Haleigh Marie Cummings #34 4/19/10 - 4/22/10

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks, Heart. I don't usually read Levi's stuff anymore, because he is not objective in my mind and he often has incorrect info. (Like they have been in jail for 4 months.) They were arrested Jan.20 .. exactly 3 months ago to the date, Levi.

But I read through it because it was posted here.

I do believe (and this is a relatively new belief to me) that Ronald knew what had transpired that night before the 911 call was made. I am not sure, but don't think he was directly involved with her death though. But the cover up .. yes. Since, as Cindy Anthony says, "day one."

Cover up from day one, yes.

[O4Bull]

Oh my goodness, this gave me the chills.  I cannot imagine your sisters pain, worry, fear and a whole lot more right now.  My thoughts and prayers are with her.  I hope you will hear from her soon.

As far as Misty goes?  Heck no!  And when you compare your sisters situation to Misty's behavior it is bone chilling. 

I brought it up cause we all need to remember how fragile life is (me included). Here one minute and gone the next.

sometimes when you see it all in perspective you get a glimpse into Misty's mind that may not be so apparent on the surface.
[/quote]
Rob, your story is much like one of mine, involving a relative.  She hit a pedestrian who dashed out in front of her on a busy street.  My aunt was going under the speed limit and still did not have time to react.  The lady was taken to a hospital by ambulance and my aunt was devestated that she had caused harm to another human being.  She couldn't sleep for days and finally someone told her the woman had passed away.  There was an accident report, and my aunt was found to not be at fault.  The woman was most likely high from some sort of drugs, but my aunt was never given any more information.  She went into a deep depression and was that way until her own health became an even bigger burden when she was diagnosed with cancer.  My aunt died almost a year after finding out, but she never forgot the other woman and her family, even though she never met her, and they were from different walks of life.  I hope your sister will get some counseling, as it can really be a serious issue for her to deal with alone.
Thank you for sharing your story, and I wish your sister peace and good health.  You made an excellent point, misty never ever showed any appropriate type of grieving.  Sickening, isn't it?  Makes it hard to believe if she killed Haleigh that it was an accident, doesn't it?

[no rose colored glasses]

O4Bull 

[islandmonkey]

Don't clear Ronald Cummings yet!
April 20, 3:24 PMNashville Crime ExaminerLevi Page


The attorney for Haleigh's father, Ronald Cummings, recently told the media that law enforcement advised his client who is currently awaiting trial on drug trafficking charges, to start making funeral arrangements for his daughter who vanished in February of 2009.

The investigation has taken a horrific twist, as investigators have now declared this case a homicide.

Here is what Ronald Cumming's attorney Terry Shoemaker told HLN's "Nancy Grace" Monday night:

Now the focus of the case has been on a man by the name of Joe Overstreet. A cousin of Misty Croslin. The Grandmother of Misty Croslin and Joe Overstreet has made public statements saying that Misty and Joe along with Tommy Croslin who is also jailed on charges of drug trafficking are involved.

In one story Grandmother Flora Hollers says Tommy Croslin confessed to her that he and cousin Joe tied Haleigh up with a rope, tied her to cinderblocks and then threw Haleigh in the St. John's river there in Satsuma Florida. 

But the grandmother is leaving out key details: Was she dead or alive when the two of them threw them into the river? Grandmother Hollers told Nancy Grace she didn't know. When you leave out such a huge element as whether the child was actually dead, that leads me to believe the "confession" or part of it, is complete bogus.

In my opinion Tommy Croslin was just trying to get the attention off of himself, his sister and possibly Ronald Cummings. Let's just blame this cousin of ours who happened to be in the area at the time. There is not enough details to lead me to believe that he is telling the truth.

Since Joe lives in Tennessee, he would not be a familar face to Haleigh. If he tried to harm her in anyway, would Haleigh have scratched him? Would Haleigh have bitten him? Has Tommy or Misty stated that there are scratches or bites to him? Is there any evidence other than what is alleged by Misty's family that points to Overstreet?

Are we really going to trust two people who have failed polygraph after polygraph? Who have been so deceptive and manipulative ever since Haleigh vanished?

