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« Reply #1580 on: May 06, 2010, 07:18:51 PM »

IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.
He sure did, didn't he, let's start pretending we are talking on the cell phone 

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« Reply #1581 on: May 06, 2010, 07:19:32 PM »

Why the Judge in the Casey Anthony Trial Was Right to Recuse Himself Due to His Remarks to a Blogger
By ANITA RAMASASTRY
 
Thursday, May 6, 2010

Last month, Judge Stan Strickland recused himself from presiding over the Florida state criminal trial of Casey Anthony. As readers are likely aware, Casey Anthony is charged with killing her two-year-old daughter, Caylee -- whose remains were found near the family home in December 2008. The controversial trial is set to begin sometime next year.

Judge Strickland's recusal was prompted by a motion by Casey's defense attorney, Jose Baez. The motion took issue with the judge's brief remarks to, and about, blogger David Knechel, aka "David Marinade," who is covering the trial.

As it turns out, the judge's comments were minimal and probably fairly innocuous – but given the nature of the blogosphere and the low threshold set by Florida's recusal standard, the judge likely made the right decision in stepping down.

This is just one example of the ways in which judges and lawyers are currently grappling with the role that technology and social networking should play in their work and in their lives.  As I explained in a prior column, Florida also was in the spotlight on such issues when it told judges that they could not ethically have lawyers as Facebook friends. 

The Casey Anthony trial blogger incident is yet another example of the kinds of new ethical dilemmas that are arising in this area.

The Judge and the Blogger

In his recusal decision, Judge Strickland noted that he had begun reading blogs about the Casey Anthony case in order to help him decide whether he should grant the defense's change-of-venue motion.  The defense contends that the trial should be moved out of Orlando because of the excessive and -- the defense says -- prejudicial media coverage there. 

The judge's decision to read the blogs is, in itself, potentially disturbing, unless all counsel consented to it.  Judges are not supposed to do outside research, beyond the submissions of attorneys on a particular question.  That's because each side is entitled to know about all the materials the judge has considered in making his decision, so that each side can make a fully-informed and effective argument to the judge regarding the weight and relevance (or lack thereof) of those materials.  (Counsel could properly submit screen-shots of blogs' webpages in support of a change-of-venue motion, however, since then each side would know exactly what materials the judge had seen and would have the ability to address them.)   

Defense attorney Baez alleged that Judge Strickland also called blogger Knechel to inquire about his health, and that the judge did not disclose this apparently personal relationship with Knechel to the defense. (Note: This alleged phone call was not discussed in the Judge's recusal order and has not been further confirmed). Baez also alleged that Judge Strickland recognized Knechel at a court hearing, summoned him to the bench, and spoke to him.

The judge conceded that he did talk to the blogger in court.  Indeed, he could hardly have denied it, as there was a TV camera rolling, microphones were on, and the conversation took place in front of the attorneys.  Part of the conversation was caught on audio; Knechel says that people are reading his blog because he does a "good job, very simple."  Judge Strickland remarks that Knechel had "admonished and frequently chastised those who came onto his blog for the sole purpose of bashing the defendant and her family."   He also thanks Knechel for being "fair and civilized." 

The defense disagreed with the blog's fairness and pointed out that, in fact, Knechel has posted remarks such as "Casey Anthony must die!" "Caylee's murder: Premeditated and pretty stupid too" and "Guilty as charged" on his blog.  But perhaps those comments were not on the blog on the days when the judge visited it, or perhaps the judge did not consider those comments to be in the realm of those he considered to be "bashing" the defendant and her family, as opposed to simply expressing an opinion on the case. 

Judicial Ethics and the Blogosphere:  Did Judge Strickland Violate Florida Ethics Rules?

Did Judge Strickland violate Florida's judicial ethics rules by communicating with the blogger in court ? 

Canon 3 of the Florida Judicial Code of Ethics states that a judge shall perform the duties of judicial office impartially and diligently.  Even the appearance of partiality or favoritism is a problem:  Judges need to tread lightly to avoid perceived conflicts or partisan views.   

Moreover, in Florida, a judge is required to recuse himself or herself from a trial if the recusal motion has a legally-sufficient basis.  Here, moreover, "legally-sufficient" has been interpreted to mean that the motion by the party seeking recusal demonstrates a good-faith belief that that party is not going a receive a fair trial. 

As commentators have noted, Florida has thus set a low threshold for recusal – perhaps too low.  Judge Strickland reportedly has a reputation for being competent and fair.   Moreover, one could argue that Judge Strickland's comments were brief and that their content – allegedly sending a get-well wish, and complimenting Knechel's impartiality -- was relatively innocuous.  The judge himself described the content of his words as "unremarkable," and noted that they were uttered in open court for all to hear. 

