Haleigh Marie Cummings #35 4/22/10 - 5/04/10

[Jerseygirl345]

UCN: 542010CF000143XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE   
Defense Atty: BEECHING, MARCELLA ANN 

Defendant
SYKES, HOPE A 
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (1/13/10) 

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A 

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE MORE THAN 14 GRAMS LESS 

2010-01-21 1 THAN 28 GRAMS 

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $150.000.00 

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (1/20/10) 

2010-01-22 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 

2010-01-22 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING 

2010-01-22 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND 

2010-01-22 4 $150,000.00 SECURED BOND SET 

2010-01-22 5 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2010-01-22 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2010-01-22 7 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF 

2010-01-22 7 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S 

2010-01-22 7 RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING") 

2010-01-22 8 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE 

2010-01-22 8 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING") 

2010-01-22 8 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL 

2010-01-22 9 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED 

2010-02-03 10 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE (14G-28G) 

2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52 

2010-02-03 12 ORDER OF TRANSFER TO DIVISION 52 

2010-02-03 13 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL 

2010-02-08 14 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT 

2010-02-08 14 COUNSEL 

2010-02-09 15 ORDER TO CONSOLIDATE 

2010-02-10 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-18-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-02-18 17 ARR MIN:DEFT PRES,ADJ INS P D APPT (MARCELLA BEECHING) 

2010-02-18 17 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 03/31/2010 

2010-02-18 17 CONFLICT COUNSEL APPOINTED MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-02-18 18 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS 

2010-02-18 19 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER 

2010-02-18 20 ORDER SETTING CASE FOR PRETRIAL 03/31/2010 

2010-02-18 21 APPOINTING REGIONAL CONFLCIT COUNSEL 

2010-02-19 21 ORDER ALLOWING PUBLIC DEFENDER TO WITHDRAW AND 

2010-02-22 22 MOTION TO WITHDRAW 

2010-03-01 23 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT 

2010-03-01 24 WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-01 25 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE 

2010-03-01 26 ORDER ALLOWING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND 

2010-03-01 26 CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL WITHDRAW 

2010-03-01 27 CERTIFICATION OF CONFLICT BY OFFICE OF REGIONAL 

2010-03-01 27 CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CONFLICT, 5TH DISTRICT 

2010-03-02 28 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT 

2010-03-02 28 ENTRY OF PLEA, AND REQUEST FOR JURY TRIL 

2010-03-02 29 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY: MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-03-02 30 RECIPROCAL WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-02 31 DISCOVERY DEMAND 

2010-03-03 32 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (03-31-2010) 

2010-03-11 33 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST 

2010-03-31 34 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-03-31 34 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C TO THE OFFENSE OF 

2010-03-31 34 TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE 14-28 GRAMS 

2010-03-31 34 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 30 YRS DOC &/OR $15,000 FINE 

2010-03-31 34 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING SET 04/27/2010 

2010-04-07 35 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04-27-2010) IN JAIL 

2010-04-07 36 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (04-27-2010) 

2010-04-19 37 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: 

2010-04-19 37 RENEA WHITMORE 

2010-04-21 38 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED: 

2010-04-21 38 RONALD CUMMINGS 

2010-04-27 39 SCORESHEET FILED 

2010-04-27 40 SENTENCING MINUTES:DEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING 

2010-04-27 40 ADJUDGED GUILTY OF TRAFFICKING IN HYDROCODONE 

2010-04-27 40 14-28 GRAMS 

2010-04-27 40 15 YEARS DOC WITH 97 DAYS CREDIT - MINIMUM MANDATORY 

2010-04-27 40 $395 COURT COSTS 

2010-04-27 40 $50 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE 

2010-04-27 40 $100 PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEY FEE 

2010-04-27 40 $100 COST OF PROSECUTION 

2010-04-27 40 $15 TO THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE TRUST FUND 

2010-04-27 40 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN 

2010-04-27 40 $250,000 FINE (MINIMUM MANDATORY) 

2010-04-27 41 SENTENCING WITNESS TESTIFIED 

2010-04-27 42 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT 

2010-04-29 43 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE 

2010-04-29 44 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE 

2010-04-29 44 RECORDED INST 

2010-04-30 45 COMMITMENT ISSUED 

2010-04-30 46 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE 

2010-04-30 47 MOTION FOR REHEARING 

[no rose colored glasses]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

[Jerseygirl345]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

[no rose colored glasses]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

Wonder if this will be granted?

