Haleigh Marie Cummings #33 4/15/10 - 4/19/10

[Cappuccino]

THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY EXCLUSIVE CLIPS FROM INSIDE ONE OF MISTY CROSLIN’S LIE DETECTOR TESTS. YOU WILL ONLY SEE THEM HERE. LISTEN CLOSELY FOR CLUES, AND STAND BY FOR MORE CLIPS. THIS FIRST CLIP IS FROM TJ WARDS VOICE ANALYSIS..MISTY TALKS ABOUT WASHING A PEE SMELL FROM THE BLANKETS.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/exclusive-video-inside-the-misty-crolsin-lie-detector/

Here a copy you can read

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tjward-misty-lva2.pdf

Is this the same that Rob was talking about hoping it would be posted?

[Miki Monkey]

Miki Monkey what is a Wiccan exactly, all I saw on some of these tweets backgrounds were witch things, so I assumed that is what they are or think they are.

I wouldn't read too much into 3 being Wiccan, it is very popular to claim to be Wiccan without having the faintest idea of what it really means. It's essentially an earth based religion that believes in doing harm to none and that any good or bad thought or deed will return to the sender times 3. In fact its it is defined by its code An ye do harm to none. It has been hijacked by popular culture and has been somewhat demonized.

Thanks for the explanation. The only thing is, these twitter accounts show witches and witch like things.  Would that mean they are the demonized ones??  I know nothing about it really.

These are people in love with the idea of being witches, they throw around pagan symbols and claim to do various magiks but in essence they are just trying to intimidate and impress. Witches and Shamans come from a past when all that was available to heal was herbs and incantations. These people have been reading too much Harry Potter.

Those are the people who scare me and could get involved in pagan rituals and such.  Just more kookiness to this family, I guess.

I'm afraid I have to agree with you, people like this can get themselves involved with a pagan religion called satanism, which gives them the excuse to do just about anything. Scares me too.

[Heart]

Report: Grandmother says Misty Croslin confessed details of Haleigh’s Cummings disappearance
 
Misty Croslin's grandmother said the teen broke down and confessed to her, saying she knows what happened to 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, according to a media report.

According to the report, Croslin's grandmother, Flora Hollars, said Croslin confessed to her, but insisted she was not involved. Channel 13 reported Saturday that the grandmother said someone "tied a brick block to the rope and dropped her into the St. Johns River." Hollars said Misty told her Haleigh was dropped into the river, but wouldn't say why she was killed. .

Fourteen months after Haleigh disappeared, authorities say people involved in the case are starting to break down and talk, including Croslin, the 5-year-old's former stepmother. She was the last person to see Haleigh before she vanished from her father's Satsuma home.

After more than a year of chasing leads in the case, Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said Thursday that the girl is "most likely dead." Detectives are investigating her case as a homicide.

Divers searched the St. John's River this week, recovering items. But it was not known if they are related to Haleigh's disappearance.

Hollars told the Sentinel earlier this week that she shared information she learned from talks with Misty with investigators.

"Every time I talk to her [Croslin], I get a little bit more and a little bit more," Hollars said by phone from Nashville, Tenn. "I even told them [investigators] where to go search at ... I know a yellow rope was supposed to be there."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-misty-confesses-grandma-haleigh-20100417,0,7704633.story

[cece]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

[cece]

THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY EXCLUSIVE CLIPS FROM INSIDE ONE OF MISTY CROSLIN’S LIE DETECTOR TESTS. YOU WILL ONLY SEE THEM HERE. LISTEN CLOSELY FOR CLUES, AND STAND BY FOR MORE CLIPS. THIS FIRST CLIP IS FROM TJ WARDS VOICE ANALYSIS..MISTY TALKS ABOUT WASHING A PEE SMELL FROM THE BLANKETS.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/exclusive-video-inside-the-misty-crolsin-lie-detector/

Here a copy you can read

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tjward-misty-lva2.pdf

Is this the same that Rob was talking about hoping it would be posted?

Looks like it is Capp.

[bananas]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

I don't recall it either.  I DO know cousin Joe was mentioned by MC.

[islandmonkey]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

I don't recall it either.  I DO know cousin Joe was mentioned by MC.

True, yet Ron denied it flat out and denied the fight over the gun

[Cappuccino]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

I don't recall it either.  I DO know cousin Joe was mentioned by MC.

I was going to bold the same exact thing!    Im listening to the 911 call right now....help me hear if and when "Cousin Joe" is mentioned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDXP15Uqwuk&feature=related

[Deenie]

Just another thought on the earrings. Because there are other photos of Haleigh around that time and she has no earrings in. Could she have had her ear's pierced months before she was missing .. Say maybe she got them pierced for her Birthday in August. Since she is wearing earrings in the photo with her precious little face all cut up - November wasn't it that it was said she fell and hit her face on the monkey bars/playground injury. I remember Grandma/Ron's Mom commenting about Haleigh's face bruised up/scabs etc " around Thanksgiving" ...
Earrings
Normally for little children they use special earrings with locked backs on them. So the child cannot remove them on their own - and for medical reasons " so they stay in place" to be rotated and cleaned. 6 mos is what I recall is said for the healing process after ear's being pierced that the/same earrings remain and be left in. The following Feb she was reported missing. Which is 6 mos from her Birthday. I wonder if she was wearing them when she was taken ... by the " Deliverance " family members.