Still, blogs do often indicate a viewpoint – and surely, the judge would have been better off remaining silent, rather than indicating any preference or opinion at all about a  particular blog or blogger.

Ironically, Judges Themselves May Ethically Blog Under Some Circumstances

Oddly enough, in the future Judge Strickland himself might be able to become a blogger, if he so chooses.  Florida has not yet ruled on the issue, but other states are permitting their judges to blog.  

For instance, in November 2009, the State of Washington published an ethics opinion to this effect. The Washington Judicial Ethics Advisory Committee noted that "[t]he Code of Judicial Conduct does not specifically prohibit a judge from blogging on the Internet," but it also added a word of caution: 

Even though a judicial officer may post a blog on the internet, caution should be exercised as to how that blog is used and comments responded to in order to make sure that the judicial officer's impartiality is not called into question or the action does not impair the judicial officer's ability to decide impartiality issues that come before the judicial officer.  For instance, the judicial officer should consider the impression that may be conveyed when responding to comments that are posted on the blog and how to tailor those comments to avoid any impression that the judicial officer's impartiality might be called into question. The judicial officer should also consider whether readers might perceive that the judge's impartiality is impaired by the volume and content of the comments received.
 
In time, we will surely have a better sense as to what will -- or will not -- cause the appearance of judges' partiality in cyberspace and, in particular, in the blogosphere.  For now, Judge Strickland was wise to take a safe route – and other judges may be wise to take heed of his examples and keep their blog preferences out of the public eye.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20100506.html
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« Reply #1582 on: May 06, 2010, 07:25:24 PM »

Only one person from the Center for Justice not getting paid by Florida tax dollars:


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« Reply #1583 on: May 06, 2010, 07:29:00 PM »

Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

   Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

  

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.
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« Reply #1584 on: May 06, 2010, 07:29:04 PM »

Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

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« Reply #1585 on: May 06, 2010, 07:30:48 PM »

IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.

Ooh! I soo agree. Baez was so upset he was nearly in tears. But that's still no reason to act like he was 6. What I would really love to see from now on is for Kathi to ignore him and treat Cheney like the lead attorney and ask him any questions she might have. That would really get Bozo's knickers in a twist!!
 


All better duck & take cover at Baez's house tonight---he strikes me as one who takes his cases home with him.  lol
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« Reply #1586 on: May 06, 2010, 07:31:59 PM »

IMO, that little temporary blackout/transfer to the outside where we saw Kathi was getting ready, was deliberate ... maybe to insure no leakage of sound ?????  Because, I think they were discussing the newest motion that Jar filed just this morning---perhaps after 9 a.m.  He refused to tell her about it & told her to go look it up in that exit video.    I still say Baez was very shook & livid as they left.  He even pulled the old "Mark Geargos-talk-on-the cellphone-as-you're walking" routine.
He sure did, didn't he, let's start pretending we are talking on the cell phone 

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« Reply #1587 on: May 06, 2010, 07:33:19 PM »


***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”     Wow, little late for that
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« Reply #1588 on: May 06, 2010, 07:34:06 PM »

Thanks NorthernRose.   
Yes thank-you   
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe 




Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 
Funny, I was think of something similar, that the State of FL should sue the nightmare team and casey for tying up the courts and the prosecution for almost 2 yrs. And now that she is "poor" and wants the tax payers to pay for her duhfence now they will start their investigations and findings!

One more thing, if according to biass they are going to interview family and teachers (from elementary school), I think the prosceution should be able to use any photos depicting casey's behavior even before casey killed Caylee.

RE Brandi's pic above, I wonder how many power tools they needed to get lyons hair to look nice?!
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« Reply #1589 on: May 06, 2010, 07:34:18 PM »

Thanks NorthernRose.   
Yes thank-you   
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe 


    And you actually survive the HaLeigh threads too.   My hat's off to you--you're a stronger person than I am.
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« Reply #1590 on: May 06, 2010, 07:39:08 PM »


***Her attorneys asked that she not have to attend hearings. “Casey Anthony doesn’t like people criticizing her appearance or actions, so she asked to stay in jail during future hearings,”     Wow, little late for that
Right?  Plus, I didn't know she was on line so much. I mean really, how is she able to find out that people are criticizing her? TV, magazines, phone calls, visits, internet????
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« Reply #1591 on: May 06, 2010, 07:41:41 PM »

They are going to go back to the time of conception, and every thing that happened between then and now. I'm actually very interested in this, I always have to know what makes a person tick, and I'm prepared for what makes Casey and her family tick.