[Jerseygirl345]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

Wonder if this will be granted?

I was reading up on it and the motion can be denied..

[Jerseygirl345]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

Wonder if this will be granted?

I was reading up on it and the motion can be denied..

DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA
FOURTH DISTRICT
January Term 2006
ANDRE KELLY,
Appellant,
v.
STATE OF FLORIDA,
Appellee.
No. 4D05-274
[ March 15, 2006 ]

HAZOURI, J.
Andre Kelly was charged with two counts of robbery with a firearm and two counts of kidnapping while armed with a weapon. On May 3, 2004, Kelly entered a guilty plea as to all four charges. His plea was open to the court. The trial court conducted a thorough plea colloquy with Kelly prior to accepting his plea. At the end of the plea hearing, the trial court deferred sentencing Kelly and ordered a presentence investigation to be completed.


Approximately four months later, on September 9, 2004, another hearing was held, at which time Kelly told the trial court that he wanted to withdraw his plea because he felt he was coerced into pleading guilty when, in fact, he wanted to have a jury trial. Kelly maintained that he was coerced by his counsel and that he wanted to discharge him. The following colloquy occurred:

THE COURT: Mr. Kelly, for the record, the Court accepted your open plea on May 3rd, year 2004, and Mr. Melnick represents you privately retained by you, you did testify in the trial of your codefendants this week, and the only matter that was left in this case and that is left in this case at this point is the sentencing in your case.
Question is, you have told your attorney that you want to go ahead and withdraw your plea at this time?

http://www.4dca.org/Mar%202006/03-15-06/4D05-274.op.pdf

[Jerseygirl345]

IMO It looks as though Hope might say she wanted to plea not guilty and wanted it to go to trial..

[Jerseygirl345]

IMO It looks as though Hope might say she wanted to plea not guilty and wanted it to go to trial..

Also I might add Hope might say she was coerced into pleading guilty and now be getting a new attorney..

[no rose colored glasses]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

Wonder if this will be granted?

I was reading up on it and the motion can be denied..

Thank-you 

[Magnolia]

Where was Tommy Croslin working at the time of Haleigh's disappearance?

I heard him say in one of the tapes that he didn't go to work that day and
Lindsy said that he cooked dinner and kept the children.
 

Magnolia, here is a partial transcript of that tape, will finish the rest of it sometime this evening.

 

http://www.bloggernews.net/124452

TC: (laugh) I want to do that chit still.  Still want to do it, so you need to make arraignments for that .

LC:  Well lets just see what happens.  Cause you know if we get done with the polygraph or whatever, and then you get a bond you'll still get out. But he said that you may have to go on a brace/anklet thing or whatever.

TC: I don't care, it don't matter. Whadda you talk to the dude after you talked to me earlier?

LC: Yeah short, shortly. I just told him what you had said and that was it, he was busy.

TC:  Well, I don't want to have to wait to no 31st. If he can do it sooner get it done. I don't care.

LC:  ok, (he he)

TC: Hes the one thats gonna be paying for it anyway.

LC:  Yeah , they just told me to be careful

TC:  Yeah I know, I ain't worried about it. He needs to do the chit Hes the one gonna pay for it. If I don't do what he wants hes not gonna pay for it anyway .

LC: Yeah, but if you already have a polygraph done and you've passed it, it will be pretty much no strings attached.

TC: Its still going to be anyway.

LC: I hope so. Anyways hi, how are you?

TC: (laughter) Why, it that the only...

LC:  inaudible (something about Misty)

TC:  The bonds gonna be high anyway. Whatever it is ,its gonna be high bond.

LC: Yeah, unless they reinstate your old one.

TC: Yeah

LC:  Thats why we want to try to get the polygraph done before then because the we can you know  .

TC: Yeah, thats fine, I'm not doing it unless I'm getting out of here, sorry  Thats a way for me to get out of jail, so thats what I'm gonna do.  He comes on Wednesday I'm not gonna do it.

LC:  Hush or I'm just gonna go home.

TC:  Well, I'm just telling you the truth.

LC:  You need to get it done anyway no matter however you get it done, so.

TC:  Whatever

LC:  What you need, whatever comes first. (sighs) don't make me scream.

TC:  I know if, if it, never mind, never mind.