Sorry these people make me nauseous " all of them" 
 

[cw618]

THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY EXCLUSIVE CLIPS FROM INSIDE ONE OF MISTY CROSLIN’S LIE DETECTOR TESTS. YOU WILL ONLY SEE THEM HERE. LISTEN CLOSELY FOR CLUES, AND STAND BY FOR MORE CLIPS. THIS FIRST CLIP IS FROM TJ WARDS VOICE ANALYSIS..MISTY TALKS ABOUT WASHING A PEE SMELL FROM THE BLANKETS.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/exclusive-video-inside-the-misty-crolsin-lie-detector/

Here a copy you can read

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tjward-misty-lva2.pdf

TY
have not got through the entire doc yet, but this caught my eye, see red boxes jpg
not sure what bearing that plugged in info would have, if any on the program used

[bananas]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. -- While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings' family.

Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.

His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.

"Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he's hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they're wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead," Shoemaker said.

Earlier this week, Flora Hollars -- the grandmother of Cummings' ex-wife Misty Croslin - spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin -- Joe Overstreet -- took the little girl.

Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

I don't recall it either.  I DO know cousin Joe was mentioned by MC.

True, yet Ron denied it flat out and denied the fight over the gun

IM.... that monkey perfectly describes the way my brain feels after trying to figure this out...... 

I bet those detectives come away from their talks with MC and TC feeling this way as well.

[Brandi]

I went through the ones that aren't protected, looks like some witchy stuff going on  One tweet said a suspect in custody, but then it is a false alarm 

Some poster from IS posted that at the IN site.

Birdie posted
    
well my article won't load from wftv. I had an alert and it says suspect in custody but the page won't load. Is this a joke? Is any one else hearing that there has been an arrest?
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=14074422&postcount=665

 False alarm
so sorry it is a cached page, I don't know what is going on with this.
Maybe it's a chain letter of some kind but so sorry.
Now I have cleaned my cache and wftv is not showing any arrest story.

How awful!

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=14074447&postcount=681

I went to the archived articles at WFTV on Haleigh & found this one:

Suspect In Custody In Haleigh Investigation

Posted: 3:04 pm EDT April 13, 2010Updated: 6:12 pm EDT April 13, 2010
http://www.wftv.com/news/23138607/detail.html

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Investigators were back out in Satsuma, Fla. looking for clues in the Haleigh Cummings investigation Tuesday. She's the 5-year-old girl who disappeared from her bed in her father's mobile home 14 months ago.

Sources told WFTV a suspect is in custody, but wouldn't provide any additional details. WFTV spoke to Haleigh's grandmother, but she said she's not allowed to talk about the search.
cont.

I think that news article was in error. The PCSO issued this statement: Note the second to last paragraph.

[Deenie]

What doesn’t fit for me is RC being ok with dumping Haleigh in the river if that’s what happened. No matter if his involvement actually led to her death or not I just can’t imagine him going along with disposing of her in that way. Am I giving him too much credit?

No, I don't think you are giving him too much credit.  Ron may be a thug, druggie/dealer, thief, you name it, but I DO NOT for one second think that he would have let someone get out of there alive if he knew they did something to his child.  Ron may not have the best education and lifestyle, but he is a whole lot above the Croslins. People are so scared of him  and saying he is to be feared, well, if he would beat up someone for just any old reason,   I just cannot see him letting someone tie his child to a block and throw her into the river.  That just does not make any sense to me. He would not have left his baby girl to be eaten by the wild animals, that is not his style.  We have seen someone (Casey) that had no problem doing that, but I can't believe he would do something like that. Besides, he was at work, the only person  out of the four that really has an alibi that has been verified. 

If Ron is involved, I will eat a Gummi Bear (I hate them lol) in honor of Gramma.   

Ron knows something. What that is ?? Who knows at this point. I totally agree with you - I don't believe for one second he would allow anyone to touch/take Haleigh before his eyes.
Like you said he may be many things but .. He would kill them with his hands or use other methods ..before he would " Allow" anyone touch/take his daughter with him present.
Save the Gummi Bears 

[Love2Read]

O/T

I just came in from the beach about 1 1/2 hours ago and the lifeguards were so busy rescuing swimmers today, sirens every 5-10 minutes. Anyway my dad just came in and saw a rescue down the beach, a man need PRAYERS asap, he was caught in a rip current with about 5 other people and panicked, the surfers brought him in and started CPR until the lifeguards arrived......he was just lifeflighted off the beach and it's been a good while since he was pulled out, they were still doing CPR while they loaded him in the helicopter so I ask if y'all would pls say a prayer for him, I would appreciate it very much

Yes, I sure will, how sad 

Thanks NRCG~I sure don't want some child to lose their daddy today

Prayers being said.