'Twill be interesting to see how they spin their 'dirty laundry' in public, but right is right & wrong is wrong, but the murdering of a defenseless child will not be washed away in the rinse cycle.
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« Reply #1592 on: May 06, 2010, 07:45:12 PM »

Thanks NorthernRose.   
Yes thank-you   
She is suing the State of Florida for funds for the defense which it sounded like she expects to lose before she can even mount it, She compared the experience to the Salem Witch Trial, although it sounded even worse. It is like Alice in Wonderland, “first the verdict and then the trial.”  WTH, I just know I'm living in a parallel universe 




Brandi, she never looked this good even in her legendary mind.
 

You can say that agaian!  LOL
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« Reply #1593 on: May 06, 2010, 07:52:44 PM »

Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html
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« Reply #1594 on: May 06, 2010, 07:54:57 PM »

Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

   Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

  

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.

Me too Ono.I love to listen to him.He is very intelligent.   
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« Reply #1595 on: May 06, 2010, 07:58:06 PM »

So this Ms. Barrett after talking to family......what's she gonna say, she should be pitied and spared the DP because the entire family hated KC cause she was a liar and a thief.....good luck with that as an excuse for murdering your baby Caylee!
I guess Seeme that is her position within is to portray Casey as necessary hah. Bobo said that this woman has interviewed all these relatives of Casey's ..from Ohio, Carolina's ... who are these people. Since day one  "no one" from the family but Rick Plesea has ever spoke out. Its been CA/GA/LA and Grandma Shirley. Not one " Friend of Family" has ever been heard of or seen. Even the Neighbors don't want to be involved.  Who are all these " family members" that were interviewed by Barrett to represent Casey's person/present/past ??
Beat me with a stick    .. sounds like nonsense, but then again it was Bobo who explained her " Barrett's"  key purpose for testimony.  

JMO, but with so much emphasis on Ms. Barrett it seems clear to me that HER DUHfence team fully expect her to be convicted of MURDER...........Ms. Barrett and her input will be for the sentencing phase, to try to keep her from getting the DP.....only because they don't beleive in the DP....it has nothing to do with Caylee or KC for them.....it the DP..............Damn, if I felt I was that close to getting the death penalty I would be demanding a plea. These attorneys are only out for their own glory. They KNOW she is going to be convicted..but I bet that's not what they are telling her

I think they are ALL working toward the penalty phase of the trial and have completely discarded all idea they had of of getting her found not guilty. At this point they are just milking the hearings for all the publicity THEY can get and to hell with KC..................Unfortunately she is way TOO STUPID to see it and the BOZO won't let anyone get close enough to her to tell her.
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« Reply #1596 on: May 06, 2010, 07:58:14 PM »

Brandi I thought that photo of LKB was fake and that the twitter was fake - It is " her" twitter - the picture matches her Bio and written media on the Huffington Post.
I don't know who she is kidding ..she does not look like that photo. noooo Maybe 20 yrs ago.
I guess if it makes her Smile ..that's what matters. 


Kind of misleading to post an old photo like that. That's all I meant.

*shrug*

No no no ..Brandi I was overtly trying to be Nice * of her after all this Lyonese talk  that women in Law are a joke with their lies/deceptions etc...Omg No shrugs from you ...see what happens when I do not follow my instincts. I was going to write " She must be Disillusion" That photo is a fraction of her true self .. 
Please No Shrugs  ITA it is misleading........

Oh Deenie! I was shrugging at LKB being misleading.

Not your comment!

 
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« Reply #1597 on: May 06, 2010, 07:58:39 PM »

Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


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« Reply #1598 on: May 06, 2010, 07:59:44 PM »

Hold on to your wine glasses!
34 pages with exhibits on Motions filed today.
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23477589/detail.html


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« Reply #1599 on: May 06, 2010, 08:01:07 PM »

Nebraska !!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL...

   Present and accounted for!  Uh.... what about Nebraska?   


LOL--when Baez replied that one of his experts was fom there it was funny as it is so far away from Orlando & Judge Perry was hoping to cut costs and get as many local or nearby experts as possible.

  

Thanks Ono!  Would have loved to have seen Judge Perry's face when Baez was explaining that!! 



LOL---His Honor displayed quite a lovely plethora of facial expressions today!!    Just love the man.

Me too Ono.I love to listen to him.He is very intelligent.   

I especially like how he is prepared and ready to cite the law and his interpretation to the case at a moment's notice.

He impresses me with his knowledge of the law. Sorry to say, Judge Strickland didn't impress me that way.

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