lol 

All involve .. Robb. 

It appears from what investigators say.. that Robb actually left before Shantina.  He supposedly left at 4:30, she supposedly left at 5. 

She supposedly calls Robb at 6:45 and says she is lost.  He is supposedly ahead of her on the road.  Why doesn't he just tell her to stay put and backtrack to where she was? 

Ok, Robb gets to her step-fathers house and when Shantina doesn't show up, they start looking for her around 10 pm or so.  Robb says that around 12 pm they quit and go to sleep for a couple of hours............. WTF??  Who does that when a loved one is missing?? 

His actions that night don't make a whole lot of sense either.

Where did he go to sleep? did he go back to his home or the step dads?