LC:  Just whatever comes first

TC:  If I don't do what he ask me to do, hes not gonna fu_ _ing pay my bond.

LC:  Hes not asking you, hes just giving you, hes just ask...

TC:  Thats what he wants, not doing chit for no reason

LC:  Ok, well it doesn't, just hush, making me crazy

TC:  Yeah I know. I'm just tired of being in here. Thats my way out of here, I'm takeing it.

LC:  I know.  Austin gonna see you ah with your dad.

TC:  Its alright

LC:  Hes talking to Misty right now.

TC:  And I told Stephen Brown that chit too. Told him what I wanted to do.

LC:  Yeah he told me.

TC:  Thats what I want done. The reason this guy is wanting to pay my bond is because hes wanting his damn publicity and if he don't get it he ain't gonna pay it.

LC:  Yes he will, yes he will

TC:  So if I  gotta bond it don't matter.

LC:  Yes he will, yes he will,  because when you pass your polygraph, and they say ok Lenn (giggle) ard (giggle) I didn't mean to say his name. But ah they'll give the polygraph to him and say  look he passed and get him out of jail and you can say hey he passed the polygraph and thats why I got him out of jail.

TC:  Well he ain't gonna wanna do that. I'm pretty sure thats not what he wants. He wants to go on tv with me.

LC:  I don't care Tom, I'm just telling you. Do we have to argue about this, because this is stupid to argue about.

TC:  I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you thats what needs to be done. Hes not going to bail me out when I get a bond.

LC:  Well do you want to loose your lawyer.

TC:  No, but I

LC:  Well thats whats gonna happen, because nobody has offered to get you another lawyer.
So quit being greedy, and get what you can get.

TC:  It ain't nothing to do with that. Its just, if I get a bond it ain't gone help me none, if I ain't got no one to pay it, because it is gonna be too high for me to pay.

LC:  Well I'll ask him if that happens will he still do it.

TC:  I'll might have to call him myself and tell him whats up.

LC:  Well then call and talk to him. Ask him if your lawyers drops you and for doing this will he help you or.

TC: I don't see why he would. What the hell is he gonna

LC:  What I'm saying is he would rather hear it from you than hear it from me.

TC:  You just call him and tell him what I said ok.

LC:  Why don't you call him?

TC:  Because I'm not, you do it.

LC:  ok, k
Now Tommy sounds as if he has gotten a little upset with Lindsy here, as if he is ready to go home and commit some domestic battery. Lindsy is getting to independent for him, lol!

TC:  It really doesn't matter to me. I  wanna come home.

LC:  Yeah we can't loose your lawyer either Tom.

TC:  I know that. It happens it happens, I just want to come home.

LC:  You know we're gonna need a lawyer for these drug charges. this drug charge.

TC:  Yeah I know Lindsy, but I don't want to talk about that though. It comes when it comes

LC:  Alright,I love you , you look grouchy to me today.

TC:  (Tommy laughs) I hate this place. I wanna come home.

LC:   I know. I want you home. With your ankle bracelet or whatever they give you.

TC:  Yeah me too It ain't gonna do no good If I don't have someone to pay that bond, because it is gonna be high.

LC:  I know.

TC:  So I got keep this guy happy. Do whats he wants me to do.

LC:  I know.

TC:  Cause I ain't got nothing to hide, so it doesn't matter.

LC:  I know, I know.

LC:  Misty tried to say that the night that HaLeigh keep missing, you were high.

TC:  Misty is out of her fu_ _ing, yeah I was high on weed.

LC:  I know yeah I know, but I'm saying that you were not high on anything else. Because I was like Tommy cooked dinner dinner.

TC:  I don't want to hear any more about that chit.  Misty is gonna lie on her grave all she is gonna do. Shes going to bury herself so deep she not gonna climb out.  I don't wanna even talk about that.

LC:  I know. But I'm just saying.

TC:  Sick of her and her lies.

LC:  I know, me too.

TC: Just because I was high on something,  If I was high on pills I don't forget what I do, I know what the fu_ _ what I do.

LC:  Well not even that, but you would not have had the house clean, the dinner cooked and sat up with me and watched tv until we went to bed.  (sounds as if LC is posing a question to TC)

TC:  No or Oh or grunt or something

LC:   You know what I mean, you would have been passed out. When I come home you would have been like good, now I can pass out

TC:  I didn't  have no pills that day. Thats why I didn't go to work.  Thats why I was laying around all fu_ _ing day.