Flora Hollers also told Nancy Grace, that she was told by "someone in Florida" that Misty hit Haleigh in the head with an object and then Joe and Tommy disposed of the body. When Grace pressed Hollers on who gave her that information she couldn't recall.

So someone tells you, that 3 of your grandchildren murdered a 5-year-old child, tied her body to a cinderblock and dumped the body in an alligator infested river, and you don't recall WHO gave you that information? What a load of crap.

Hollers went on to say that her grandchildren were involved and that they don't have any "remorse." Then in the next breath when Grace asked Hollers whether Misty was involved, Hollers responded by crying and said no. Hollers described how Misty loved children.

So which is it? Was she involved? Was she not involved? Does she love children or does she not have any remorse?

This is the same woman, Misty Croslin who went on the "Today Show" and accused someone in Haleigh's other side of the family, of abducting her. Croslin says it was the other side of the family, then it was cousin Joe. Who next? An alien from mars?

While everyone has worked themself up into a frenzy over Joe Overstreet, why not ask why Misty Croslin and Tommy Croslin are just now coming out with this information. It has been a year since Haleigh vanished. They have been in jail for 4 months. If they wanted to get out of jail, why didn't they spill the beans in January when they were first arrested? They all have lawyers, they were all advised who ever talks first gets the deal.

My theory is that when there is more than one person involved in a crime, that the people involved do not want to point at each other, but they want to point at someone who is not involved, to get the attention off of themselves.

Instead of looking at who Tommy and Misty are pointing the finger at, look at who they are not pointing the finger at: Ronald Cummings, the father of Haleigh Cummings who was jailed right along with them for trafficking drugs.

I keep going back to the night Haleigh vanished and the 911 call:

Misty calls Haleigh "our daughter" in the 911 call. Haleigh was not Misty's daughter. Misty had only known Haleigh for 4 months. Was someone telling Misty what to say on the 911 call? Was Ronald directing her to say "our daughter."

Ronald Cummings takes over the 911 call, automatically telling the 911 operator that someone kidnapped his daughter, making a threat to kill them, making a point to say he was "at work." He then proceeds to hang up the phone.

Here are my questions:

1: Why is Misty making the phone call, a 17-year-old girl who is not even related to Haleigh? Why not the child's adult father?

2: Why verbally scream "I was at work!" It seems like he was wanting to make a point that he was at work, instead of the fact that his child is missing.

3: Why assume that the child was abducted? That is every parents worst nightmare. They put that thought in the back of their minds.

4: Why hang up the phone? Most people want to give law enforcement all the information they can, to help locate their daughter.

5: Ronald says he had better people to talk. Who would that be? Who is more important to talk to than the police?

Ronald also makes a point early on in the investigation of telling the media that both he and Misty passed their polygraphs with "flying colors." Their law enforcement polygraph results have never been released, but we know that Misty has failed tons of polygraphs. So if he is going to declare Misty passed, then we should also put into question if he was really telling the truth.

Here is an interview that both Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin gave Greta Van Susteren on the Fox News Channel:

While Misty is talking and giving her version of events, Ronald has his face turned. He is looking straight at her, as if to remind her to "stick to the script."

At one point Ronald covers up his microphone and tells Misty to look into the camera. But Ronald wasn't looking into the camera... Ronald was wanting to make sure that Misty was coming off as believable because Misty was the one who was there that night. He was "at work." ::rolls eyes::

Ronald also corrects Misty in the interview. When Misty said Haleigh and Junior were sleeping 4 inches away from her. Ronald jumps in and says "they were sleeping four feet away." There is a huge different between 4 feet and four inches! Also, how would Ronald know if he was at work that night?

In a later interview he gave HLN's Nancy Grace, he told Grace that Haleigh, Ron Jr, and Misty were all sleeping in the same bed:

GRACE: At 10:30, 11:00. At that time, was little Haleigh in the bed asleep with the brother?

CUMMINGS: Yes.

GRACE: And they all slept together in the same bed, correct?

CUMMINGS: Yes.

How did it go from 4 inches, to 4 feet, to all in the same bed? How would Ronald know if he was at work?

Ronald even married Misty, knowing that she couldn't get her story straight. He threw a big celebration with her where they ate cake, and spent time with family all the while his daughter was missing.