[klaasend]

THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY EXCLUSIVE CLIPS FROM INSIDE ONE OF MISTY CROSLIN’S LIE DETECTOR TESTS. YOU WILL ONLY SEE THEM HERE. LISTEN CLOSELY FOR CLUES, AND STAND BY FOR MORE CLIPS. THIS FIRST CLIP IS FROM TJ WARDS VOICE ANALYSIS..MISTY TALKS ABOUT WASHING A PEE SMELL FROM THE BLANKETS.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/exclusive-video-inside-the-misty-crolsin-lie-detector/

Here a copy you can read

http://www.artharris.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/tjward-misty-lva2.pdf

Is this the same that Rob was talking about hoping it would be posted?

I thought it was a new LVA from TJ Ward, this is the old LVA.  By the way, you can watch Misty's entire polygraph that was done in August 2009 at this link:

http://www.wftv.com/video/20601690/index.html

[Brandi]

Just another thought on the earrings. Because there are other photos of Haleigh around that time and she has no earrings in. Could she have had her ear's pierced months before she was missing .. Say maybe she got them pierced for her Birthday in August. Since she is wearing earrings in the photo with her precious little face all cut up - November wasn't it that it was said she fell and hit her face on the monkey bars/playground injury. I remember Grandma/Ron's Mom commenting about Haleigh's face bruised up/scabs etc " around Thanksgiving" ...
Earrings
Normally for little children they use special earrings with locked backs on them. So the child cannot remove them on their own - and for medical reasons " so they stay in place" to be rotated and cleaned. 6 mos is what I recall is said for the healing process after ear's being pierced that the/same earrings remain and be left in. The following Feb she was reported missing. Which is 6 mos from her Birthday. I wonder if she was wearing them when she was taken ... by the " Deliverance " family members.

Sorry these people make me nauseous " all of them" 
 

Haleigh had her ears pierced when she was very young.

Here is a picture of her much younger:

[BooMonkey]

Hi everybody. I have been trying to follow along the cage periodically through today.
I know you all have probably seen this video 50 times but I am going to post it again.
* its a reminder of the real Misty and real Ron at their best.
It is a video of middle towards the end of before drug bust/arrest of Ronald/Misty and the undercover cop.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jumBEsma3no&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/jumBEsma3no&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0</a>

From the start is it Misty obviously. And she to me is not a innocent teenage girl duped under the influence of Ronald nor her relationship with him. She is as sly as the day is long. Her facial expressions and her pure integrity of this deal is going to happen and I am in charge.. shows exactly what she's made of. She is fully confident and eager to get her drugs. Her big black circles under her eyes show just how much ..I think its funny how Both Ronald and Misty have stated since the arrest they are no longer involved. Yet Misty, refers to Ron as baby several times. The drug duo. At 3:30 Ron starts talking about his Guns and his knowledge of guns with dope deals/dealers gone wrong.

* One other thought I had was of Haleigh. The pictures that are the most recent of her - she is wearing the same pair of earrings. They are little clear crystal like triangles/hearts? with gold on them. Has anyone ever found them? Or thought to look for them? Possibly ( I don't want to think it) Possibly they are in the silt of the area under the dock. That they "could be?" somewhere in the bottom of the river floor?
Link to photos of Haleigh with the earrings on: http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/hailey-cummings-and-family-photos/haleigh-cummings-evidence/
http://www.oneangryman.com/ken/hailey-cummings-and-family-photos/haleigh-cummings-7/

I see Ron was playing with his wedding ring too! Baby my azz.   

[higherhopes]

Hello Monkeys, there's another "theory", for I hate to call it a story....going around Satsuma, someone told me this "theory" once before months ago and then I heard it again  the past week...Im starting to think we will never know the truth if we have to wait on Misty and Tommy to tell it and if they and cousin Joe were the only ones around when HaLeigh got killed then I just dont know how LE will ever figure it out. poor HaLeigh.

[Deenie]

Brandi what a picture, awe I have never seen that one before. Still makes me wonder if she was wearing her earrings the night she was taken "vanished".

[Cappuccino]

Ronald Cumming's Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead

 Jessica Clark     Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM    Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM

SNIPED

"He's not surprised," Shoemaker said, "and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about "Cousin Joe.""

First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.  First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions "Cousin Joe" Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.

Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.

Overstreet told First Coast News' Jackelyn Barnard "I didn't do it."

Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case.  Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.

"I think he has a pretty good idea that's what transpired," Shoemaker said.

However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3

I don't remember hearing Ron mention Joe in the 911 call, but as the article says, maybe it was redacted?

And TY Heart for posting the article.

I don't recall it either.  I DO know cousin Joe was mentioned by MC.

True, yet Ron denied it flat out and denied the fight over the gun

IM.... that monkey perfectly describes the way my brain feels after trying to figure this out...... 

I bet those detectives come away from their talks with MC and TC feeling this way as well.

I just listend and the only thing questionable is at aapprox 5:41 and I cannot discern if Ron is repeating  "get stole" or "cousin joe"    The thing that really gets me upset is that this little witch called Haleigh her daughter & yet she could give any details about Haleigh whatsoever, its hard to hear again.