Haleigh Marie Cummings #34 4/19/10 - 4/22/10

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Nancy is really nasty tonight 

she said - Richard, I'm sorry I went to you.

how rude. 

She is so rude, why people want to bother with her    Now on to Haleigh

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Lucy always tries to wear a barrette to bed 

[Heart]

raisincharlie says:
These tapes tell me that Ron never heard Joe say a word - Ron wasn't even there. Ron reports that Tommy, Joe and Tommy's son Austin were fishing when this all supposedly happened.

JMO - what is the real likihood Joe even said what has been reported ? Ron didn't hear it. Guess he got it from Tommy.
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loving mom of 2 says
I am not too new here but, this is my first time posting on here. After listening to the tapes and having my husband clean them up some I can say I thought Ron cussed a lot till after hearing Cobra (I think that is who the tapes are from) cuss. I think he has out done Ron in that department. But, from whats on the tape is that Ron is repeating the story that Tommy told him about the night that Hank, Tommy and Joe went to the docks and what Joe had said. Ron said this after Cobra started talking about it first. Tommy is the one who said he needed to get his son out of there cuz it looked like Lake Placid (sp). On tape 2 (which was a lot harder to clean up) Ron and Cobra are talking about how much a parent hurts when they lose a child and that Cobra told Ron to watch out for Joe cuz he is a very mean dude. Cobra cant get a reading on Joe at all and that Ron needs to watch out for him and then they talk about how the spelling of HaLeigh's name came about. Nothing that shows me that Ron was making up a story about anything on these tapes. Cobra does like to talk over Ron a lot in the tapes. Ron would start to comment on something that Cobra said but, Cobra talked over him. My husband is going to see if he can fix the audio on them to see what Ron is saying on them better.


OT I have also listened to the 911 tapes over after my husband cleaned them up some too and Ron does NOT say anything about drugs and there is no 3rd voice. Rons pitch of his voice changes alot from being pissed off yelling to just asking what did misty know and why did she not hear anything to crying for HaLeigh. My husband is going to try and clean them up more to see if there is anything else on them. My husband also said that if you think you hear a word and that is what is in your head when you keep listening to it, you will make yourself hear it. (he works for ABC News and he does editing for a living and after listening to tapes all day to bleep out cuss words before air time your mind plays tricks on you and you miss things.)

Please be gentle with me like I said its my first post here and I have alot of things on my mind about this case and so many are popping up right this min.
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Sorry I put the wrong name it was Joe not Tommy. All these names start to get to you once you start thinking in your head about all of them. But the story was first told to Cobra by Tommy before Ron said anything. Cobra is the one who brings it up on tape. Also tape 2 also has them talking about doing a search and all the places named are by Cobra non by Ron. They do talk about gators and what they do to there pray. I am from MI but go to the New Orleans area 3 times a year and the first thing I was told my first trip down was all about the gators and in return I tell the same story to everybody that I have taken down with me. So I dont see anything wrong with what they had said about how gators are cuz its what I have been told over and over.
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Ron said that Jr will be with me till the day I die. Then cobra said something and Ron said yeah even if he has to go with me like that he is daddys boy and then says that HaLeigh is daddys girl.
What cobra said I cant tell its not clear enough but, it sounded like he was asking Ron a question and Ron was replying to it.
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Searchfortruth says:
On tape 2 Cobra asks Ron if he has any connections to LE and Ron says no. Cobra is talking about searching Dunns (?) Bridge and the area where they are at. Actually Cobra says Dunns Bridge and "there". Then Ron starts talking about how alligators "burrow" and take their prey and push them into the burrow. This comes out of no where. Cobra says he knows all about gators and what they do, he's from Miami. Ron seems to be the one fascinated with "gators", if you ask me.
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doobiedoo52 says 
The second one-the point RC is making is about Crystal. They talk about how her name is spelled etc. Ron says Jr is daddy's little boy & will be with him forever. He says he got that tattoo on his back when Crystal was breastfeeding Haleigh (he uses a different term lol) and how come she's just getting hers' now?"

Searchfortruth says:
Tape 2, they start talking about Joe and Cobra says "he's such a good liar". I believe I hear Ron say that he's scared of him. Then Cobra warns Ron not to do anything, "you've got kids". That's when Ron says Jr is "going to be with him forever, till the day he dies". Ron then says, "that's Jr, that's daddys little boy".

As for the alligator conversation, Ron says the gator will push their prey up into the burrow even if it's a...then Cobra says I know, I know. I believe Ron was going to say, even if it's a small child.
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[cece]

She is covering another case right now.

Thanks No Rose.

Nancy's hormones are really flaring tonight 

yes!  (NG synopsis comments)  In today's society, daddies are nice, but it's all on mommy.  Especially if the mommy holds down a full time job.  Post partum, don't give me that, I've been there!  Nancy's husband you should be on your best behavior tonight or find a good hiding spot.  

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Granny Sykes always does the laundry for the children, story about eating supper, gave them a kiss went home.

[Rob]

wow, Sykes says she ALWAYS does the laundry....

 

Misty only does Ron's and Misty's

mhhmm sure. 

[cece]

Granny Sykes always does the laundry for the children, story about eating supper, gave them a kiss went home.

She didn't like the children's clothes to have stains on them.

[fatcatlurker]

Wow are you hearing this?  New to me about GGMS visit that night.  GGMS says she always did the childrens laundry and stopped by that night to drop it off and now she says she actually hugged and kissed the grandchildren that night and Misty helped carry the clean laundry into the house.

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Annette said Misty was not strung out that night   

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Talking about Misty wanting Teresa to watch the kids that night.

[fatcatlurker]

Well do you think there was a pile of clean laundry there that LE knows about??

[fatcatlurker]

omg!  speechless

[Brandi]

Wow are you hearing this?  New to me about GGMS visit that night.  GGMS says she always did the childrens laundry and stopped by that night to drop it off and now she says she actually hugged and kissed the grandchildren that night and Misty helped carry the clean laundry into the house.

That story came out long ago, it was also believed that someone was with her, but we never knew who. Still don't. But way back early on, she said, "We went over to take laundry ..."

[alagary]

Flos lie gets longer every time

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Granny says Misty heard Haleigh screaming in other room.

[Brandi]

Anyone notice NG being kinder with Ronald's Grandmother that Misty's Grandmother?

Or is it my imagination?

[Rob]

did I catch that right?

Sykes and Teresa were searching around in the woods?

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Per Flo: MC grabbed Jr when they heard Haleigh screaming and got into the bed and covered her head, when they came out HaLeigh was gone.

[fatcatlurker]

Wow are you hearing this?  New to me about GGMS visit that night.  GGMS says she always did the childrens laundry and stopped by that night to drop it off and now she says she actually hugged and kissed the grandchildren that night and Misty helped carry the clean laundry into the house.

That story came out long ago, it was also believed that someone was with her, but we never knew who. Still don't. But way back early on, she said, "We went over to take laundry ..."

yes but have never heard it with that much detail.  Before it was like the munchkins were sitting on the screened porch and just yelled Hi Granny!  Outside in the cold on the porch eating dinner.

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did I catch that right?

Sykes and Teresa were searching around in the woods?

Yes