Does that scene jive with the 911 call where Ronald dramatically declares that he will kill whoever he abducted his child? If he was so worried, why did he marry Misty only a month after Haleigh vanished? What father of a missing child takes the time to marry someone, when his child has only been missing a month?

After the wedding Ronald Cummings, his new child bride and his family take off to New York for a little honey moon where they do an interview on the "Today Show." Ronald told the Today Show that he did not want the focus on his wedding, that he wanted it on Haleigh. I have a huge problem that load of crap coming from Ronald Cummings.

1: If you want the attention on Haleigh why marry Misty?

2: If you want the attention on Haleigh why fly to New York while she is missing?

3: Why did you give NBC permission to film the wedding? While the interview with Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin was airing, pictures flashed across the screen of Misty and Ron eating cake, exchanging wedding vows, and celebrating. A big "TODAY EXCLUSIVE" was shown at the top of the screen.

4: I want to know if Ronald was given any money for the "TODAY EXCLUSIVE." If so, where did that money go?

We know that Ronald took Misty out to eat, to the race tracks and took her out on the town all the while searchers were frantically searching for his daughter. We know that when it came time for Ronald to pay he would tell the waiter "Don't you know who I am."

Let's be clear: Ronald Cummings is a sick , evil psychopath who used his missing child as a way to eat free meals and make tons of money. After his child went missing he got married and celebrated with his teen bride. All the while his childs body could have been decomposing in an alligator infested river.

Why marry her? To keep her quiet? To "keep her close" a quote many people attributed to him.

Ronald acted as if Haleigh was dead, and he acted like he wanted to get on with his life, take a listen to this interview where Ronald finds time to get a tattoo while his child is missing:

Ronald told the interview that he was tired of the media and that he "couldn't do what he wanted to do." What do you need to do? What is more important than finding your daughter, you idiotic dirt bag?

He complains about the camera in his face. MOST FAMILY MEMBERS OF MURDERED/MISSING CHILDREN would die for the media attention, not complain.

Ronald also bragged inside the tattoo shop about the money he was making.

How much more clear does it have to get? Ronald cared more about Misty, money, and "doing what he wanted to do." Than he did his missing child.

Also instead of searching for his daughter, contining to try to keep her name out there like the parents of ther missing/murdered children such as Marc Klaas, Beth Holloway, and Mark Lunsford. Ronald Cummings decided to hook back up with Misty, and traffick drugs with her. I hate to even compare Marc Klaas, Beth Holloway and Mark Lunsford to a dirt bag, drug dealer like Ronald Cummings. They have been amazing advocates for their children, unlike Ronald Cummings.

While in jail on drug charges we learn that Ronald makes a friend. A woman by the name of Alecia Dunbar (hat tip to the posters on the Scared Monkeys forum especially BeatnicHippie who outted Alecia Dunbar.) Dunbar also has a weird fascination with Joran Vandersloot in the Natalee Holloway case.

 

The paper reads "I love you Joran."

Listen to Ronald and Alecia's calls here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCc2bnHFaNA and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i6B72hrois&feature=related *Thanks to Art Harris for the videos.

Are these the actions of someone who is searching for his daughter? I also don't buy the load of bull crap coming from Ronald's mother. Does she seriously think anyone with a brain thinks he was dealing drugs to get Misty thrown in jail? He was dealing drugs because he is a drug dealing thug.

Take a look at SOME of his rap sheet:

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES (OTHER THAN COCAINE, HEROIN, OPIUM, OR MARIJUANA) Gender M

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS METHAMPHETAMINE Gender M

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A COCAINE – POSSESSION Gender M

CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-10-23 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR – ASSAULT Gender M

Now we are learning that some people including Alecia Dunbar have been trying to persuade Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla to bail Ronald out of jail.

Even if you think Ronald is not involved, he left his child with a teenager who just got off a drug/sex/alcohol binge. That is not a responsible parent. Either way you slice it, Ronald is responsible for whatever happened to his daughter.

http://www.examiner.com/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m4d20-Dont-clear-Ronald-Cummings-just-yet

LOL~Alecia Dunbar is as nutty as Tim Holmseth

[Nut44x4]

Did Misty ever tell her grandmother (Flora Hollars) that she killed Haleigh?