LC:  I know.

TC:  He said he was gonna come and see me again tomorrow.

LC:  Ok, thats good.  Its nice to get out though huh?

TC:  Out yeah, its not like its going out anywhere. Going down the hallway into a room.

LC:  Yeah but isn't it nice to talk with somebody like face to face.

TC:  Yeah.  I love ya!

LC:  I love you too, baby! You need to shave

TC: Yeah, I'm not gonna.

LC: Your not?

Tommy covers the phone while talking to some other inmate.

LC:  What?

TC:  Nothing.

LC:  I heard him say put your hand over the phone.

TC:  (Giggles), I love ya!

LC:  I hate that. Don't talk to other people when you talking to me unless you are gonna tell me what they are say.

TC:  Oh chit. Just make that chit happen for me,  ok, thats what I need for you to do.

LC:  Don't talk to me like that.

TC:  I love ya. I ain't trying to be mean, thats what I want done. Thats the only way I'm gonna get bailed out of jail, if I do that chit for um. I mean I ain't got nothing to hide so why not do it, why not go there and do the chit.

LC:  Oh I know

TC:  It doesn't matter what anybody says. Thats what I want to do. I ain't got nothing to hide so come on with it.

LC:  Yeah I know. I know baby.  It doesn't happen over night, you know.

TC:  I know.  If it comes down to me loosing that person, I can find another person.

LC:  I know, I know, I love you.

TC:  Love you too babe. What you been doing today?

LC:   Nothing really.  Went sent those letters out, went to Walmarts and got your pictures. then I met Ashley at Bealls cause she was going to buy me a shirt. We couldn't find anything.

TC:  For what?

LC:  Just cause she got back child support, and so she had some money and she was off work early and she said Kate you want to meet me Bealls, I said yes.

That was a lot of work, Heart.  Thanks.

It seems that I remember that Tommy and the other Croslins were working for an Electrical Contractor
at the time of Hank's accident. 
I wondered why Tommy couldn't go to work if he didn't have any pills.

[no rose colored glasses]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

[Heart]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

In one of the tapes, Hank and Tommy talked about working at some company, name started with an S, Superior, Seminole or something like that.  Remember Hank said that that was where Tommy started taking the pills with some co-worker, Chico or something like that.

[Magnolia]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

Hank Sr did have a dry wall business.  I think it was Chelsea that said they were all working for
an Electrical Contractor when Hank was in the accident and Hank Sr didn't get rehired because
of his injuries.

The drywall company had initials for a name, but I can't remember what they were.

[mizjay]

Thanks to Heart and Carpe and any others who transcribe for us.

A couple pages back, one of the TC/LC visits, it blows me away that he acted like her purpose in life now was to visit him. Call him. Make sure others call him, visit him. I noticed the same coming from the earlier ones of Misty.  For them being such total losers, they still operate on the idea that everything needs to revolve around them. Coming from these families with long rap sheets and lifelong scrapes with the law, how in the he&& do they end with so much ego?   

[no rose colored glasses]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

Hank Sr did have a dry wall business.  I think it was Chelsea that said they were all working for
an Electrical Contractor when Hank was in the accident and Hank Sr didn't get rehired because
of his injuries.

The drywall company had initials for a name, but I can't remember what they were.

Thank-you, I thought that I imagined that dry wall business    And then they worked for an Electrical Contractor, thanks.

[Heart]

Jersey what does that mean, a motion for rehearing?

That's what is looks like a motion was put in for a rehearing...

Wonder if this will be granted?

I was reading up on it and the motion can be denied..

Thank-you 

XVII. POSTCONVICTION RELIEF

RULE 3.850. MOTION TO VACATE, SET ASIDE, OR CORRECT SENTENCE

(a) Grounds for Motion. The following grounds may be claims for relief from judgment or release from custody

by a person who has been tried and found guilty or has entered a plea of guilty or nolo contendere before a court

established by the laws of Florida:

(1) The judgment was entered or sentence was imposed in violation of the Constitution or laws of the United

States or the State of Florida.

(2) The court did not have jurisdiction to enter the judgment.

(3) The court did not have jurisdiction to impose the sentence.

(4) The sentence exceeded the maximum authorized by law.

(5) The plea was involuntary.

(6) The judgment or sentence is otherwise subject to collateral attack.

