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Tylergal
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Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background
Sen. Barack Obama approached the media after a meeting with President Bush at the White House on Jan. 5. (AFP/File/Mannie Garcia)
Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?
This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.
An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.
"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."
When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not.
Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education.
"The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive."
In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."
The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public.
His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya.
Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.
The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.
Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.
Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner.
"Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks."
The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii.
"Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient."
In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular.
In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home.
Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...."
In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables."
Mr. Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School; he became the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. He later settled in Chicago, joined a law firm and began attending and helping local churches.
Mr. Obama is married to Michelle Robinson and they have two daughters, Malia and Sasha. In 1996, he was elected to the Illinois state Senate. Eight years later, he became a U.S. senator from Illinois.
The sources said Ms. Clinton regards Mr. Obama as her most formidable opponent and the biggest obstacle to the Democratic Party’s 2008 presidential nomination. They said Ms. Clinton has been angered by Mr. Obama's efforts to tap her supporters for donations.
In late 2006, when the Illinois senator demonstrated his intention to run for president, the Clinton campaign ordered a background check on Mr. Obama, the sources said. Earlier this week, Mr. Obama established an exploratory committee, the first step toward a formal race.
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John Edwards' camp is in my backyard and what you have posted here, is exactly what some here have related as the truth as well. Between Hilary and Edward's, I do not think Barack has a ghost of a chance of winning the nomination - war has begun and he will be exposed.
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That is great news; I hadn't thought about the other Democrats exposing him, but it makes so much sense and I am glad to hear it's being done. I can't believe that Americans would be so naive as to let someone like Barack Hussein Obama into our White House. He absolutely has to be exposed, and all of America has to be educated about him. He is a Muslim, and I think all of us, as well as his political enemies, should do all we can to get the word out about him and stop him now. As a registered Republican, I personally will register as a Democrat and vote against him in the Democratic primary--and I won't be the only one to do so.
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One thing I have learned from the liberals the past six years is the politics of personal destruction and their own version of RealPolitik, or the end justifies the means. This is their lame adaptation of the EU version of total self-interest and the greater good be damned.
I have no doubt that Billary will apply to Obama the same tactics the left has used against Bush with their constant attacks against his character. I also think it is only fair to apply these same practices back to them all now that they are in a position to "govern." Otherwise, they will never learn what is wrong with this approach and it is doubtful they will in any event. But it is only fair.
So according to Hillary's background checks, we have Obama the Dry Drunk Wahabbi Radical Muslim who is a socialist and was a cocaine addict in college. This is how Bush has been described by the left but only when they, with far lesser educational degrees, were not calling him illiterate and a moron.
Not one Democratic candidate holds a degree from both Harvard and Yale as Bush does and with Bush having a higher grade point average than the intellectual Kerry, he still was never even given the benefit of the doubt. Why should his opponents receive better than they gave? And no one can sell that the junior congressman from Texas at the time, his father, had the clout at the time to pave any way for W, either.
But in the true manner of cannibals everywhere, it is the Democrats who will destroy Obama in keeping with Hillary's treatment of any and all opponents. So unless Obama has some way to quickly ingratiate himself to Hillary, his destruction is at hand and it is not at all the far right as some are trying to contend who will bring this about.
He will be treated as badly as Bill's female victims all across the country have been and maybe even worse. Obama doesn't have a Blue Dress replete with DNA evidence to save himself with, so anything goes. And that means first of all his reputation.
People who live in very fragile glass houses should think twice before they throw rocks. Al Gore flunked out of not only law school but seminary college as well (just about impossible to do) and yet some how he is now the chief source for global warming scientific data. He wouldn't understand a scientific paper if it bit him in the butt!
His diatribes and rants are almost identical to those of the Unibomber and I suspect his mentality is not far removed, either. The man needs help, not given credibility and Oscars. But just such is the state of our liberal run media and Hollywood. Sad, but true, just look at the support given Rosie and her ilk by network television.
So I do hope the far left is prepared to receive that old payback we hear so much about. I believe it's said to be quite a bitch but oh, it's coming. . . never doubt that for a minute. And it's so richly deserved! In fact, I can't think of a more deserving group.
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