No

[Heart]

Did Misty ever tell her grandmother (Flora Hollars) that she killed Haleigh?

If she did Holler has not told and MC has not been charged with HaLeigh's death.

[fatcatlurker]

www.writeintoaction.com

Press Release


Minneapolis FBI receives names of Putnam County Sheriff’s Officers alleged to operate sex ring

 
East Grand Forks, MN, April 20, 2010:  The Minneapolis FBI has received the full names of ranking officers at the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department, Palatka, FL, alleged to be operating a child prostitution ring in Putnam County, FL. The information was provided to federal authorities by a former Minnesota/North Dakota newspaper reporter, today. The information provided to authorities is based upon alleged statements of John Regan, Hastings, FL, in March, 2009. John Regan is the father of former HaLeigh Bug Center administrator, Jeremiah Regan. According to the information provided to the FBI, John Regan interfered with a police report regarding the possible sexual abuse of HaLeigh Cummings; he said that the case will never be solved by law enforcement in Putnam County. The high-profile names of the officers involved in the child prostitution are recognizable in daily news reports.

Press Release   

OMG!!  What next??

So do we know if John Regan is involved with the crackpot?  Could this info be valid?  What officers are named in it? 

I don't mean to add fuel to the fire, but the video of the Palatka / LE officer who gave us the information at the end of Haleigh's search on the side of the road.  The one where he divulged a lot of info and there was even an uncut version?  I have looked back, but have not found it yet.  That guy gave me the creeps.  Let me just say I was married to a cop (now divorced by the grace of God) who turned out to have been involved in similar activities.  I feel like my radar is now finely tuned to these people, and this guy made bells go off in my head!  I am certainly not accusing him of anything, but I do wonder if that specific officer was named in this document. 

Again, I am not accusing anyone of anything and hope I am wrong.   I just don't trust anyone anymore just because they are LE.  This case is so sickening as it is, it would be too much to bear if we were to believe this!

Is this the one faith?

Correction Putnam County!  Sorry! Don't know where that came from.

Watch this. Interesting, uncut Maj Bowling interview

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid42757796001?bctid=78372282001

Is this the guy that "creeps" people out?  Hasn't Bowling been w/us from the beginning also?  He seems normal to me but hey what do I know.

[islandmonkey]

Did Misty ever tell her grandmother (Flora Hollars) that she killed Haleigh?

No, Misty only pointed fingers at other...........BUT, someone did
Gumma Hollars that Misty killed her by hitting her in the head with a wood board, but when NG asked who she couldn't remember

[Heart]

Thanks, Heart. I don't usually read Levi's stuff anymore, because he is not objective in my mind and he often has incorrect info. (Like they have been in jail for 4 months.) They were arrested Jan.20 .. exactly 3 months ago to the date, Levi.

But I read through it because it was posted here.

I do believe (and this is a relatively new belief to me) that Ronald knew what had transpired that night before the 911 call was made. I am not sure, but don't think he was directly involved with her death though. But the cover up .. yes. Since, as Cindy Anthony says, "day one."

Cover up from day one, yes.

Brandi, I agree about Levi, but I'm an equal opportunity poster, lol!

As far as RC being involved in the disappearance, coverup, etc.,  imo, the fat lady has begun to warm up, and slowly but surely is making her way to the stage.

[Blonde]

Did Misty ever tell her grandmother (Flora Hollars) that she killed Haleigh?

No, Misty only pointed fingers at other...........BUT, someone did
Gumma Hollars that Misty killed her by hitting her in the head with a wood board, but when NG asked who she couldn't remember

I thought I heard something like that on NG but I just wasn't sure TY

[Rob]

I thought that was a pretty good post by Levi and he's asking great questions and has some good answers too.

I snipped this to make a point -

I want to know if Ronald was given any money for the "TODAY EXCLUSIVE." If so, where did that money go?

Unfortunately, we live in a cash for info era. Those that have followed Caylee's case know that and understand that ABC has a horde of ethics in journalism charges filed against them.

Fox has done it too. Greta and crew DID pay Joran for the Marriott interview. Sure, they all deny, but the faacts remain - cash for interview. It's repulsive, and needs to stop.