(g) Appeal; Rehearing; Service on Movant. An appeal may be taken to the appropriate appellate court from the

order entered on the motion as from a final judgment on application for writ of habeas corpus. All orders denying

motions for postconviction relief shall include a statement that the movant has the right to appeal within 30 days of

the rendition of the order. A petitioner may seek a belated appeal upon the allegation that the petitioner timely

requested counsel to appeal the order denying petitioner’s motion for postconviction relief and counsel, through

neglect, failed to do so. The movant may file a motion for rehearing of any order denying a motion under this rule

within 15 days of the date of service of the order. The clerk of the court shall promptly serve on the movant a copy

of any order denying a motion for postconviction relief or denying a motion for rehearing noting thereon the date of

service by an appropriate certificate of service.

more...

http://www.fort-pierce-criminal-lawyer.com/practice/post_conviction.htm

[no rose colored glasses]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

In one of the tapes, Hank and Tommy talked about working at some company, name started with an S, Superior, Seminole or something like that.  Remember Hank said that that was where Tommy started taking the pills with some co-worker, Chico or something like that.

Thanks, I'm just guessing speed, because of the comment about not going to work because he had no pills, just makes sense, but I really don't know.

[no rose colored glasses]

Thanks to Heart and Carpe and any others who transcribe for us.

A couple pages back, one of the TC/LC visits, it blows me away that he acted like her purpose in life now was to visit him. Call him. Make sure others call him, visit him. I noticed the same coming from the earlier ones of Misty.  For them being such total losers, they still operate on the idea that everything needs to revolve around them. Coming from these families with long rap sheets and lifelong scrapes with the law, how in the he&& do they end with so much ego?   

I was reading one of the tapes that someone transcribed, and Lindsy was saying she was happy to have friends now, it was so embarrassing for friends to come over and see Tommy high all the time. Of all of them, Lindsy seems to be the one with some common sense.

[mizjay]

Thanks to Heart and Carpe and any others who transcribe for us.

A couple pages back, one of the TC/LC visits, it blows me away that he acted like her purpose in life now was to visit him. Call him. Make sure others call him, visit him. I noticed the same coming from the earlier ones of Misty.  For them being such total losers, they still operate on the idea that everything needs to revolve around them. Coming from these families with long rap sheets and lifelong scrapes with the law, how in the he&& do they end with so much ego?   

I was reading one of the tapes that someone transcribed, and Lindsy was saying she was happy to have friends now, it was so embarrassing for friends to come over and see Tommy high all the time. Of all of them, Lindsy seems to be the one with some common sense.

I hope she uses this opportunity to start over. He's pretty bullyish on the phone,  I can only imagine what's it's like when he's home. Good for her that friends can come over now and not have to be around him and his high.. Most of all I wish she'd quit taking those kids to visit him in jail. It's like witnessing the start of the next Satsuma jail generation. daddy's in jail, but he aint dun it, draw pictures so I can hang em in my cell (instead of the fridge), bond money talk, my lousy lawyer talk...on and on. It all becomes just another normal day for these poor kids.

[Monkey with Class]

Just a guess, but Tommy probably needed speed to work. Am I remembering this wrong, didn't Hank Sr have a drywall business, or was it an electrical business. For some reason I thought he had a business.

In one of the tapes, Hank and Tommy talked about working at some company, name started with an S, Superior, Seminole or something like that.  Remember Hank said that that was where Tommy started taking the pills with some co-worker, Chico or something like that.

Thanks, I'm just guessing speed, because of the comment about not going to work because he had no pills, just makes sense, but I really don't know.

Hi No Rose,

I think he was referring to pain pills.   When one is addicted to these pills,  they can not function without them.   Speaking from experience.   After having 7 consecutive root canals, I was addicted.(9 month process of going to dentist every 2 weeks)   When i stopped taking them, part of the withdrawls is having no energy to get out of bed.   If I were to take one every 4-6 hours, i could have lived my life without anyone knowing I was addicted to them.  The withdrawls are severe.  This passes in time, however, very serious.  Thanks goodness I wanted to get off them or I would still be taking them.   No addict will get off them without wanting the help to get off them.  I have witnessed no one that got off of them solo on their own.   The program I went through involved your average everyday citizens. (lawyers, CPA's, business owners, that had the same issue with me, dental work and addiction etc)  It is a growing epidemic across the U.S. that needs attention.  These drug companies are making big bucks along with the Doc's prescribing them to people Doc shopping.