Grandma is hoping for some too.

[fatcatlurker]

Levi Page appears to be using his good writer today?!  Obviously he has a chick he occasionally gets to write his articles for him that can spell and complete sentences.  He uses pure speculation no less than the rest of the media hoes who have inserted themselves into this case.  JMO.

When the end comes and we have Justice for Haleigh it will be very interesting to see if any of these people told truths or lies and when.

And Honestly I shudder to think about all the little ones who get no media attention what so ever.  The pure trashiness of this story is the only reason it is still headline news.  We cannot believe that people such as these characters actually exist and feel even worse for the Haleigh Cummings of the world but 10's of thousands live this existence everyday.  ALL Sad but true.

[carpe noctem]

If I didn`t know better... I would say that it appears someone was treating that baby medically that had no business doing it... and overdosed her on something... and the
entire family is pulling an ANTHONY... and covering for one another... from the top
down. Yes, Teresa, Miss fright wiggie, and Grandma Sykes. EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!

It`s like a united front, and it just should not be.

[theboyzmom]

Let me tell you all a lil story if I might.

Last week my sister was involved in a car wreck. She's ok but the other person was killed. It happened in a construction zone and the police are doing a crime scene investigation. There is a good chance she may have some charges filed against her. And to be honest - she hit this person from behind and the other person's car went under a tractor trailer. I don't know all the details but it sounds like the other person did a lane shift to merge over and was hit from behind by my sister. The reason there could be some charges - you should always be in control of your vehicle and well, no matter what happened, someone lost their life.

The other person did not suffer. Thank God. It happened very fast.

My sister is sooooooo distraught over this (and rightfully so). She won't take any calls and is heart-broken over this. Today is her birthday and I called her to wish her a happy birthday and see how she was - she didn't answer. Maybe she'll call back later.

My sister did not know this person. It was a chance accident on a highway.

Have you ever seen that kind of genuine emotion from Misty for a lil girl that she lived with and was helping to raise? Has Misty ever said she was heart broken? Has she ever shed a genuine tear?

I am so sorry for your sister and the family of the person. You make a valid point - when was it that Misty actually felt sad for an innocent child - and not for herself?   

[Rob]

I think it will turn out to be Misty who caused her death (whether it be directly or indirectly) and I believe Tommy and Joe helped her dispose of the body.  I don't think Ron is involved.  Mine is not the popular view... I know but that's my story and I'm stickin to it.... unless we get a big bombshell that points otherwise!  LOL

I'm right there with you bananas

you have even money too!!

[Heart]

Sheriff: Haleigh most likely dead;
ITEMS FOUND IN WATER Divers end search of St. Johns;
LETTERS EMERGE Relatives say Misty Croslin sent them
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:1166996997&start=33

[Rob]

I'm listening to Ron and Alecia - I haven't heard this before. LOL

These two chuckleheads deserve each other 

[Rob]

I'm listening to Ron and Alecia - I haven't heard this before. LOL

These two chuckleheads deserve each other 

I'm wondering - can I get an account and play these for Misty? 

[Brandi]

I'm listening to Ron and Alecia - I haven't heard this before. LOL

These two chuckleheads deserve each other 

"chuckleheads"? You are being way too kind, Rob.

 

[Bud's Girl]

We are going to find out soon about the dam van!  All the investigators say it won't be long for an arrest, etc.
Mr. Brown solved this case, we will find out soon.  The deer blood I find curious. Little Haleigh will have justice.

I'm going with Misty as the killer - and Tommy or Timmy on body disposal.

---<Monkey odds - even money

Me too, Rob, if you allow me to throw in Joe with the possible disposal thugs.

I believe Misty has always been at the top of the list - how couldn't she be Brandi? I initially was fooled by her. 

I do admit I'm curious about ole cousin Joe, and I wonder how he flew so low under the radar for 14 months if he was involved somehow. I'm not sure he's involved, but that doesn't mean that he's not.

Rob, Misty has been implicating Joe from the very start .. I remember that in one of her first interviews, she said she thought her cousin from TN might be involved - but she wouldn't give his name.  Someone outed him shortly after that, but she put him out there from the very very start.

God's blessings on your sister.  I hope someone has been able to contact her & be with her.